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09-15-2008, 04:45 PM
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#26 | | RS Peace Officer
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I spent 8 years in Newfoundland....THAT was an "overseas posting"!!!!!They had their own money, government and passports until the Confederation vote.
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09-17-2008, 03:58 PM
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#27 | | RS Peace Officer
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Gee,
Most of the replies have covered al the topics..... As you have noticed it is kind of a personal choice. We all mostly do the same job, but with the RCMP you have the opportunity to move to different areas of a Province or to a different one. There are some great things to say about working in small towns in remote areas of the Country. I spent my first 9 years working in, a 5 and a 4 person detachment. One was located at the end of a road (well most of the year I would call it more of a trail, 4x4 would get stuck on it in the spring) with our closest neighbouring town about 2.5 hrs away or about 180 km. My experiences there were all positive and I believe they helped me develope the police personality I have. I am usually a little less abrasive and tend to have more patients with people than a number of members that learned policing in large municipalities. This came from neccesity in a small town as you have no back up and often relied on civilians for assistance. So you tended to have to be a little nicer overall. You tend to develop good verbal skills as it is much easier to talk a person into doing what you want than trying to force them and the 20 other people to do it....
If you love nature that is the place to go..... lots of outdoor activities, most have skidoos, boats and some have seadoos as well. You get oportunities to flay in all sorts of aircraft etc.... But it can get a little lonley and there is not much to do. I enjoyed my time but asked to come to the Lowermainland.
I enjoy it here and plan to remain for some time. I work in Richmond which is a great place to not only live but the office and work environment are great.
Good luck with whatever you choose....
We do get one of the nicest formal uniforms and it is internationally recognized.....
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09-23-2008, 08:09 PM
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#28 | | Retired Traffic Cop
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Interesting link to RCMP being rated as one of Canada's top 100 employers
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09-24-2008, 07:19 PM
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#29 | | Wunder? Wonder?? Wander???
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hey quick question to the RCMP members here.
what happens when you have a death in the family (immediate family) while youre at depot? do you basically stop your training (to go home for the funeral and grieve/down time) and re-start the 6 month shabang, or get put into another troop, or cover the things you missed on the weekends?
hopefully it doesnt come to this, but (realistically) my grandmother is getting weaker every month and i hope it doesnt happen while im there 
Thanks.
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09-24-2008, 07:38 PM
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#30 | | I bringith the lowerballerith
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Depending on when it happens (how far into training you are), you could be backtrooped, or you might have to start over from the beginning. My parents told me that if anything happened to either of them, they would want me to continue on with training. Not sure if I would or not, but thankfully, they're still going strong. I had a troop mate leave because of his father's health though, right near the beginning of training, so it does happen.
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09-25-2008, 03:16 PM
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Not sure but seems sho bc has some experience with this. I would think they will try their best to accomodate you but you may be held back to make up missed training.
BTW seems like we have a bunch of regulars here that are in training or going to training do we need to start a new forum just for them.....
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09-26-2008, 07:15 AM
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#32 | | I bringith the lowerballerith
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Originally Posted by PACER  I would think they will try their best to accomodate you but you may be held back to make up missed training. | Yep, if you haven't made any bad impressions and have a relatively strong file (if it looks like you're able to come back and continue to do well), they "leave the door open" to your return. Like I mentioned before, the likelihood of being backtrooped is more likely the case than not, but where you are/were in training before will dictate how far back you go.
There was a guy in my troop that went home in the wee hours of a Friday morning, and returned on the Sunday night and was able to continue on like normal, so thats one thing to look at doing, too.
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10-09-2008, 10:11 PM
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#33 | | Wunder? Wonder?? Wander???
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^ well.... sadly i no longer have to worry about it :'(
ironically i was telling my background investigator about this, and no more then 30 min later my mom calls
anyhoo.................
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10-09-2008, 11:57 PM
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#34 | | What hasn't Killed me, has made me more tolerant of RS!
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Originally Posted by skidmark Interesting link to RCMP being rated as one of Canada's top 100 employers
Click Me! | thats true in fact I was considering a career in the RCMP instead I leaned towards St.Johns more lol
btw skidmark I have a question I heard from a sheriff that sometime in the near future hiways are gonna be under their jurisdiction... true ?
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10-10-2008, 01:33 AM
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#35 | | The "You'd Know" Moderator
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Originally Posted by fukkeneh240 ^ well.... sadly i no longer have to worry about it :'(
ironically i was telling my background investigator about this, and no more then 30 min later my mom calls
anyhoo................. | Sorry for your loss...
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10-10-2008, 08:33 AM
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#36 | | Retired Traffic Cop
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Originally Posted by frito_lay btw skidmark I have a question I heard from a sheriff that sometime in the near future hiways are gonna be under their jurisdiction... true ? | I haven't heard this one yet, but there is nothing to stop our provincial government from changing/extending the CVSE program or straight traffic enforcement using the Sheriff's Services.
In some ways it would be an improvement if traffic enforcement went provincial and the resources were dedicated to only that job.
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11-04-2008, 08:38 PM
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i was looking at the RCMP site, and it mentioned bench mark performance for push ups, sit ups, chin ups, 1.5 mile run and 3 mile run. Do they actually test you on that stuff.
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11-04-2008, 09:56 PM
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#38 | | RS Peace Officer
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Originally Posted by TRD604 i was looking at the RCMP site, and it mentioned bench mark performance for push ups, sit ups, chin ups, 1.5 mile run and 3 mile run. Do they actually test you on that stuff. | Yes they do.
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11-04-2008, 10:14 PM
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#39 | | My AFC gave me an ABS CEL code of LOL while at WOT!
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Originally Posted by Five-Oh Yes they do. | i saw on the site that you need to run 1.5mile in the 10:45 benchmark. what if you can everything else on the list and not quite get 10:45?
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11-04-2008, 11:57 PM
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#40 | | 14 dolla balla aint got nothing on me!
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They record it but they dont generally send u home for getting under the benchmark.
The only physical thing you can get sent home for is failing the PARE... but really if you cant do the PARE in under 4:45 you really really should not be a cop.
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11-05-2008, 12:43 AM
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#41 | | Captain Happy Bubble is my Homeboy
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Do they hire fobs ? lol... is it all Caucasians or do Asians have a say in RCMP/VPD
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11-05-2008, 05:05 AM
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#42 | | I bringith the lowerballerith
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The 1.5 mile benchmark isn't really all that hard to achieve. Its basically a very fast run and is over before you know it. (this is coming from someone who didn't used to run very much)
With the RCMP, it is quite culturally diverse (as is the VPD I'm sure, given the ethnic make-up of the Lower Mainland). And just because you're asian in the RCMP doesn't mean you're coming to the Lower Mainland/Richmond. I know a guy sent to small-town-nowhere Saskatchewan. 
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11-05-2008, 06:33 AM
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#43 | | Wunder? Wonder?? Wander???
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Originally Posted by PR0WL They record it but they dont generally send u home for getting under the benchmark.
The only physical thing you can get sent home for is failing the PARE... but really if you cant do the PARE in under 4:45 you really really should not be a cop. | i did the PARE in 3:32 but my 1.5 mile is terrible.. like 11:30 or so.. working on that though. (but by vpd standards, 11:30 is a pass.. under 12 min) 
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11-05-2008, 01:20 PM
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#44 | | RS Peace Officer
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My last PARE @ 3.45 a year ago, did Cooper's test in 9.25 at 41 years of age. It ain't difficult if an old fart like me can get those times.
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11-05-2008, 01:37 PM
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#45 | | I bringith the lowerballerith
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Impressive cooper's time.  It puts my last cooper's time to shame given my gangly legs and "younger person's advantage".
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11-05-2008, 08:35 PM
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#46 | | Wunder? Wonder?? Wander???
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what the hell.. so i did a 1.5 mile today and took me exactly 13 min?!?!? i have to admit i haven't run in a month due to family issues.. but not running for a friggin month added a min and a half to my over all time...??!!?? starting next friday, i have to start running again. this is friggin sad.. LOL.
sigh... 
end of vent/rant.
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11-05-2008, 10:02 PM
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#47 | | I bringith the lowerballerith
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You'd be surprised how much faster you are when you run in a group and in a test setting. My 5 mile run was WAY at the end because I was battling pretty bad shin splints at the time of the 5 mile test. I got the fastest guy in my troop to go out with me to push me for a fast time and, fighting the prairie winds 3/4 of the run, I pulled off a 38 minute 5 mile feeling like I could have gone for another mile or two at the same pace. Never would have been able to run that on my own. When you're testing yourself, figure out how fast you want to run it, and then figure out the time for .5 miles, 1 mile, and then find landmarks to help guide your pacing.
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11-05-2008, 10:09 PM
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#48 | | RS Peace Officer
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My last PARE was 3:02 and my last Cooper's test was 8:47, both of which were in Depot (2.5 years ago). I have kept running and working out since then but I think my times would be a bit higher now.
The PARE isn't hard to do in under four minutes and like PROWL said, if you can't do it in under 4 minutes you should not be applying to a police force. PARE is the only test they are going to send you home if you don't make the bench mark. The fitness facilitators are mainly focused on effort and improvement on everything else. If they know you are working your hardest to reach the bench marks they will do everything they can to help you out in making those goals and any other fitness goals you have. If they think that you are not giving it your all, you would probably be a happier person if they just sent you home instead.
I think a common misconception amongst a lot of applicants is that they will go and get in shape while at Depot. You should be in the best shape of your life when you are going tp Depot because if you go there out of shape you are going to be tired and run down all day, which will affect all the other things you do there. You will also be worried about failing out on the PARE, which should be the last of your concerns.
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11-05-2008, 10:36 PM
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#49 | | I bringith the lowerballerith
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Originally Posted by Five-Oh The PARE isn't hard to do in under four minutes and like PROWL said, if you can't do it in under 4 minutes you should not be applying to a police force. PARE is the only test they are going to send you home if you don't make the bench mark. The fitness facilitators are mainly focused on effort and improvement on everything else. If they know you are working your hardest to reach the bench marks they will do everything they can to help you out in making those goals and any other fitness goals you have. If they think that you are not giving it your all, you would probably be a happier person if they just sent you home instead.
I think a common misconception amongst a lot of applicants is that they will go and get in shape while at Depot. You should be in the best shape of your life when you are going tp Depot because if you go there out of shape you are going to be tired and run down all day, which will affect all the other things you do there. You will also be worried about failing out on the PARE, which should be the last of your concerns. | ^^^ what's been said here is super true. I saw many people who looked like they literally were rolled off the plane. I'm not sure how they made it past the initial PARE in the recruiting process, but for the most part, few stayed past the first week.
In case it isn't anywhere on the website, part of the physical component at Depot is completing a minimum of 5 fitness competencies per week for the duration of training. 2 resistance/weight work outs, and 3 cardio work outs. That is generally on top of all the in-class exercise done throughout the week.
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11-05-2008, 11:12 PM
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#50 | | Captain Happy Bubble is my Homeboy
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I did my 1st pare in 3:58, I know quite high, but that was after being pretty sick with strep throat. I really though I wouldnt recover in time to pass.
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