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Old 11-04-2008, 11:04 AM   #26
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wow I use my fog lights a fair mount on my car when its raining out or dark(late night) out for better visibility and i have never been pulled over for it and i drive by cops all the time
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Old 11-04-2008, 12:15 PM   #27
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Many of you seem to be confused at the difference between DRIVING lights and FOG lights. They are not one and the same.

I remember Skidmark saying something before about having an "F" on the lens for fog lights... I'll have to just use that search function and find the posts for you folks..
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Old 11-04-2008, 12:42 PM   #28
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I have a question, I have a 93 240sx and there are 2 yellow fog lights but they are too weak to project anything, are those really driving lights? because there are 2 DRL right below them.

I put on the yellow lights sometimes when it is dark inside the car so i can see the instrument pannel better. the DRLs are still on. Would that be illegal?
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I think there are a few types of fog lights to be put into consideration here.
there are illegal fog lights like the ones on a off road rally vehicle that shine lights high and far like highbeams (45 to 60 degrees), while there are road lamp fog lights on street cars that aim at an agle towards the grown ( approx. 30 degrees).

There is clearly a difference in the direction the light is shining at.

Also, some cars have head lights that are not bright as others that will require the use of fog lights. for example, BMW's with Bi Xenons will probably light the road better at night with the headlights on alone, while a stock ponitiac sprint with require both head light and foglights to do the same.

in your case, even if you were ticketed here, I believe you should dispute this ticket for your reasons.
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I have a question, I have a 93 240sx and there are 2 yellow fog lights but they are too weak to project anything, are those really driving lights? because there are 2 DRL right below them.

I put on the yellow lights sometimes when it is dark inside the car so i can see the instrument pannel better. the DRLs are still on. Would that be illegal?

those should be legal and i remember older cars are allowed to have DRL's off during the day and you won't get ticketed.
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Also, some cars have head lights that are not bright as others that will require the use of fog lights. for example, BMW's with Bi Xenons will probably light the road better at night with the headlights on alone, while a stock ponitiac sprint with require both head light and foglights to do the same.
Try telling THAT to an officer...
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Although it's the rule or whatever..to OP, as long as the car is stock, then the judge will be considerate...what BS laws we have
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Old 11-05-2008, 12:47 AM   #33
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I think there are a few types of fog lights to be put into consideration here.
there are illegal fog lights like the ones on a off road rally vehicle that shine lights high and far like highbeams (45 to 60 degrees), while there are road lamp fog lights on street cars that aim at an agle towards the grown ( approx. 30 degrees).

There is clearly a difference in the direction the light is shining at.

Also, some cars have head lights that are not bright as others that will require the use of fog lights. for example, BMW's with Bi Xenons will probably light the road better at night with the headlights on alone, while a stock ponitiac sprint with require both head light and foglights to do the same.
I don't see how a Pontiac Sprint with fog lights will be able to light up the road any better than having the just the stock lights on. Perhaps in the immediate vicinity of the vehicle. The fog lights don't give any added distance at night, it basically acts as a filler in that distance between your bumper and your low beams. That's what the high beams are for, when you need the extra distance. Besides, proper foglights are meant to be aimed low so that it doesn't reflect in the fog.
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Old 11-05-2008, 07:22 PM   #34
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i would dispute this. i had a long discussion with a richmond officer that pulled me over in a road check for the very same reason. It was lightly raining, but right on river road, u can see the fog creeping over the water barrier thing to a good 2ft of fog on the road.

He said my fog lights being on was illegal. i stated that its not illegal to have them on when weather conditions are bad (rain), and then i pointed to the road in front of the car where u could clearly see the fog. i said this all politely but then he tried to bust me on something else. i was eventually let thru seeing as my highlander was as stock as they come.

i know there are a few officers around town that are very adamant about certain rules in the MVA that they make it their mission to pull over every car that seems to be violating that law.

Here's the main issue too, unless u actually take a good long hard look from the inside of the car, you wont know that the fog lights are on because some manufactuers failed to include a "fog light is on" indicator on the dashboard. the only time u would notice is if u had a flash light on the left steering column arm where the switch was turned to the on position. you would have to flicker on and off ur fog lights to realize they are actually on.
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I wonder why it's almost always Richmond RCMP when these stories come up...
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Old 11-05-2008, 07:44 PM   #36
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haha.. i am part of the 10%


anyways... do ppl with HIDs in projector housings get pulled over?

I always see them at night, and they really bother me.

Dodge ram and ford pick up trucks tailgating me at night is also very annoying.. I get blinded by their bright yellow lights reflecting off my side mirrors.
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Old 11-06-2008, 04:18 PM   #38
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^ I want to know too.

Someone please answer this.
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Old 11-07-2008, 06:44 AM   #39
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I used to pull them over, park them and VI/ticket/ If you are blinding other traffic and cannot see properly, you are NOT driving away. I would be held liable for letting you do so.
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Old 11-07-2008, 09:51 AM   #40
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Old 11-07-2008, 11:34 AM   #41
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Another retired traffic guy...who's going to do the work now? Hope you enjoy retirement and congratulations on making it this far!
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Old 11-08-2008, 05:24 AM   #43
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what i dont get is why audi a4's have the fog lights ALWAYS ON as daytime running lights along with their parking lights

doubt they get pulled over
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what i dont get is why audi a4's have the fog lights ALWAYS ON as daytime running lights along with their parking lights

doubt they get pulled over
There would be no reason to as the Canadian Motor Vehicle Safety Standards allow fog lamps to be used as daytime running lights.
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anyways... do ppl with HIDs in projector housings get pulled over?

I always see them at night, and they really bother me.

Dodge ram and ford pick up trucks tailgating me at night is also very annoying.. I get blinded by their bright yellow lights reflecting off my side mirrors.
Are you meaning REFLECTOR housing?!
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Are you meaning REFLECTOR housing?!
Not necessarily. HID bulbs in projectors not designed for HID bulbs will splash light all over the place as well.
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Old thread, but what kind of weather is it suitable to use fog lights? Only when it's dark and raining or any time of day with fog? Or can we use fog lights during the day while raining to provide better visibilty?
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Heavy snow and fog are the two situations that I have experienced where fog lights are useful instead of headlights.
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Wow, this is a great thread. I always wondered about foglights but forget to search for it. Now I can feel safe from being pulled over if I were to drive with foglights on (unmodified, factory pre-installed)
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