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then I should include good at driving...that will throw her out.

i dont even know what a "good girl" is.
theyre both complicated as fuck.
bother have their problems that they throw at you and try and start an argument somehow out of it.
i thought all my "good girl" gf's were good. turns out i got cheated on, and just treated me poorly.
even the girl im dating now is acting all fucked up.

i dont think there are ANY good girls out there.
its now you can take them on. if you can handle the drama. dont say theres no drama in some relationships, there ARE.

*ahem* hi.

lolz!

its all how you treat em that decides how they'll treat you. girl can be good or nice depending on the guy, and vice versa

If she lets me perform the "Show Stopper" then She's a nice girl. :)

that's spot on imo. plus girls that first seem more "innocent" at first become that much hotter when they do/wear something sexy.

this can be applied to both sex's..

"good girls are like parking spaces, the good ones are always taken, and whats left are handicapped..."

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So you go on 3 dates with 2 girls and then assume there's no good girls?
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nono dont' get me wrong, i'm not saying they suck or these aren't good girls.
I hear 9 out of 10 girls say, i'm looking for bf that willl blah blah blah blah. serioulsy, for me, each girl i date, i learn more and more about myself.

What is the "blah blah blah?" Are they unrealistic expectations?

everyone has their own definition. just like everyone has their own "idela" of a girl. one person may want a girl who is a freak in the sheets and a lady on the streets (and they do exist). but yea, its like arguing who you think is the hottest chick alive. to each their own, boys (and girls)

good girl definition for me:
She has the motivation to further better herself in her career and in life in general. She strives to be the best but knows when to settle for what she has. A girl who is fairly innocent but has a rebel streak. She has to be able to know which boundaries to cross and which she can not.

Im happy I found my girl.

ahhh, same! im happy bout mine...i get to have sex whenever i want, never talks back, never have to buy anything..very low maintenance...thank god for my palms..

^ FUCKER! :lol

speaking from experience i find that good girls all get fucked over in the end,
and im beginning to find that maybe im TOO independent
a lot of girls like to pick arguments with their bfs to proof their love etc etc
i hate doing that..but i find so many guys trapped to those
its all the same,
im looking for my good guy who wants to go further in life, can get kinky in the bedroom, funny, mature, understanding
i dont think that exists tho
so can someone tell me why clingyness is so popular among guys?

well at first it seems kinda cute because it lets us we know you like us and makes us feel wanted. but then it gets old. imo, I'll take a bit more confusion about her feelings at first if it means she won't be clinging onto me forever.

well your mom's right downstairs.
oh shoot. i forgot. your mom gives terrible BJ's

blah blah blah.... well, not really unrealistic expectations, but there's a find line between what you're about to get vs. what you're shopping for.

Unrealistic expectations = i want a rich guy that will love me for who I am, take care of me finanically, afford a nice apartment, good family, will have kids with me in 2 years, get me a 2 carat ring, lovely wedding, and then i won't have to work... but he supports me with an allowance so i can just be a housewive.

blah blah blah is when a girl is asking to meet a good outgoing bf, decent career, lives in downtown etc. HOWEVER, the girl is lacking everything and has no idea that she has to totally lower her standards cause she has no bargaining chip at all. I call it "you're not in their league"

^ agreed. most girls just need to get their head out of the clouds. just because they have a set of tits doesn't mean they are better than men.

it's all about respect more or less. you gotta give respect to get respect. i've met great girls who are totally realistic and down to earth. sadly, they're all taken. then you have the left over parking spots who claim they are this, that, and a bag of chips.

because of a pair of tits and a vagina, many men have given half of their kingdom away

mores the pitty. weak men ftl.

Girl # 3. Date # 1,2,3,4
I met this girl clubbing. yes, you can pick up girls at a club and no she wasn't a ho. We caught each other's eyes because we were both extremely good dancers. Our body connected, our moves were in sync and we danced till the club closed. I got her number and the text messaging were flying away. I asked her out for our first date few days later.

There was only one issue, and it came when we exchanged facebook a few days later. I added her and it turns out she just graduated from high school. She was 18, i'm about 9 + yrs older.

This girl was a great dancer and a very pretty model working at a famous restaurant. We dated a few times and boy oh boy just when you THINK some girls could act and be mature, this one was far from it.

Long story short, we thought we could both be mature and get somethign started but it just simply didn't work out. She was constantly in her rebellious stage and as much as I was being a nice guy, she just treated me like shit.

She taught me one thing, girls won't realize you're a good guy until ilke 15 years from now. I realized no matter what you try to do, when one person doesn't commit and aren't on the same page, there's NOTHING you can do to change them. SHe treated me as if I was a player so i just banned her. I ignored her on FB, deleted MSN, removed any means of contact.

She will always be the one I was truly mesmorized by her eyes and the way she moved her body.

Half plus seven, man. With that rule alone I could have told you it would have never worked.

18 and in a club... (illegal btw)
that alone should have told you she in the rebellion stage
she is just starting to break free