lol this is a VERY INTERSTING thread!! 6793026, your halarious, u got ur points about the girls that you went on dates with tho! but u gotta remember, there's always gonna be something about the person that might not attract you or perhaps be a deal breaker...depending on how bad it is, don't break free so soon from getting to know the person. but so far, sounds like what ur hunt for a 'good girl' appears to go nowhere! good luck!!

Girl # 4. Date 1,2,3,4,5. "it's not you, it's me"

I meet chick online. I have a decent profile, few pictures and a good description that advertizes me. Not that I don't get girls from different venues, but for guys that are past 25 yrs old, you can only network so much from work (all 40 yr old married women) or from your friends who's a limited circle. I'm sure some of you will agree.

You see a profile, you message each other. Guys pick and choose girls that are hot, or "wow this one looks uber sexy"; girls pick and choose too. Girls however tend to get tons of junk mail from guys with their naked / half naked bods with their tattoos and arms. 90% of the times, guys send out messages like throwing a message in a bottle drifted off into the ocean in which we never hear back from them.

Bottom line, if the girl is interesting, she gets my MSN. I will message her and always engage a decent conversation. So this girl, out of the blues, we chatted and BAM, monday night 9 PM, we met at starbucks and boy oh boy, we chatted for good 3 hours around downtown. Thinks were going great and week by week, we would hang out and since it was summer time, there's no excuse not to hang out for ice cream, or walk down the beach.

One day, one thing lead to another, we were listening to an ipod and we hugged. We spent the day together and we held each other almost falling asleep on the beach. Then it hit me. I can't do this. Oh, i guess I forgot to tell you a few things. She was a generally a good person but being the only child at home, she sort of lived in a bubble and she hasn't been a a real / serious relationship before.

That was the huge deal breaker for me. Yes, I could've educated and molded her but man, i'm not 20 no more. I just didn't want to lead her on and even though i could've have been a player, i didn't want to be the guy that she loses her V to. I did what the typical guy did "It's not you, it's me. I'm just not interested in a seriouls relationship".

We've been friends for a while now and this was the point where I finally told myself, i will not date chicks that hasn't been in a relationship before. I simply do not have time to teach her along with a few personal issue of her own.

good girls are hiding cos they are scared to be heart broken again.

I strongly disagree. I would say good girls rarely get burned for the reason that follows:

Apart from the usual morals blah blah blah blah characteristics thats been discussed of a good girl, I believe the true defining point of a good girl is one that knows how to prioritize and her strength in her will to stick to her discipline. Basically what I'm saying is, a good girl will always prioritize values such as work, career, money over boyfriends, friends, hobbies.

There's really not much chance for good girls to get burned because 1. They don't over expose themselves to social risks, 2. When they expose themselves to social risks, they don't have much invested in it anyways as their primary priority in life is work, career, money, future, identity.

Not saying they never get burned. But just not to the degree of the typical boy crazy girls who's sole purpose in life is to find their mate as soon as possible.


That being said, I still prefer "bad ass girls" over "good girls." I find that good girls who live a clean prioritized life tends to be sheltered and naive.

noir, i agree.

Type 1 good girls. these are the girls that are not social butterflies. they did great in school, they get a decent job, but they surround themselves with good gfs and basically just lives in a bubble. I classify these girls as 'Virgins" or girls that are best fit for geeks.

Type 2 good girls are the ones that are able to hold their own in a social event. they party hard, they laugh, they tell jokes, they enjoy and can have a great time with the guys. They keep good friends and these are the girls that we all want to marry when we meet them. (also, these girls are pretty, flirty, great in bed, good house wife)...

I rather get a bad girl and tame the shrew than the other way around. It's so hard to even start or maintain a good conversation with a girl that's innocent.

good girls take it in the ass hahahaha

You think that's tough, try pushing an innocent/good girl's sexual boundaries when you're in a relationship.

"ewww that's sick"
"that's disgusting"
"i'm not a slut"
"you pervert"

All I can say is... Good luck trying to stay happy with only Missionary & Girl-on-top for the rest of your life. :lol

Just had another thought. I agree with this 110%.

I think its better in the long run if a girl has gotten all of her impulsiveness out of her system and all her curiosities satisfied at the appropriate age, rather than it all creeping up when she's married or together for XX years and bored.

Every guy wants a good girl, but how many would...

- Wait 6+ months to have sex with the girl

- Give up those frequent binge drinking nights with your buddies every weekend

- Basically give up the opportunity to have 'double dates' with your friends (if you're struggling to find a good girl the chances are your friends are bad boys which she won't like).

- Be willing to go to uncomfortable social events (every weddding, funeral, family get-together, etc).

Most guys wouldn't be willing to do all of the above, let alone any of the above.

Votrechien: not really sure what is considered difficult, maybe everyone is diff?
-i dated my X for 1 year before we had sex.
-i did not give up on my friends but i introduced my gf to my freinds and we compromised.
- i gave up smoking NOT cause of the girl, but cause i wanted to.
- wedding, funerals and family get togethers are fine, parents love me and each time I go i am the party and we joke and laugh and they accept me as the person that I am and i am not the traditional type of guy the girl brings home. (doesn't bold well when i have a huge industrial ear-ring on to begin with.)

i guess it's all based on age, maturity and how you present yourself with the situations.

Girl # 5 Date # 0. Flirting 101

I met you at a party and I didn't pay any attention to you. You were just at that party and I was just doing my own thing. It turns out the company that I work for is associated with yours and that was about all that we talked about. We mingled and never thought much of it.

then the internet kicked in. We both started to chat on email and it's interesting how a person as ditzy as you can be such a big flirt. I know you have eyes that can melt butter but your kung fu is not strong enough girl. You are a flirt, and I can read right thru you. I am a bit older and was shocking to you cause I am the confident and funny guy you're not used to meeting. Honey, your flirty flirt personality gets you noticed but with me, you need to bring your game to really get my attention.

So you did and I am going to slowly shed your layers like peeling an onion. You are so used to used flirting (and of course ur boobs does help) to get attention, but I'm going to reall crush your shell and really get you to be who you really are. Be yourself, you will never have to be 'on' with me, just be yourself and enjoy the ride.

Maybe one of these days, we will meet in person and go on a real date.

to be continuted.

If you gotta wait 3+ dates to have sex, she probally isn't all that into sex. I guess thats great for guys who like "virgin" girls. Simply put tho life is short and if your going on 3+ dates move on.

or maybe she just doesn't want to jump into having sex.

why would you bring up smoking if she had nothing to do with it? sokay. I quit cause I felt like it to. funny thing was, second she was gone, i felt like a drag.

HAHAHAHHA the last line makes me want to puke

MAN.. buncha heart breaks in here


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can i sit down 2? =(

Girl # 4 dated 7 months
Girl, we met on friendster. Actually, you stalked me on friendster because I was ur target meat(asian, motorcycle, scuba dives etc) and you sent me a message. You were great to talk on MSN, responsive, funny and joked around. You asked if you can ride my motorcycle and that's how we got started. I picked you up on my bike at the ferry since you lived in victoria and we had a blast on the weekend. You stayed at my apartment and i let you sleep on the bed and i was on the couch. i was a gentleman.

next week, you came over, and we fucked around. then it happened. You got a call in the car from your friend. It went like this. Ring ring, "hi jill" "what are you up to"... "oh nothing i'm with my boyfrined". I"m like WTFFFFFFFFFFF, we just fucked once and now i'm your boyfriend. fuck, i swear, i should have called the relationship police cause that's like entrapment or something. i was single, might as well... you were one heck of a maid cause you knew how to keep thigns clearn.
3 months later, you caught me cheating. then i went off track and cheated some more. You forgave me and we tried to be a couple. (PS. if a girl forgives you, RUN cause she'll always have a tab on you *insert Chris Rock bit). 6 mth into our 7 mth relatinoship, i knew you were cheating, but sorry, two wrongs doesn't make a right. I say good bye and literally deleted you from my life. I did not reply one single email, text, freindster message.

I hear that you are having a great time with your now fiance. FYI. HE'S CHEATING ON YOU FOR 2 YEARS. GOOD luck with your marriage.

ROFL, funniest shit ever

This is bullshit. It's entirely possible she doesn't think you're good enough to get into her pants at least not yet. Or perhaps she's just not easy. Or what if she wants to feel a wonderful meaning connection before she jumps into sex. Or it could be that she doesn't want to be judged by you for being a girl who just gives it up. (Don't kid yourself into thinking girls don't know guys don't like it when they're easy. There might be a few liberal guys out there who believe otherwise but there are many more who just that). Or maybe it's you.

or maybe all the good girls are gone because I raped them all. But no one ever thinks about that.

:lol I think you just proved him right.

The girls you explained are the type that view "Relationship > Sex". They only view sex as an outlet to convey one's feelings to their partner. And are attached to sex for that reason. So they're not necessarily "into sex" just "into the guy."

If you re-read again.
I think he's referring to girls that can enjoy sex for sex's sake. Someone who knows how to enjoy sex in its pure unadulterated fashion with out the complexities of emotion or societal stigma.

And no, these girls aren't sluts.

Easy solution.

http://canada-care.ca/pics/nannys/maid2.jpg
Especially if she's got a background in prostitution. Make sure she's clean. Fix her face up a bit in Korea, tummy tuck here, rhinoplasty there, butt lift a bit.

And all for a low low price each month, no LV purses needed.

In bold, a relationship does not mean sex comes in second it very well could a tie. Just because she doesn't hop into bed with you in less than 3 dates does not in any way mean she's "not that into sex". And how the hell would you know? You've never been a girl who's waited more or less than 3 dates have sex.

That depends entirely on your definition of a slut. Because that word is interpreted many different ways.

what is a good girl to you? it's differnt to everyone.

Really, you have to find the one in the right places. to some pimp, a good girl is one that let's the guy mess around with her whenever.