Advance Motorsport 2009 Project Car #1: AP1 S2000, Spoon Stroker, Kraftwerks, K-pro Advance Motorsport 2009 Project Car #1: 2001 AP1 S2000 Goal: Street/Track Estimated Power: 400-450whp Engine setup: F22C OEM short block, cylinder bored out 0.25 os Spoon 2.2L Stroker kit with balanced 0.25 OS piston (11.8CR), crankshaft, connecting rods: Ceramic coated piston top Teflon coated Piston Skirts, Crankshaft, and Connecting Rods Rebuilt F20C head: Supertech Stainless Steel OEM size valves Supertech Double Valve springs All new F22C retainers, valve guides, seals, gaskets Spoon Head Gasket ARP headstuds Hondata Intake Manifold Gasket F22C valve covers with 2006+ sensors (For Hondata Kpro) NRG Engine Torque Damper with PuddyDad Mount DME Radiator Cooling Plate Krankvents Skunk2 Magnetic Engine Oil Drain Plug ENEOS 0W50 Engine Oil Engine Breathing: Megan Racing Header – Ceramic Coated Invidia 70mm Testpipe with O2 Fix Greddy TiC 70mm Turbo Exhaust Custom Remote Exhaust Volume Controller Forced Induction, Fuel System, and Engine Tuning: Kraftwerks Supercharger YouTune System with Rotrex C30 Supercharger Synapse Synchronic Blow Off Valve RC Engineering 750CC Saturated Fuel Injectors Walbro 255lh High Flow Fuel Pump Hondata K-pro Standalone ECU Snow Performance Meth/Water injection cooling kit Engine Cooling: Samco coolant hose Mugen Fan switch Mugen Thermostat Transmission / Clutch: PuddyMod Stage2 Differential Rebuild with 4.56 FD Gear ACT Heavy Duty Pressure Plate OEM AP1 Transmission OEM AP1 Flywheel OEM AP1 Clutch Disc Skunk2 Magnetic Transmission Oil Drain Plug Foot Work: KW Variant 3 Coilover Suspenion Cusco Front Sway Bar Cusco Front lower member tie bar Cusco Rear lower member tie bar Cusco Chassis Ladder bar OEM AP1 Rear Sway Bar J’s Racing Front Roll Center Adjuster + camber kit J’s Racing Rear Roll Center Adjuster AP2 Rear Subframe Megan Racing rear toe arm (Rear Bump Steer Kit) Megan Racing front tie bar endlinks (Front Bump Steer Kit) T1R Half Shaft Spacers Wheel/Tires/Brakes: Enkei RPF1 F:17x9 +45mm, R:17x9 +35mm Bridgestone RE01R F:225/40-17, R:255/35-17 Carbotech XP10 brakepads (front) Carbotech XP8 brakepads (rear) Carbotech rotors Motul 5.1 Brake fluid Electronics: Clarion Headunit Braille Carbon Battery (11lb) Racelogic Traction Control system with Launch Control Exterior / Aerodynamics: J's Racing TypeS V1 Aero Kit (Front, Rear bumper) J's Racing TypeS Carbon Canards J’s Racing Carbon 3D Type1 GT Wing T1R Carbon Side Diffuser ASM rear over fender (molded) (15mm wider) Seibon carbon front wide fender (10mm wider) Custom OEM Vented Hood Custom Lamboghini White paintjob LED DRL Interior: Custom wrapped Black Leather / Alcantara steering wheel Custom Alcantara Shift Boot Bride Brix II seats with Bride MO seat rails Defi Boost Gauge Defi EGT Gauge Defi Fuel Pressure Gauge AEM UEGO Wideband Gauge Autometer Nitrous Gauge Modifry Shift Beeper Skunk2 Titanium Shift Knob Black Leather Center Console Cover We are building this project car with balance in mind. We are aiming for a good overall balance with very reliable streetability. This is not a drag machine and we are not looking to get extreme peak power from the engine which is why we chose the supercharger over the turbo. We want a high revving engine with good engine response and thus we decided to experiment with the slightly higher compression along with a mild boost setup (8 – 10psi). We will be dynoing the car one step at a time, from all NA, to boosted, to more engine and headwork. This should be a fun and interesting project. This project has just started so it will probably take a while to complete. Stay tuned for more updates as we will be taking lots of pictures along the way. Thanks! Happy Holidays! http://www.advmotors.com/Images/adv_round350.jpg Here are some pics of the car at its current stage!! http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3238/...8f568f0d15.jpg http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3004/...2eb33c4424.jpg Stripped interior in the trunk and sprayed with plastic Coat: http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3164/...5009ac88c7.jpg Defi Gauges: http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3020/...3eee985615.jpg Seibon Fenders: http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3048/...4d7f12de75.jpg Traction Control: http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3234/...0b0c4930a5.jpg KW Coilovers: http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3197/...e6579fccc8.jpg Old Engine is out: http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3011/...902b309c57.jpg New F22C short block still in the box: http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3035/...c89757a621.jpg Rebuilt F20C head: http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3227/...c64172ac45.jpg Thanks it for now guys! :D |
Nice project but I think your goals of 450whp are a little lofty. How much boost are you going to run the charger at? Maybe with the meth you can pull it off but still thats asking alot from that motor. What are you going to do to address the dif. thats going to blow up on you? Berz out. |
We are running the kraftwerks supercharger at approximately 8psi. We have talked to Kraftwerks and with their current setup, 2.2L, stock cat, skunk2 exhaust, stock header, they are dynoed at 406WHP at 8psi. We are hoping that with a more free flow exhaust, and eventually some headwork, we could get close to 450whp. I do agree with you it might not be attainable, but we will try. As for the diff, it's being rebuilt with a custom housing, all the gears and housing will be cyro treated, and blueprinted and built with very tight tolerance. |
Thats impressive that they are pulling that kind of power with a stock header and and stock cat. Your right there is an easy 20 or so HP sitting right there. Good call on the diff. sounds like you are doing everything right best of luck to you on the build. Berz out. |
wow, I'm speechless. I can't wait to see this S2K done! |
holy shit. i love it. |
Great looking build! On a side note. Why are you running forced induction with a 11.8 Compression Ratio? |
That is a very good question!!! This is the part that we are experimenting :D We did some math to calculate the effective compression ratio and thought the slightly higher compression might work with a mild boost setup. (8 to 10psi) There are lots of people running their supercharger up to 12psi to 14psi of boost with stock compression ratio (11.1CR) reliably daily. Following the formula of : ECR = ((boost psi/14.7) + 1) X engine compression ratio 12psi with 11.1CR = Effective Compression Ratio of 20.16 In our case with 11.8CR and 8psi of boost, the ECR will be 18.22. With 10psi of boost the ECR will be 19.83. We figured an engine with a higher compression/lower boost will yield more mid range power which will be good for road track. This is especially true in the case of centrifugal charger where max boost is reached only at redline. Obviously we will need very good tuning to make sure we are not detonating and blowing up the engine. We are also ceramic coating the piston top, as well as adding meth/water injection to lower the chance of detonating. If in case the static compression ratio is really too high, then we will always have the option to use a thicker head gasket to lower the CR, but we will leave that to the last resort. |
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hmm... long time no see? where have you been lookinco? |
Compression and Boost work well together when done right. As long as your tune is on and you don't get greedy with the boost levels this should prove to be pretty good in the midrange. IF you have problems with the compression being to high a thicker headgasket "will" reduce the compression a small amount but nothing drastic. I normally would shy against using a thicker headgasket just due to the failure rate but at 8psi you should be safe using a thick gasket. Only way to see is just to do it ! Berz out. |
Replace the radio door!! God damn.. this is exactly what I want to do to my car right down to the PuddyMod diff and Kraftwerks supercharger, and possibly the F22 bottom end. Maybe I'll come see you guys about it when the time comes haha. There's something wrong with your wheel/tire setup. Why is the rear wheel a lower offset than the front, unless you're modifying the hubs? And why a staggered tire setup on the same 9" wheels front and back? |
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^ iuno, my friend has some 17x10 rfps and they look pretty damn nice. can't wait til they go on his car haha but i can't wait to see what this thing can do. and water meth, makes me wanna drool. |
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Stock offsets are +55 and +65 front to rear, respectively. I'm somewhat surprised you didn't know that? :confused: |
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Shouldn't this be in the 'Member's Journal" ? |
are customers allowed to test drive it? lol |
i say more pics!!!! |
Okay more pics coming. Getting the crank ready to ship out for Teflon coatings. http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3193/...1867ce7799.jpg Took the stock F22C rods and piston out, and sent the block out to bore the cylinder. http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3065/...a44207b60d.jpg Bling Bling, it's SPOON!! http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3193/...c1cba21be0.jpg |
Why if your doing all that work.. don't you get the block sleeved? I mean the peace of mind would far outweigh the cost. Especially for what your planning. Berz out. |
fuck you, now u got those bride seats in the car, i wont be able to sit or drive it! |
yah i tried sitting in the s2k shoei, damn its a tight fit now :( -ed |
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