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Old 12-21-2008, 07:06 PM   #1
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If im prohibited from driving in bc can I get a Alberta dl?

I am loosing my bc license soon because of a intent to prohibit letter I recieved. Say I move to Alberta can I get a license there? Cuz icbc is only b.c. Right?
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Old 12-21-2008, 07:29 PM   #2
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Sorry to break the new to you. The license systems are connected in Canada and US, all the provinces and states provide each other information on suspended licenses. If you tried to obtain a license in Alberta, Washington, etc... they would know your license is BC is suspended and won't issue a license until your prohibition is over.
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Add the fact that you have to declare that you are not prohibited in another jurisdiction when you apply for a license. No point adding another illegal act to the list by telling them that you aren't when you are....

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(4) Every offender who operates a motor vehicle, vessel or aircraft or any railway equipment in Canada while disqualified from doing so, other than an offender who is registered in an alcohol ignition interlock device program established under the law of the province in which the offender resides and who complies with the conditions of the program,

(a) is guilty of an indictable offence and liable to imprisonment for a term not exceeding five years; or

(b) is guilty of an offence punishable on summary conviction.

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(5) For the purposes of this section, "disqualification" means

(a) a prohibition from operating a motor vehicle, vessel or aircraft or any railway equipment ordered pursuant to any of subsections (1), (2) and (3.1) to (3.4); or

(b) a disqualification or any other form of legal restriction of the right or privilege to operate a motor vehicle, vessel or aircraft imposed

(i) in the case of a motor vehicle, under the law of a province, or


(ii) in the case of a vessel or an aircraft, under an Act of Parliament,

in respect of a conviction or discharge under section 730 of any offence referred to in any of subsections (1), (2) and (3.1) to (3.4).
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Old 12-22-2008, 04:34 AM   #4
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I bet you thought you were pretty clever when you thought of this.

"Gee! I'm probably the first person to ever think of this and so I'll try to exploit it so i don't have to take on my responsibilities and consequences for my action!"
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My lawyer said it is possible. You have to apply for your Alberta dl before your prohibition begins. You also need to provide proof of permanent residence in Alberta. And obviously you need to keep your BC dl for proof of license when you are at the alberta licensing center. It is also important to know that if you are known to police, it is not a good idea to drive a lot because you are only legally allowed to drive in BC with alberta plates and license I believe up to 6 months.
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To the OP,

Get an International Driver License somewhere else [ i.e..not in the States or Canada] , if you are really desperate...


Personally speaking, I suggest you to just wait until it's over...

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Two weeks ago I caught a guy with an Alberta drivers license who did the exact same thing you are thinking about doing. I impounded the car he was driving for 60 days, which was his girlfriends father's car, gave him a few tickets, and now he has a criminal charge outstanding. So not a good idea.

As for the suggestion to get an international driver's license, that is wrong. He is prohibited from driving no matter what he has that says he can drive.
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In addition, an IDL is NOT a DL, it is a translation of an existing valid DL. In some countries the IDL is supplied by the local Automobile Assn. I got one in germany and that's what I did.

BTW, if your lawyer really told you to break the law and to commit a crime, at the very least I would be immediately trying to get one who actually knew what he was doing....or running away from the criminal charges he is liable for. Your guy should be going back to chasing ambulances.

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My lawyer never told me to do this. It was merely a suggestion (if that).
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"My lawyer said it is possible"...you said. Even if he did he is still either misinformed ( and you are paying him for legal advice) or he is telling you to deliberately break the law. Either way I would not stand to close to him because you may experience some collateral damage when the fit hits the shan !
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"when the fit hits the shan"

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Two weeks ago I caught a guy with an Alberta drivers license who did the exact same thing you are thinking about doing. I impounded the car he was driving for 60 days, which was his girlfriends father's car, gave him a few tickets, and now he has a criminal charge outstanding. So not a good idea.
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In addition, an IDL is NOT a DL, it is a translation of an existing valid DL. In some countries the IDL is supplied by the local Automobile Assn. I got one in germany and that's what I did.

BTW, if your lawyer really told you to break the law and to commit a crime, at the very least I would be immediately trying to get one who actually knew what he was doing....or running away from the criminal charges he is liable for. Your guy should be going back to chasing ambulances.
IDL doesn't help. trust me ive been in your situation and did the IDL. didnt work and cost me 18 more months. choose wisely
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IDL doesn't help. trust me ive been in your situation and did the IDL. didnt work and cost me 18 more months. choose wisely
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if your getting suspended it's usually a hint and a half. there is a reason your not supposed to drive, it's a punishment for doing something you shouldn't have done enough times that the government decided you can't drive anymore. even trying to think of a way to get around this situation makes me scared. to think that someone of your caliber is still trying to drive legally, and will likely continue to drive illegally when the suspension comes down tells me that you and all people like you need to have thier license's taken away permanently. learn to respect the regualtions we have in place for the safety of everyone who use the roads. maybe we need a differant show on tv, instead of canada's worst driver, how about canada's stupidest drivers.

didn't mean to flame this thread, it's just situation's like this enrage me everytime i see them. I guess ron white said it best. "you can't fix stupid"
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I think the point people here are missing is that a license suspension is not just a suspension.

It is a PROHIBITION from operating a motor vehicle on any public road in B.C.

To get around it you basically need to move to a different continent , take a driving test , get a license and then you can drive , just not in BC.

Yes , you can go to AB , get a new license before you're suspended here , problem is , you are still PROHIBITED in BC, no matter what license you have from wherever!

Man , I have tried it all , none of it works , the only thing that worked for me was hiring a very crafty (read expensive) lawyer who specializes in these matters , he came up with some pretty crazy ideas , and we won , but only barely.

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don't get suspended in the first place.

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Well this isn't for Alberta-BC, but its about Ontario-BC

thing is I know someone who had did not pay a ticket just before their G2 license was to expire, the license was suspended for non-payment of a ticket, and on top of that the g2 expired.

Buddy just moved here to BC and went to the drive place. Got a history report from MTO in Toronto, and BC saw that his license was suspended for 3 days for non-payment of fine and then was suspended, and still issued him a class 5 BC license with no exam, written or driven. Since he held a valid g2 Ontario license less than 3 years prior, he is eligible.

I was blown away in shock and awe, but he got it.

I have some advice for you, call ICBC and they will connect you with the head dispatch place in Victoria. Tell them your story and have them tell you. Police are normally super biased and will deter anyone from doing anything wrong. My buddy was calling ICBC to inquire how to pay off the fine, so he could get licensed here. They told him that even though he had a fine outstanding in Ontario, he was still eligible to get his license here, as long as he got the history report. They did recommend to not drive in Ontario with the BC license, and to look into sometime paying the Ontario fines off.

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Police are normally super biased and will deter anyone from doing anything wrong.
Silly me, I always thought that this was what the police were supposed to do!
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Silly me, I always thought that this was what the police were supposed to do!
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nah hahaha really? I thought you were here to enslave and punish?

I would rather ask the ministry rather than an officer. I guarantee you that my buddy would have been told that he would be slapped in cuffs and locked up with bubba if he was caught driving with his class 5, and being suspended in Ontario. I like to get both sides of the story, the police and the connected ministry. Cops are here to enforce the law, and uphold it, not control humans like puppets.

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In BC, they don't suspend your license when you have outstanding fees; that's why your buddy could still get the Class 5.

Can you not see the difference?
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"My lawyer said it is possible"...you said. Even if he did he is still either misinformed ( and you are paying him for legal advice) or he is telling you to deliberately break the law. Either way I would not stand to close to him because you may experience some collateral damage when the fit hits the shan !
Probably to get him to commit another crime so he gets the pay for representing him again.
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