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Old 01-17-2009, 05:44 PM   #26
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maybe im just crazy but i find that my summers have better wet grip than my winters.
anyways i wouldnt swap until the roads dont look like the surface of the moon
summer tires are suppose to have better wet grip than winter tires
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Old 01-17-2009, 06:02 PM   #27
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Winter technically ends March 21st, so if you want to go by the argument that ICBC can screw you over, change them over the 22nd of March.
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Hi, i was wondering when you guys put your summer tires back on?

I don't want to rush it. but i mean i hate my stock wheels.

I'm hoping there isn't anymore snow.
winter tires are not just for snow... they are for cold. if you put your summer tires back on and it stays cold like normal you will have tons of traction issues.

they're called WINTER tires, not snow tires. The softer winter compound works in colder temps because it dosen't harden as fast in cold. Summer tires are meant for warm weather.

keep them on until it's regularly over 5-10*
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my hi-po summers (bridgestone re050's) have just a brutal ride when it gets cold... like 4'c and below. is this the result of the compound?
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my hi-po summers (bridgestone re050's) have just a brutal ride when it gets cold... like 4'c and below. is this the result of the compound?
I have the same tires. Compounds are a lot harder than other summer tires.
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winter tires are not just for snow... they are for cold. if you put your summer tires back on and it stays cold like normal you will have tons of traction issues.

they're called WINTER tires, not snow tires. The softer winter compound works in colder temps because it dosen't harden as fast in cold. Summer tires are meant for warm weather.

keep them on until it's regularly over 5-10*
I know what the tires do and i have ice/snow tires, not winter tires.

i was driving on my summers until middle of december, didn't have any traction problems.

but for it's a much better idea to keep my snows on until i know for sure it's going to stop snowing. Never thought about the damage the salt could do to my wheels so i'll just wait.
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don't put it back on till april.

i wrapped a pole late feb cuz i was too eager to put my toys back on.
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summer tires are supposed to be taken off?
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if you don't drive like a dumbass.... put them on as soon as snow melts... turn your steering wheel left and right to feel how much traction your tires gets
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Um, that Pirelli graph shows that winter tires suck as soon as the temperature goes above 7C? Err..
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^ Your not going to damage the compound of your summers. Technically speaking they will last longer as the compound hardens. The same will happen with winters, using them in warm weather will generally wear them out faster.
But after I've been using them in winter times, let's say below 7c, will the summer tires perform/grip as good as before in the 1st summer season? This is my main concern because a lot of people uses these sticky RE050/RE01-R/RT615 or even A032R/A048/NT01/V70A during summer time.

I guess yeah they may last longer but they'll probably turn into hockey pucks after a winter & basically lower the performance of these fancy summer tires?

And I've been to ICBC claim centre with a few friends recently. I saw the employees taking a quick look at what kinda tires are on the vehicle & they asked what type of tires the vehicles are using. Well good that they both have these "3 seasons" with decent threads left on them. I wonder what they gonna do if u have summer tires on under cold temperature?

superslowSS: How would u see if the summer tires can help u stop on time under cold temperature?
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superslowSS: How would u see if the summer tires can help u stop on time under cold temperature?
if you want to see how long it takes... just hit the brake when nobody is around you. Use your head, when it is cold outside.. give yourself more room to stop. Unless you hit black ice... then even winter tires might give you problem.

but seriously... are some of you driving at the limit all the time or something? We live in vancouver, most roads are straight as an arrow. If you drive at the speed limit and give yourself enough room, you will not have any problem with summer tires. (I am assuming no snow on the road)
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if you want to see how long it takes... just hit the brake when nobody is around you. Use your head, when it is cold outside.. give yourself more room to stop. Unless you hit black ice... then even winter tires might give you problem.
Weather here in Vancouver changes all the times & road condition changes too! I wish I see salt trucks around salting the main road when the road turns icy at night here in Burnaby. The leave more room method may work while u're at the MOST ideal road condition(totally dry road surface & not a single patch of black ice which u can't see)and if the other drivers around u actually use their common sense.

It's getting harder & harder to drive around GVRD without getting into trouble nowadays. I see people tailgate the others, ignore yield signs & run stop signs & cut right in front of u then hard brake everyday. Winter tires do a better job on helping me to maneuver or brake and avoid accident from happening.

Some people damaged their automatic transmission by rocking their cars back and forth when they're stuck and ALL of them use 3season tires. Get on to throttle lightly(it's hard to get traction when your drive wheels are spinning like crazy) & use proper winter tires with good threads in the correct direction helps u getting out of trouble easier. That's the only way if u don't have a small shovel inside your car anyway. Make sure u apply the brakes & the wheels comes into a stop before u shift instead of rocking the gears back & forth from R to D/D to R. It's painful if u need to dig out a few thousand bucks to replace a tranny.

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I'm driving on my summers right now and was driving on them as soon as the snow melted

Of course it helps that if it does snow I can drive a different car...

I don't think street radials regardless of performance need a heat cycle or need it to be above a temperature to go around the lower mainland... unless they're all hat racing to their destinations
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i put them on when the average temperature for the last 10 days is over 5C
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i just put my winters on. so much grip
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i just slapped on my summers last week.
sold my all seasons and now in search of winter rims/tires
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