$1.4-billion spent on Downtown Eastside since 2000, More than $1.4-billion later, the

[Hondaracer]

not to mention the hotel owners would obviously have to sell their shit hole hotels to redevelop the area, it's not like they would just renovate the hotels into condos..

man.. who the fuck would want to live in the olympic village next to the subsidized housing part? u pay 600k for a place there and next door there's some junky sitting in his place thats just as big as yours paying $300 a month and leaving dirty needles all around? fuck that

[Jason00S2000]

Originally Posted by Hondaracer

not to mention the hotel owners would obviously have to sell their shit hole hotels to redevelop the area, it's not like they would just renovate the hotels into condos..

man.. who the fuck would want to live in the olympic village next to the subsidized housing part? u pay 600k for a place there and next door there's some junky sitting in his place thats just as big as yours paying $300 a month and leaving dirty needles all around? fuck that

If our society can't stop a jobless single woman from having 14 kids, do you think society is ready to tell someone to stop doing drugs while taxes cover their medical, food and rent?


We reward the people who deserve it least!

[RRxtar]

the only way to fix problems like this is to take away civil and constitutional rights to the people there.

first step: take away the rights of a criminal. you break the law, you are no longer protected by it.

second step: MUCH heavier drug laws. you get caught doing/possessing/selling heroin, meth, or crack, you are now a criminal. refer to step 1.

third step: mandatory rehabilitation programs for all drug related criminals. locked up with no parole until full rehabilitation is complete

fourth step: reopen mental institutions. if you are unable to function as a reasonable member of society, you should not be given the rights of someone who does. you should not be allowed to contribute to your own problem




in every other species of life on earth, the weak members die and increase the overall health of the species (evolution). humans, however, carry the weak on their back, and allow them to leach off of the rest of the species and reproduce, lowering the overall quality.

[Jason00S2000]

Originally Posted by RRxtar

in every other species of life on earth, the weak members die and increase the overall health of the species (evolution). humans, however, carry the weak on their back, and allow them to leach off of the rest of the species and reproduce, lowering the overall quality.

I want to run for politics in a few decades. Since the DTES will probably be twice as big by then, I will propose a radical solution!

A 100 story monolith looking building, first 60 floors are social housing, but with strictly monitored access to the building, 61-80 floors are education and health services, 81-90 are the prison floors, 91-99 administration, 100th floor, restaurant and viewing deck

All the DTES residents could live there, and then demolish the shitty looking hotels, buildings, and streets, and redevelop the area into a nice park!

[RRxtar]

i would place the prison above the viewing deck. and have a diving board off the top floor with free access to everyone in the prison. the viewing deck would be below this for obvious reasons.

[orange7]

$1.4 billion is more than enough to buy a reserved land somewhere away from the city and place all the junkies there. Let them develope hunting skill and eat animal fat to survive...

[Death2Theft]

They also dont allow you to change or upgrade the use of these facilities in fear that you'll rent to "normal" people. If you want to say combine four small rooms into a small condo room and rent it out you would have to pay 50k per room just for permits (200k) You'd be better off just buying a condo because the permit costs would already cost more. They didn't build enough housing for these people and dont want a flood of them on the street.

As far as riverview is concerned mental people on the street typically dont want help. If someone eats his own feces and wants to bring home rats in his pocket and talks to them. The mental health people wont take them unless they agree to go or they pose life threatening danger to someone else. So if you were living beside this guy he could wipe poo on your door daily and u can't do anything about it.

Originally Posted by Jason00S2000

Yes, but doesn't the government basically use the hotel owners as babysitters, forcing hotel owners to care for these people?

i.e. refusing to allow hotel owners to kick out known drug dealers/fuck ups/transexual, intellectual, one testicle people?

[agentcloud]

chaaaaange?

[RRxtar]

Originally Posted by Death2Theft

As far as riverview is concerned mental people on the street typically dont want help. If someone eats his own feces and wants to bring home rats in his pocket and talks to them. The mental health people wont take them unless they agree to go or they pose life threatening danger to someone else. So if you were living beside this guy he could wipe poo on your door daily and u can't do anything about it.

and thats where the change needs to be made. if these people are deemed mentally incapable of functioning properly in society, they should not have the same rights to choose how to live their life that "normal" people do.


i know its nearly impossible to draw the line in this kind of a thing, but thats not up to me to figure out