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supersaag 03-02-2009 09:59 AM

Get rid of the taser. Get the baton out. Make the guy hurt for the next month.

Jason00S2000 03-02-2009 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by supersaag (Post 6308270)
Get rid of the taser. Get the baton out. Make the guy hurt for the next month.


Cops are too pussy these days to do that.



Cops = gang


Gangs and cops... no difference. Neither are on your side, they both have their own interests to look after.

supersaag 03-02-2009 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Jason00S2000 (Post 6308336)
Cops are too pussy these days to do that.



Cops = gang


Gangs and cops... no difference. Neither are on your side, they both have their own interests to look after.


Whaaaa? "Neither are on your side" If your mom/sister/wife/daughter got kidnapped/murdered whose going to help you? I bet the next thing your going to say is parking patrol is a gang right?

welfare 03-02-2009 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by supersaag (Post 6308431)
Whaaaa? "Neither are on your side" If your mom/sister/wife/daughter got kidnapped/murdered whose going to help you? I bet the next thing your going to say is parking patrol is a gang right?

all depends, really. how rich/well known is your family?

Gh0stRider 03-02-2009 10:07 PM

fuck Dziekanski

welfare 03-02-2009 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by TRD604 (Post 6309392)
fuck Dziekanski

way to go, sport. comments like that speak volumes of your level of intelligence

Hondaracer 03-02-2009 10:28 PM

i say fuck Dziekanski and fuck his stupid ass mother as well

the inquiry today that they showed on the news was absolutely disgusting, questioning the officers integrity and the whole story was posed like they were in the wrong

I'm going to take my camera and record 2 different little spots from COPS i watched today

in one an asian man who was 20 years old, who couldnt have been more then 150lb's was behind a glass little patio door and the cops just wanted to talk to him, he was saying get out, why are u in my home? bla bla bla, he then tried to shut the glass door and when he did the cop kicked it down and tazered him like no tommarow, no warning given, no questions asked

i think it's an absolute joke this inquiry is even going on, and if there was no video tape of the incident, this would never be happening

again ill say it, fuck Dziekanski and fuck his dumb ass cunt mother.

Gh0stRider 03-02-2009 10:44 PM

just voicing my opinion, idiot

falcon 03-02-2009 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Superfived (Post 6305611)

.....You did suggest that the killing was warrantied and here the quote in your first post......
<snip>
.........He was an idiot and that's why he got killed right......
<snip>
...... situation and possible help him killed him instead.....

The thing that you guys don't seem to get is that this was not a "killing". No body got killed... but yes someone DIED.

dude got tazed... dude died. the RCMP officers were not thinking "hey lets kill this guy, grab your tazer!".. if they wanted to do real damaged they would have pulled out guns.

Jason00S2000 03-02-2009 11:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by supersaag (Post 6308431)
Whaaaa? "Neither are on your side" If your mom/sister/wife/daughter got kidnapped/murdered whose going to help you? I bet the next thing your going to say is parking patrol is a gang right?



Heh, if I were allowed a gun, I would find the people who kidnapped my sister/wife/daughter and slaughter their entire bloodline

welfare 03-03-2009 05:39 AM

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Originally Posted by TRD604 (Post 6309457)
just voicing my opinion, idiot

and i was just stating a fact.
how about elaborating a little more?

taylor192 03-03-2009 08:17 AM

20 years ago people complained police officers didn't carry a non-lethal weapon capable of taking down criminals. Today they do, and unfortunately people still complain even though police killings have been reduced to virtually nil.

Mistakes are going to happen, especially when dealing with mentally unstable people. The cops cannot admit to their mistake without opening a huge can of whoop-ass for civil suits and dismissal, so they have to stick to their story. When I commit a mistake at work it doesn't cost my company millions and me my job, its just the consequences of a mistake for a police officer are much higher.

Perhaps if we locked up the mentally unstable in institutions rather than let them roam society, we wouldn't have these problems... yet the latte-liberal lefties would have you believe its wrong to keep mentally challenged people out of society, even if its for their own good.

To everyone complaining: have you ever been on a ride-along? I have, my close friends are police and RCMP officers so I wanted to see what their jobs are like. Their jobs such, dealing with the worse people in society, those who disrespect them, those who are incapable of reason, ... so I give officers a bit more leniency for their conduct and I wish more people would too.

tool001 03-03-2009 09:30 AM

i guess its ok, till it happens close to home,
cops have shitty job, well deal with it, they are trained for it, mentally and physically, to deal with scum, if they have problems, they shouldnt be doing it.

its not about person being killed, its about they using excessive force on a guy who didn't understand a word .

IF i chinese person was in the same situation, a translator will be provided. For fuck sakes they even have immigration exams in CHINESE and other languages. This city is planning to host the games. They just showed, if u cant speak english/chinese u'r gonna have a hard time in the city.
The guy was in the airport for 10 fucking hrs. U guys should try that out next time ur thr. and on top of that , nobody tried to help him with a translator.
AS far as RCMP goes, yes they are accountable, most of the public opinion is against them cause in the inq. they are changing the story.

of course this wont be a issue if it wasn't caught on tape, but does that mean these fucking cops should get away with it?

Jason00S2000 03-03-2009 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by taylor192 (Post 6309766)
Their jobs such, dealing with the worse people in society, those who disrespect them, those who are incapable of reason, ...


Instead of dealing with this with 20th century mentality, let's move into a 21st century mentality.


Let's enact a license to reproduce, and some other measures designed to encourage those type of people to not even be born in the first place.

Less quantity of people, but of a higher quality.

Noir 03-03-2009 10:45 AM

^^^ Whow, slow your role there.


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Originally Posted by tool001 (Post 6309814)
i guess its ok, till it happens close to home,
cops have shitty job, well deal with it, they are trained for it, mentally and physically, to deal with scum, if they have problems, they shouldnt be doing it.

Cops aren't complaining about the nature their work subjects them to. The only complaints existing are the ones arising from people who think they can do a better job of law enforcement than the PD themselves.

Quote:

Originally Posted by tool001 (Post 6309814)
its not about person being killed, its about they using excessive force on a guy who didn't understand a word .

IF i chinese person was in the same situation, a translator will be provided. For fuck sakes they even have immigration exams in CHINESE and other languages. This city is planning to host the games. They just showed, if u cant speak english/chinese u'r gonna have a hard time in the city.
The guy was in the airport for 10 fucking hrs. U guys should try that out next time ur thr. and on top of that , nobody tried to help him with a translator.
AS far as RCMP goes, yes they are accountable, most of the public opinion is against them cause in the inq. they are changing the story.

:drama:

Millions of non-english speaking tourists and immigrants arrive to YVR annually. Whereas some have a pleasant experience, I don't doubt that countless of them also experience extended travel hours, communications frustrations, Customs complications. How many of them die @ YVR each year?

People are spinning this incident as if it's not isolated, it's a common occurrence, and that the police are out of control.


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Originally Posted by tool001 (Post 6309814)
of course this wont be a issue if it wasn't caught on tape, but does that mean these fucking cops should get away with it?

Get away with what? There has been no determination of guilt yet. Innocent until proven guilty remember? Or have all of RS suddenly forgotten the most vital lesson learned in the "ImpactX vs Kspec" thread? Basing it on the "RS consensus of wisdom", until a judge in a court of law has found them legally liable for their actions, these guys are innocent, are they not? :D

Jason00S2000 03-03-2009 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Noir (Post 6309923)
until a judge in a court of law has found them legally liable for their actions, these guys are innocent, are they not? :D


Cops and judges protect their own, they will get 0 punishment for a man they basically murdered.

Noir 03-03-2009 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Jason00S2000 (Post 6309938)
Cops and judges protect their own, they will get 0 punishment for a man they basically murdered.

I think you may have missed the point there.

Jason00S2000 03-03-2009 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Noir (Post 6309960)
I think you may have missed the point there.


I think you may have missed the fact that this was caught on tape.

taylor192 03-03-2009 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Jason00S2000 (Post 6309895)
Let's enact a license to reproduce, and some other measures designed to encourage those type of people to not even be born in the first place.

Less quantity of people, but of a higher quality.

OK Hitler.

Noir 03-03-2009 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Jason00S2000 (Post 6309988)
I think you may have missed the fact that this was caught on tape.

okayyyyy. I guess I have to spell things out a little.

That statement had nothing to with tapes, argument whether the use of tazers were warranted, or dziekanski's death should be considered an accident or murder.

That statement was in reference to this:

I'M SORRY KSPEC, I SHOULDN'T HAVE CALLED YOU A THIEF
http://www.revscene.net/forums/im-so...c-t564633.html

It was an allusion to the determination of guilt. And with the reference above, I'm just using the "RS Standard" of innocent until found guilty by a court of law, as per determined by the thread above. Apparently, it doesn't matter the opinion, doesn't matter how convincing the guilt looks, doesn't matter the evidence behind it. So using this so-called wisdom of RS, these officers are considered innocent by RS Standards.

If people don't like those standards, then everyone must re-evaluate themselves lest they accept being called hypocrites or hypocrites in denial.

taylor192 03-03-2009 11:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tool001 (Post 6309814)
its not about person being killed, its about they using excessive force on a guy who didn't understand a word .

IF i chinese person was in the same situation, a translator will be provided. For fuck sakes they even have immigration exams in CHINESE and other languages. This city is planning to host the games. They just showed, if u cant speak english/chinese u'r gonna have a hard time in the city.

We are kind enough to provide services in other languages besides English/French, yet don't mistake that for "have to" provide these services.

Its not our fault a foreign citizen visits without any knowledge of our languages and without someone to guide them. He's lucky he was not shot, as he would have been at other airports throughout the world in countries without the same standard of policing.

I'll agree the officers used excessive force, I will not agree we should have done more to help him.

unit 03-03-2009 12:00 PM

^hmm... getting shot, or getting tazed for over 30 seconds... honestly, i'll take the bullet.

tool001 03-03-2009 01:08 PM

guys whatever u say,
in the end all have to agree,

dying the way he did is not a good way to go. his last 5-10 hr were miserable. Getting tazzed 5 time in another country where he didnt speak the language. He was gonna meet his mother after no wonder how long.
just not the right way to go.

Mugen EvOlutioN 03-03-2009 01:30 PM

fuck the police

no seriously fuck them



the cop should be tasered to death and see how it feels, tasered 5 times :rolleyes::rolleyes:

stapler as a threat? give me a motherfucknig break, wat are u? 5? jesus christ


next time i bet i will get shot by the cops for having a scissor in my hand as a lethal weapon
:rolleyes::rolleyes:

fucking pigs

Jason00S2000 03-03-2009 01:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mugen EvOlutioN (Post 6310178)
fuck the police

no seriously fuck them



the cop should be tasered to death and see how it feels, tasered 5 times :rolleyes::rolleyes:

stapler as a threat? give me a motherfucknig break, wat are u? 5? jesus christ


next time i bet i will get shot by the cops for having a scissor in my hand as a lethal weapon
:rolleyes::rolleyes:

fucking pigs


I know, I've been more worried about sparring my jiu jitsu buddy than some dorky polak at the airport with a stapler.


Whatever happened to 4 cops just tackling someone? A stapler is NOT a threat. Fucking murdering pigs.


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