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$_$ 03-21-2009 11:07 AM

Why did he deserve to die for this ? No warning shots? Was he SO close that they had to fatally shoot him? I dont understand... its an X-Acto knife for gods sake ..u guys know how big that is ?

its this fucking big ok ...


http://lemurking.files.wordpress.com/2008/03/xacto.jpg

i hate the homeless and addicts as much as anyone else. but i dont think that he desereved to DIE over this ..

StylinRed 03-21-2009 11:11 AM

fuckin VPD should all go to hell

same with most of you here who are rooting for his death (not the ignorant ones making jokes... but maybe)

johny 03-21-2009 11:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MWR34 (Post 6340451)
shot in the leg would have been atleast non-fatal. fuckin moron trigger happy cops.

yah right lest see you hit a 4" wide moving target. and if you miss you are hitting one of the 50 witnesses around. cops are trained to aim and shoot the middle of the body. and the way most cops shoot, they are lucky to hit that.

Supafly 03-21-2009 11:21 AM

anyone came at me with a threat, i will shoot to kill...
Its standard procedure...no matter if its a gun, knife, toy gun, toy knife or a hammer.
A threat is a threat, a baton vs a knife to save my own life and others?...no thanks, i rather use my .45acp

achiam 03-21-2009 11:49 AM

I think cops in Vancouver should just be armed with baseball bats.
If would-be criminals saw a group of 6 cops beating down a drug dealer or punk with baseball bats, it'd be a much better crime deterrent than seeing someone simply shot.

asahai69 03-21-2009 11:53 AM

1 down. a couple thousand more to go

Ohkun 03-21-2009 11:54 AM

who cares,

some car thief bum got shot..

no loss there. good job vpd

shenmecar 03-21-2009 03:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jaguar604 (Post 6339578)
COPS SHOULD HAVE JUST TAZED HIM


........................

"It's unclear whether either officer was carrying a Taser."

Xnova 03-21-2009 05:00 PM

female cop was said to shoot

IMASA 03-21-2009 08:43 PM

It gets better and better.

http://www.news1130.com/more.jsp?con...21_183923_7164

Quote:

Smolcic claims he caught the exchange on his cell phone camera but when police backup arrived, they quickly took it away, deleting the video.
Vancouver Police Chief Jim Chu says they'll look into the destruction of evidence, which they take very seriously.

Volvo-brickster 03-21-2009 08:48 PM

1 = warn the offender, once , loud and clear
2 = bring him down hard. bring him down fast

Amuse 03-21-2009 09:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IMASA (Post 6341405)

haha wow
I guess they didn't want it to get on youtube, like the RCMP Taser in YVR incident. Wasn't there like 50 witnesses? At least one more could have got it on vid.

Amuse 03-21-2009 09:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mugen (Post 6341123)
female cop was said to shoot

Four times

Anjew 03-21-2009 09:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IMASA (Post 6341405)

wow must be slow update hour for news1130 to put up some random dudes claims....



seriously tho... no one knows how he approached the officers... when someone runs at you with a knife or even pencil and you have your hand on your gun... you shoot.

Harvey Specter 03-21-2009 09:25 PM

The cops around here have itchy trigger fingers.

orange7 03-21-2009 09:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by T.H.C (Post 6340746)
Why did he deserve to die for this ? No warning shots? Was he SO close that they had to fatally shoot him? I dont understand... its an X-Acto knife for gods sake ..u guys know how big that is ?

its this fucking big ok ...


http://lemurking.files.wordpress.com/2008/03/xacto.jpg

i hate the homeless and addicts as much as anyone else. but i dont think that he desereved to DIE over this ..

you there obvious never had any kind of security training..

exacto knife can kill ppl, or even worst give the stabbed person AIDS for the rest of his/her life. Now I would much rather die than live the rest of my life with AIDS, or better yet just not risk it and shoot the bum IMO.
Also, do you have any idea how long it takes the cops to pull out their guns (not the ones down their pants) and give a warning? I'll tell you. If the bum, holding a knife that could possible have HIV infect or diseases, was charging full speed at you within 10meters, you're fucked!

Now. let's put yourself into that situation with a bum holding a knife.. it's a tough situation cause what if he throws it, and you get some fuked up disease for the rest of your life..
then gg

orange7 03-21-2009 09:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by achiam (Post 6340787)
I think cops in Vancouver should just be armed with baseball bats.
If would-be criminals saw a group of 6 cops beating down a drug dealer or punk with baseball bats, it'd be a much better crime deterrent than seeing someone simply shot.

um.. that's still a close distance battle.. and the chance for one of the officers to get sliced by the knife (may be infected with diseases) is like 99%..

now i wouldn't risk that.. I mean.. if the bum cooperates and drop the knife, then i'll use bats to get close to the guy.

I've done a workshop where it was 2v1, and the one was holding a marker (in replacement of an actual knife). In the end, the two guys had ink all over their skin and everywhere..
that just proved a point..

coroner-cuts2 03-21-2009 10:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jah Al Zawahiri (Post 6341469)
The cops around here have itchy trigger fingers.


and where are you from and what do you know about cop shootings?????

HollyZ32 03-21-2009 10:18 PM

My dad is a cop for the VPD and he was working when it happend so what happend was....
the two female cops were drivng and a half a block away saw this man breaking into cars ...SOOo they went over there so get him and he started running towards the female cops with a knife and would not stop the gave warning but he didnt stop so thats when the chick cop shot him

coroner-cuts2 03-21-2009 10:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by T.H.C (Post 6340746)
Why did he deserve to die for this ? No warning shots? Was he SO close that they had to fatally shoot him? I dont understand... its an X-Acto knife for gods sake ..u guys know how big that is ?

its this fucking big ok ...


http://lemurking.files.wordpress.com/2008/03/xacto.jpg

i hate the homeless and addicts as much as anyone else. but i dont think that he desereved to DIE over this ..

did you know that a guy with smallest DICK in the world can get a girl pregnant, .........................well................. you give me five seconds with that TINY knife, blade whatever you wanna call it and I could have you bleeding 32 litres of blood on the streets...

your picture and response to this post is garbage................ you should research things and try them out before you say anything.............and the reason why I say this is because i have done that

Harvey Specter 03-21-2009 10:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by coroner-cuts2 (Post 6341533)
did you know that a guy with smallest DICK in the world can get a girl pregnant, .........................well................. you give me five seconds with that TINY knife, blade whatever you wanna call it and I could have you bleeding 32 litres of blood on the streets...

your picture and response to this post is garbage................ you should research things and try them out before you say anything.............and the reason why I say this is because i have done that

Wow, 32 litres? Not 33?

coroner-cuts2 03-21-2009 10:37 PM

for all the people out there who think the cops shouldn't of shot this guy then do this test........................... ORANGE 7 actually also said this

1.) get a unknown person (average) to stand 20 feet away from you with his back towards you
2.) make sure he has two options to chose from, a black marker (represents a knife) and nothing (representing his fist)
3.) you stand their in a normal standing position and let this guy decide when he will charge at you and what he is going to use
4.) if he choses the knife, then defend yourself agaist a little small x acto knife.............. when does he stop??????????????? when he feel like it or until you stop him........
5.) count how many times you are marked with that black marker, that will equal how many times you have been stabbed

now you can all say that not everyone is a cop and we all dont have guns,,,,,,,,,,,,,fair

now put a duty belt on with the following tools...............oc spray,baton, taser and pistol

now in that 5 seconds or less that it takes this guy to run at you full speed....... decide what weapon you are going to use????????

even better.............. the NATIONAL USE OF FORCE MODEL which governs all the force options by police in pretty much north america considers a knife or "sharp edged weapon" to be in the "greavous bodily harm, or death" catagory...............

that means you can use lethal force (because the other tools will not defend you, this is proven)

now in that 2-5 seconds that it takes for a person to charge at you from 20 feet, pull out a gun from a holster (yes you can have all the time you want to practice this)

and take aim (cause you have all the time in the world)

and shoot at his 5 inch leg so that you might disable him...........or better the arm that he is holding the knife in................or better the hand!!!!!!!!! g

I got one word for you then.................................

GOOD LUCK and see you on the other side when your dead!!!

just a little food for thought

coroner-cuts2 03-21-2009 10:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jah Al Zawahiri (Post 6341538)
Wow, 32 litres? Not 33?

maybe its 33, close though, it depends on gravity!!!

Gridlock 03-21-2009 11:09 PM

They use tasers, and people complain. They use guns, and people complain(except some assholes on the forums that forget that homeless are fucking human as well, but I digress)

I have a huge problem with video being deleted. If a police officer asked me to surrender my camera, I would deny it. You can pick up the video on youtube. Search for username, "urfucked".

?NR 03-21-2009 11:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by johny (Post 6340757)
yah right lest see you hit a 4" wide moving target. and if you miss you are hitting one of the 50 witnesses around. cops are trained to aim and shoot the middle of the body. and the way most cops shoot, they are lucky to hit that.

bingo. biggest target would be the torso and 9mm parabellum rounds are designed to bounce around the body after it enters, causing more trauma than simply exiting the body.

and yes, a stray bullet could have a lot of repercussions. (innocent bystanders)


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