Tenant being a bitch, not throwing away garbarge

[cool moe D]

So the tenant at my house leaves a pile of trash (cardboard boxes filled with trash) at the back alley of my house thinking the city (of Vancouver) is going to pick it up and throw it away. I tell him that the city will only take the garbage left in the city garbage bins, you should find a different way to dump that garbage, it aint gonna fit in the trash can. He says okay, he'll clean it up, and 2 weeks later that pile of garbage is still fucking there! I've been complaining and complaining and tonight i finally got fed up and bitched at him and called him a retard and the dirtiest mother fucken tenant ever and now I doubt he'll ever move it. Any remedies? I can't evict him can I? He's not the actual tenant of the contract, hes actually that persons father.

[danned]

police? city workers?

[Shun Izaki]

Ask him to leave, if not, evict. (use whatever authorites you can)

There's been SO many threads regarding bad tenants.

[Graeme S]

Uh, pay to have it removed and bill him?

[CanadaGoose]

Tell him to move the garbage or you're going to ask him to leave.

[achiam]

Tell him the City has warned you and will fine you by X date if it isn't removed, and tell them that you will bill him for the fine and removal fee if they don't remove it by X date.

[StylinRed]

go to the actual tenant...

[El Bastardo]

If hes not the actual tenant and didn't sign the contract then technically hes a trespasser. Contact the tenant, tell him that he either needs to clean his shit up or he (the father) is being banned from the premises.

The tenant will have a right to come back, but the father will not.


It sounds like there is a reason this guy has to have his son sign leases and contracts for him. When you called the references (Goddammit Cool Moe D I hope you called the references) I'll bet you called the son's references and not the father's.

This could be standard behavior for the man who you called a 'retard' and the 'dirtiest mother fucken tenant ever' and you should do a unit inspection.

Give them a formal notice stating that in 24 hours (Schedule a specific time) you will be performing an apartment inspection. Make sure you follow through. They have no legal right to keep you from inspecting the property if you've given the notice (or posted it in a visible place). If they don't answer when you knock, tape it half on the door frame, half on the door so the tape seal will be broken when they open the door. That way a reasonable person/landlord can assume that the notice was received and read.


Check EVERYTHING. Check for damage. Check for odd smells. Check for garbage. Check for cockroaches and bedbugs. If this guy is dirty outside of the unit, chances are hes dirty inside of the unit.



Seriously, it sounds like you have a guy who will be nothing but problems down the road and it would do you good to rid yourself of him now. Theres no shortage of renters in the lower mainland and losing him only means you can get a better one in.






Oh, and one more thing. We also have a Real Estate forum for issues like this so feel free to post future problems or questions in there.

[taylor192]

Originally Posted by cool moe D

tonight i finally got fed up and bitched at him and called him a retard and the dirtiest mother fucken tenant ever and now I doubt he'll ever move it.

Nice job slumlord!

I have tenants renting my place in Ottawa, I budget for their stupidity, you should too. Not every tenant is going to be perfect, some fuck-up, that's life.

My experience so far in BC is that landlords can be much more anal cause of the "damage deposit" renters have to leave. I much prefer the system in Ontario of "last month's rent" that gives more power to renters.

My roommate's last landlord tried to keep his damage deposit cause he didn't steam-clean the carpets - that's seriously anal, the carpets were vacuumed and not stained.

[StylinRed]

Originally Posted by taylor192

Nice job slumlord!

My roommate's last landlord tried to keep his damage deposit cause he didn't steam-clean the carpets - that's seriously anal, the carpets were vacuumed and not stained.

that's why there's renters court

there's supposed to be interest paid back on that damage deposit too when it gets returned

[91civicZC]

I think legally as a tenant you MUST steam clean the carpets when you leave a residence. I’m pretty sure that’s just standard for BC. Regardless, that’s just usually a good fhing to do, helps out the landlord and makes you look good when your looking for a nerw place and need refrences.

Being a renter, I can’t believe the horror stories I hear on here about renters. I generally get really pissed off when landlords get all crazy about checking credit and things. But when I hear crap like this it makes me feel pretty bad for you guys.

Why are all the renters fucking morons? I have rented places on my own since I was 18 (I’m damn near 30 now), my old references are always great, and I general have landlords asking me to stay when I tell them Im going to leave. Where do landlords find the loosers I always hear about here?

As a side note, anyone want to rent me a place for cheap, give me a PM, just found out my current landlord is going to sell the house I’m in. Looks like I gotta move again! HA!

[wouwou]

Originally Posted by taylor192

Nice job slumlord!

I have tenants renting my place in Ottawa, I budget for their stupidity, you should too. Not every tenant is going to be perfect, some fuck-up, that's life.

My experience so far in BC is that landlords can be much more anal cause of the "damage deposit" renters have to leave. I much prefer the system in Ontario of "last month's rent" that gives more power to renters.

My roommate's last landlord tried to keep his damage deposit cause he didn't steam-clean the carpets - that's seriously anal, the carpets were vacuumed and not stained.

you have to steam clean the carpet as long as the previous tenants did that when they left, to restore it back to the "original" state I believe.

and I believe the tenant has a lot more rights than landlords in BC.

[taylor192]

Originally Posted by StylinRed

there's supposed to be interest paid back on that damage deposit too when it gets returned

How many landlords do this? The same was true in Ontario, yet "last month's rent" is double the "damage deposit" in BC, so getting back that interest is doubly important.

[taylor192]

Originally Posted by wouwou

you have to steam clean the carpet as long as the previous tenants did that when they left, to restore it back to the "original" state I believe

Find me that in the BC tenant act.

Original state is relative, its a rental property, its bound to have wear and tear and age. A good landlord factors this into the rental price, that eventually the unit will need cosmetic maintenance.

It seems there's a LOT of condo renters, that are breaking even or even losing money renting, so they cannot afford to lose anymore if the place isn't "original". That's not my problem as a renter, its theirs for making a bad investment and poor financial decision.

[taylor192]

Originally Posted by 91civicZC

I think legally as a tenant you MUST steam clean the carpets when you leave a residence. I’m pretty sure that’s just standard for BC. Regardless, that’s just usually a good fhing to do, helps out the landlord and makes you look good when your looking for a nerw place and need refrences.

"think" and "must" are not 2 words to use in the same sentence. How about you look up the BC Tenant Act then you don't have to "think".

Its standard cause landlords will keep your damage deposit and give you a bad reference. That's a disgusting practice, and as a renter I was much happier when the landlord owed me my last month's rent and had to take me to the tenant tribunal to seek damages, cause the tenant tribunal is much more relaxed than an anal landlord.

[cool moe D]

Originally Posted by taylor192

Nice job slumlord!

What? it's not like im picking on the guy. This guy would just give me a sarcastic "i don't know" whenever i asked him a question like "when are you going to remove the garbage"

I did call the references of the contractual tenant and it checked out ok. THe tenants rent is being paid for by the government (she's a 20something yr old native with 2 babies). I've never had a problem with her. Then a few months after she moved in, I notice this white guy in his late 30s come in, the guy looks like a junkie and starts bringing in all this trash, turns out to be her dad.

At the time he moved in he brought so much trash with him I couldn't understand it. Why the fuck would you bring all that trash with you?? I told him what I told him a few weeks ago, the city isn't going to take your garbage thats not in the bins. So I ended up having to load all his garbage on my car and bring it to the dump myself because he doesn't have a car. A couple of months later he seems to have moved out or maybe he went to jail, I don't know. And suddenly a month ago he comes back and does the same shit.

And he smokes in the fucken house!!

So now my question is, if I were to give him an eviction notice, under what grounds should a put on the notice? How much time do i need to give him to pack up and leave? And if he's stubborn and won't leave do I call the cops?

[wouwou]

Originally Posted by taylor192

Find me that in the BC tenant act.

Original state is relative, its a rental property, its bound to have wear and tear and age. A good landlord factors this into the rental price, that eventually the unit will need cosmetic maintenance.

It seems there's a LOT of condo renters, that are breaking even or even losing money renting, so they cannot afford to lose anymore if the place isn't "original". That's not my problem as a renter, its theirs for making a bad investment and poor financial decision.

I agree that there will always be reasonable wear and tear in daily usage, therefore landlords can not claim that the unit needs a "new carpet" after 1 year of rental relationship.

HOWEVER, if the tenant and the landlord did an inspection and has a condition report prior to move in, and if the landlord stated clearly that the carpets were "steam cleaned" prior to move in, the tenant will have to do the same to the best as he can.

Section 23, 24 and 36 deals with condition reports and the consequences, if you are interested.

[wouwou]

Originally Posted by taylor192

"think" and "must" are not 2 words to use in the same sentence. How about you look up the BC Tenant Act then you don't have to "think".

Its standard cause landlords will keep your damage deposit and give you a bad reference. That's a disgusting practice, and as a renter I was much happier when the landlord owed me my last month's rent and had to take me to the tenant tribunal to seek damages, cause the tenant tribunal is much more relaxed than an anal landlord.

http://www.rto.gov.bc.ca/documents/GL01.pdf

there is no think or must, but there is a "generally" on the 2nd page of this tenancy act document, right before "the tenant will be held responsible for steam cleaning or shampooing the carpets after a tenancy of one year."

[taylor192]

Originally Posted by wouwou

there is no think or must, but there is a "generally" on the 2nd page of this tenancy act document, right before "the tenant will be held responsible for steam cleaning or shampooing the carpets after a tenancy of one year."

Wow, BC is anal.

I'd laugh that "generally" and "may" all the way to court. I don't have a pet and don't smoke, I don't plan to steam clean the carpets.

[wouwou]

Originally Posted by taylor192

Wow, BC is anal.

I'd laugh that "generally" and "may" all the way to court. I don't have a pet and don't smoke, I don't plan to steam clean the carpets.

try being a landlord in BC, and you will see what anal really means.

99% of the time the landlord is stuck with the bills beyond the half month deposit for damages caused by fucked up tenant.

Then again, I blame the landlords for not screening properly.

[taylor192]

Originally Posted by wouwou

try being a landlord in BC, and you will see what anal really means.

99% of the time the landlord is stuck with the bills beyond the half month deposit for damages caused by fucked up tenant.

Then again, I blame the landlords for not screening properly.

Try being a landlord in Quebec, where if you have a bad tenant they are virtually impossible to get rid of.

There cannot be that many bad renters out here? I do know if my landlord threatened to keep my damage deposit, that would affect how clean I left the place. If I'm getting billed, I might as well make it worth it!

[wouwou]

Originally Posted by taylor192

Try being a landlord in Quebec, where if you have a bad tenant they are virtually impossible to get rid of.

There cannot be that many bad renters out here? I do know if my landlord threatened to keep my damage deposit, that would affect how clean I left the place. If I'm getting billed, I might as well make it worth it!

it is also very difficult to get rid of a bad tenant here. In generally, screen properly.

And for OP, I really dont want to say anything to spook you, but don't over push that fucker or he might decide to pour cement down your drain.

HOW THAT WILL REALLY FUCK YOU UP.

[91civicZC]

Originally Posted by taylor192

"think" and "must" are not 2 words to use in the same sentence. How about you look up the BC Tenant Act then you don't have to "think".

Its standard cause landlords will keep your damage deposit and give you a bad reference. That's a disgusting practice, and as a renter I was much happier when the landlord owed me my last month's rent and had to take me to the tenant tribunal to seek damages, cause the tenant tribunal is much more relaxed than an anal landlord.

EDIT I actually edited this because I called you names, and that wasn’t very nice of me. lol

Friendly conversation, you want to jump in all Agro!

Why is my think in quotations, are you implying I am not really thinking? Or that by “thinking” I actually mean something else?

I don’t have to go look it up, its right there thanks to wouwou. I guessed as Mr renter guy, you would have read your rental agreements you sign. Apparently not.

Good Job, and welcome to BC. Please leave if you don’t like it.

[taylor192]

Originally Posted by 91civicZC

Wow, your pretty much a douche bag huh? Friendly conversation, you want to jump in all Agro!

Why is my think in quotations, are you implying I am not really thinking? Or that by “thinking” I actually mean something else?

I don’t have to go look it up, its right there thanks to wouwou. I guessed as Mr renter guy, you would have read your rental agreements you sign. Apparently not.

Good Job, and welcome to BC. Please leave if you don’t like it.

You were assuming, not thinking, and the old saying is true "when you assume, you make an ASS out of yoU and ME".

Glad someone else did your homework for you, yet as wouwou pointed out, you "generally" and "may", not "MUST". It sucks to BOLDly shout comments only to end up WRONG.

I did read my real agreements, why do you think I asked for you to find it, cause I knew its not there. There's nothing in the agreement that says I MUST steam clean carpets, so if you're a landlord and ignorantly assumed that, consider yourself well-informed now.

Now please stop giving out incorrect information and the conversation and return to friendly information, rather than ignorant misinformation.

[iEatClams]

Originally Posted by taylor192

It seems there's a LOT of condo renters, that are breaking even or even losing money renting, so they cannot afford to lose anymore if the place isn't "original". That's not my problem as a renter, its theirs for making a bad investment and poor financial decision.

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