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Old 04-24-2009, 02:03 PM   #26
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I'd thought to have a laugh before I point out the hypocrisy in your post.

If you weren't being the asshole who thinks they are clever with the law and giving the officer a hard time, do you really think he would do the same to you? Think about it. If you give the officer a hard time, what makes you think he won't do the same to you? Because it is your right? Well, it is HIS right to give you the ticket.

Abusing power? How about just being stupid and pushing the officers hand. Do you know how many shady people officers have to deal with on a daily basis? Do you really want to add to that and cause the officer to have even more suspicion?
your an idiot....officers choose to take that job..with all the corruption and bs going around I will make sure to flex my rights. You are all idiots if you just bend over and get ****** by cops everyday. I guess you don't need sex cause you enjoy how cops r*pe you.
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Consider yourself warned. Any more outbursts like that will get you banned immediately. I'm sorry your life experience with Law Enforcement has been so unpleasant. Based on your posting, maybe your attitude has something to do with your experience?
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your an idiot....officers choose to take that job..with all the corruption and bs going around I will make sure to flex my rights. You are all idiots if you just bend over and get ****** by cops everyday. I guess you don't need sex cause you enjoy how cops r*pe you.
So you're going to revert to insults instead of making an argument. Nice. Good job there Chief.

I suppose I can't really blame you. It's not like you chose to break some law so the officer is issuing you a ticket. No, it can't be that! It has to be because all cops are corrupt and issue tickets to flex their ego.

Instead of accepting responsibility, I'm going to go and flex what little knowledge I have about Canadian history and Canadian law to show that officer up! My grand father fought for those rights and despite me having nothing to do with that, I'll use that as a front and pretend like I had some part in this achievement! That'll teach him! That'll teach all those corrupt officers! I get a ticket and he walks away with a good story. That'll teach him for next time!

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what if i had a baseball bat in shotgun but i also have a baseball.. is that cool?
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well if you shot the shotgun, you'd prolly splinter off the bat and end up with a body like a porcupine.
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well if you shot the shotgun, you'd prolly splinter off the bat and end up with a body like a porcupine.
I think he meant "shotgun" as in the baseball bat is in the passenger seat/area. I had to reread it a second time to figure it out.
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As one of my instructors always said, "What if monkeys flew out my ass?" You can ask the "what if" questions all day long, always thinking up some sort of new scenario. Use your head/common sense.
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So you're going to revert to insults instead of making an argument. Nice. Good job there Chief.

I suppose I can't really blame you. It's not like you chose to break some law so the officer is issuing you a ticket. No, it can't be that! It has to be because all cops are corrupt and issue tickets to flex their ego.

Instead of accepting responsibility, I'm going to go and flex what little knowledge I have about Canadian history and Canadian law to show that officer up! My grand father fought for those rights and despite me having nothing to do with that, I'll use that as a front and pretend like I had some part in this achievement! That'll teach him! That'll teach all those corrupt officers! I get a ticket and he walks away with a good story. That'll teach him for next time!

You again fail to see my point. I am not going to let a cop take advantage break the law. Cops do it everyday. I know my rights, what is right and what is wrong. Just because I want to follow the law to an absolute tee, an officer can bend the rules to try and charge me? If you don't deserve a ticket you dont deserve it. A cop is suppose to uphold and enforce the law, not look for clever ways around it. I am always on defense when dealing with a cop, because they are supposed to issue tickets. I will not allow an officer to violate my rights just to make his job easier.
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I believe attitude counts when determining if someone "deserves" a ticket. There's a lot of grey area in the way the laws are written, so when it comes down to the officers interpretation of the law, and you're busy being an ass and trying to make his job difficult, the officer is much more likely to give you a ticket if what you are doing illegally falls into a grey area.
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A cop is suppose to uphold and enforce the law, not look for clever ways around it.
Sometimes, the law GIVES us "clever" ways to achieve things that people might assume we shouldn't be doing.

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I am always on defense when dealing with a cop, because they are supposed to issue tickets. I will not allow an officer to violate my rights just to make his job easier.
Thankfully, we are supposed to, and do more than just issue tickets. The job would become quite monotonous very quickly, I imagine, if all we were supposed to do was issue tickets.

As for not allowing a police officer to "violate your rights", I hope you're up to date on all the BC statutes, Criminal Code and all the case law that would let you know exactly what those rights are in various situations. That is a lot of information for the average person who isn't dealing with them every day to know. We prefer when people aren't obstructing us carrying out our duties and obligations. Less of a head-ache, and less time wasted.
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You again fail to see my point. I am not going to let a cop take advantage break the law. Cops do it everyday. I know my rights, what is right and what is wrong. Just because I want to follow the law to an absolute tee, an officer can bend the rules to try and charge me? If you don't deserve a ticket you dont deserve it. A cop is suppose to uphold and enforce the law, not look for clever ways around it. I am always on defense when dealing with a cop, because they are supposed to issue tickets. I will not allow an officer to violate my rights just to make his job easier.


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"apparently" I can walk down the street with my non-restricted firearm fully exposed (with a locking cable through it) while walking to the range (with all my legal papers/license). Now, will I do that? HELL NO, as I'm not an idiot and people are going to call the police stating there is a guy with a "gun" walking by their house. yeah that will be fun...

now what would you police officers do in this situation? the non-restricted firearm is visible and the guy is just an idiot for not carrying it in a concealed case. i don't think you would confiscate it... or would you?
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dont really post much here.. but damn you are annoying mod.

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I'd thought to have a laugh before I point out the hypocrisy in your post.

If you weren't being the asshole who thinks they are clever with the law and giving the officer a hard time, do you really think he would do the same to you? Think about it. If you give the officer a hard time, what makes you think he won't do the same to you? Because it is your right? Well, it is HIS right to give you the ticket.

Abusing power? How about just being stupid and pushing the officers hand. Do you know how many shady people officers have to deal with on a daily basis? Do you really want to add to that and cause the officer to have even more suspicion?
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Pro-tip: Always remember to hide your weapons out of plain site. Because self-defense isn't a good reason to carry a 12 guage in your 4runner.
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Yes, I'm going to grow up when I'm saying follow the law instead of breaking it and being a douchebag about it.

Yes. I'll be the one who needs to grow up.
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"apparently" I can walk down the street with my non-restricted firearm fully exposed (with a locking cable through it) while walking to the range (with all my legal papers/license). Now, will I do that? HELL NO, as I'm not an idiot and people are going to call the police stating there is a guy with a "gun" walking by their house. yeah that will be fun...

now what would you police officers do in this situation? the non-restricted firearm is visible and the guy is just an idiot for not carrying it in a concealed case. i don't think you would confiscate it... or would you?
Yes, in the word of the law it is legal to do this, but it is stupid to do this. If we are getting a call for this I would guarantee the call would be "there is a guy on the street with a gun" and not "there is a guy walking down the street with a non-restricted firearm with a trigger lock and all of the appropriate documentation." Because of the information we receive, I would be treating it as a live firearm and would be detaining him at gunpoint for public safety and my safety and determining the legalities of it after he is in handcuffs and I have ensured the weapon is secure.

After it was determined to be secure then I would have some decisions to make. I would most likely seize the firearm just in public interest as it is not normal to carry a gun down the street and if he would like it back, he could go through the proper channels to get it back. I'm sure a bunch of you are going to say that I am over-stepping my boundaries by seizing the firearm, but I would rather over-step my boundaries than see the headline in the paper the next day, "Man goes on shooting spree after Mountie sees him walking down the street carrying a gun!"

And to Stutter, if you are already pulled over for whatever reason the officer isn't "bending the rules" to charge you. You were obviously pulled over for committing a driving offence and you just made his decision regarding a ticket or a warning a lot easier. It is hard to drive a single block without seeing numerous driving offences, there are enough real ones that we don't need to make up fake ones.
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You again fail to see my point. I am not going to let a cop take advantage break the law. Cops do it everyday. I know my rights, what is right and what is wrong. Just because I want to follow the law to an absolute tee, an officer can bend the rules to try and charge me? If you don't deserve a ticket you dont deserve it. A cop is suppose to uphold and enforce the law, not look for clever ways around it. I am always on defense when dealing with a cop, because they are supposed to issue tickets. I will not allow an officer to violate my rights just to make his job easier.
I just don't get it. If you were a police officer, and you asked someone if you could look in their trunk and they said no, wouldn't that raise alarm bells in your head?

And seeing that you want to follow the law to an absolute tee, I assume that you never exceed 50km/h on city streets.
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I just don't get it. If you were a police officer, and you asked someone if you could look in their trunk and they said no, wouldn't that raise alarm bells in your head?
yeah it would probably concern the police officer. but for all he knows, the guy could have gay porn in his trunk, he's just too embarrassed to say so. think of the most embarrassing thing you could put in your trunk.. like a blow up doll, a collection of fleshlights, a sculpture of a poo, something embarrassing, do you really want to have to show the police officer this item, just because he has a hunch you might have bricks of 'caine in there? These laws are in place to protect our privacy.

ok for the sake of argument (and i love a good argument LOL), lets say you're OKAY with the officers opening your trunk and humiliating you by bursting out into laughter, since you like to live your life open-book and the attention the officers give you. Do you think searching your personal stuff should be limited to cars? What about searching your wife/mother/daughter's body? What about searching your body?!

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I just don't get it. If you were a police officer, and you asked someone if you could look in their trunk and they said no, wouldn't that raise alarm bells in your head?

And seeing that you want to follow the law to an absolute tee, I assume that you never exceed 50km/h on city streets.
Well if I was an officer, I would do what I was trained to do. Use my instinct and act within the law. So what if I feel uncomfortable, thats part of the job. Thats why I get paid to do my job. You dont become a cop because its the safest job in the world. I wouldn't let an officer break the law just because its easier for him. Just because a cop asks me to see my trunk does not allow him access. I will gladly tell him no. A cop should not have to violate my rights inorder to make himself feel more comfortable. If an officer feels that he needs to break the law to do his job, he should not be in a cop. Lets take the scenario of the polish immigrant being tasered by RCMP. Should I then violate and brake the law when coming into contact with an RCMP officer due to me not feeling comfortable in their presence? Time and time again, its surfacing that yes, officers break the law repeatedly.

Who gives dam if it raises alarm bells. Just because I wont bend over and take it up the *** like most people on here, doesn't make me the bad guy. I am innocent until proven guilty. Unfortauntely most officers stereotype and will catorgize you in the first few seconds of seeing you.

With the mindset that most people have replied to my post, I guess we should allow racial profiling and ethnic profiling. Our laws were meant to protect us. The police are there to "serve and protect". They uphold the law, not create new laws on the spot to make their job easier. Cops have to prove their charges. That is why so many cases get tossed out, due to poor police work. If a the rules were not followed, or evidence was not gather correctly, the case is tossed out. We live in Canada, not some 3rd world kangaroo court.

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And to Stutter, if you are already pulled over for whatever reason the officer isn't "bending the rules" to charge you. You were obviously pulled over for committing a driving offence and you just made his decision regarding a ticket or a warning a lot easier. It is hard to drive a single block without seeing numerous driving offences, there are enough real ones that we don't need to make up fake ones.
First off Five-Oh, if I was pulled over for a traffic violation, and show no signs of intoxication or any other visable violations or weapons, does the officer have the rights to search myself, or my vehicle. I think not. I should be issued a ticket and be on my way. But many people here think that if the officer gets a funny feeling or maybe wants to just be a dick and search my vehicle, I should let him. Why should I allow my time to be wasted and my rights be violated just because a cop has a hunch?

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