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Nightwalker 05-12-2009 11:29 PM

NDP dominates Vancouver Island
 
http://www.timescolonist.com/news/bc...316/story.html

Can anyone explain why?

WTF?

Fleemer 05-12-2009 11:42 PM

people are stupid.

Victoria SiR 05-13-2009 05:44 AM

Vancouver Island, lots of Pot.

LOTS!

Great68 05-13-2009 06:31 AM

"Liberal leader Gordon Campbell spent mere hours on the Island and made no major promises for the region, leading to suggestions his party ignored the Island in favour of the vote-rich Lower Mainland.

Campbell’s cursory attention played directly into the NDP strategy of stoking resentment among Islanders who felt ignored by a Liberal government — a tune the party played from writ drop to election day."


There's a big reason right there.

Striker RS 05-13-2009 07:33 AM

probably because they don't want to see the province sold off

ostampflee 05-13-2009 07:49 AM

Nah, they're typical dumbass Canadians who like to spend more than they can pay for.

Carole James FTL.

Enraged 05-13-2009 08:16 AM

I couldn't believe how many people I know didn't vote, or just plain didn't care... but they sure start caring when they want or lose something from the government...

m1ataman 05-13-2009 08:21 AM

Campbell only needed the Vancouver voters. That's where he's always concentrated anyway. He's always screwed over the rest of the province for their benefit.

danny_d19 05-13-2009 08:28 AM

there was an election?

ChrisStang 05-13-2009 09:50 AM

Island is generally a strong point for the NDP. Lots of saw mills, paper mills, big unions now mostly out of work and needing gov't handouts. Also lots of gov't employees, Universities, and old people needing health care.

If you need to suckle off the public teet, Vancouver Island is for you. Truth be told though I am a public sector employee. Just an odd kind that works well in excess of the hours I get paid for, and I bust my ass every day I'm at work.

achiam 05-13-2009 10:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ostampflee (Post 6421645)
Nah, they're typical dumbass Canadians who like to spend more than they can pay for.

Carole James FTL.

BINGO!
Its like a guy living paycheque to paycheque suddenly getting approved for a credit card and buying shit, assuming that things will start to look up and that he can afford to pay the interest, or falling for those electronic stores that offer financing on TVs.

h0tSX 05-13-2009 12:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by achiam (Post 6421805)
BINGO!
Its like a guy living paycheque to paycheque suddenly getting approved for a credit card and buying shit, assuming that things will start to look up and that he can afford to pay the interest, or falling for those electronic stores that offer financing on TVs.

Nice try numb nuts, but not quite. Countries go into defecit all the time for social infrastructure. Just because the checkbook is balanced doesn't mean all is well. The Liberals are spending tons of money on total bullshit(mostly themselves), then selling off our good and plenty to the private sector so that when election time comes, morons like yourself buy into the whole, well, we're in the black, they must be doing it right!

Hondatech 05-13-2009 01:18 PM

Interestingly, I went through the results, and found 8(!) ridings where the NDP would have won, if people who voted Green party had voted NDP. Those 8 riding woulda made for an NDP victory. Gord should send Jane Sterk a thank you card ;)

Great68 05-13-2009 01:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by m1ataman (Post 6421685)
Campbell only needed the Vancouver voters. That's where he's always concentrated anyway. He's always screwed over the rest of the province for their benefit.

You can't deny that the majority of infrastructure spending in the prior years and future has gone and is going towards the lower mainland region.

- Golden ears bridge
- Canada (RAV) Line
- Olympics Venues
- South Fraser perimeter road
- Port Mann twinning
- Evergreen Line
- Sea to Sky

Now I haven't been living on the island very long, but I doubt that there have been any projects here in the past 8 years that have been even close to 1/10th the cumulative costs of those projects on the mainland.

You'd think that for all that, we could at least get a train to Duncan a la west coast express style.

eurochevy 05-13-2009 01:44 PM

its because vancouver island is only full of old ppl ..and old ppl love the NDP

Enraged 05-13-2009 02:29 PM

There are a few projects on the go I know of, including overpasses on the Pat Bay for the airport turnoff, and an overpass at Mackenzie and Hwy 1. Might not be huge, but better than nothing.

Now if only they could put an overpass at Beacon, Sayward, and Haliburton, we could have an actual highway...

projectcivic 05-13-2009 02:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChrisStang (Post 6421774)
Island is generally a strong point for the NDP. Lots of saw mills, paper mills, big unions now mostly out of work and needing gov't handouts. Also lots of gov't employees, Universities, and old people needing health care.

If you need to suckle off the public teet, Vancouver Island is for you. Truth be told though I am a public sector employee. Just an odd kind that works well in excess of the hours I get paid for, and I bust my ass every day I'm at work.

That is exactly my opinion on why the island is always so much NDP. I maybe completly off here but from my obversation, that majority of the people I have met who were voting NDP where either exactly like you said or they were very left wing thinking but didn't want to waste a vote on the green.

Black SC2 05-13-2009 10:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by projectcivic (Post 6422074)
That is exactly my opinion on why the island is always so much NDP. I maybe completly off here but from my obversation, that majority of the people I have met who were voting NDP where either exactly like you said or they were very left wing thinking but didn't want to waste a vote on the green.

You and Chris hit the nail right on the head with regards to the original post.

Synaptik 05-13-2009 11:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Great68 (Post 6421986)
You can't deny that the majority of infrastructure spending in the prior years and future has gone and is going towards the lower mainland region.

- Golden ears bridge
- Canada (RAV) Line
- Olympics Venues
- South Fraser perimeter road
- Port Mann twinning
- Evergreen Line
- Sea to Sky

Now I haven't been living on the island very long, but I doubt that there have been any projects here in the past 8 years that have been even close to 1/10th the cumulative costs of those projects on the mainland.

You'd think that for all that, we could at least get a train to Duncan a la west coast express style.

no offense man, but victoria has less people than delta. lower mainland is the focus because thats where the voters are and where all the taxes are coming from. same idea with the national elections...he who wins ontario wins the top post.

jigga250 05-13-2009 11:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Synaptik (Post 6422713)
no offense man, but victoria has less people than delta. lower mainland is the focus because thats where the voters are and where all the taxes are coming from. same idea with the national elections...he who wins ontario wins the top post.

maybe the CITY of Victoria, but thats only because its a tiny municipality. The capital region (which is what people would consider to be Victoria) is almost 4x the population of Delta.

Gridlock 05-15-2009 10:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jigga250 (Post 6422720)
maybe the CITY of Victoria, but thats only because its a tiny municipality. The capital region (which is what people would consider to be Victoria) is almost 4x the population of Delta.

And that gives you...equivalent to New Westminster?

You also have to consider that we aren't buying stuff because its nice, but making investments for growth. Traditionally, the island is not a growth region.

Eventually, the NDP will form a government. I would suspect that Campbell will not finish his term. He will step down in 2-3 years and his successor will have a year as unelected premier to get his name in the paper. By that time, the economy will be improving to pre-apocalyptic levels. People will feel comfortable in voting NDP. Those of us that don't belong to unions, own a small business or are less than 50 will hang our collective heads in shame and can only sit by and watch the show.

But the important part is, the base that elected the premier will shift from the lower mainland to the island. All the poor and disadvantaged people will get their handouts and expenditures in the lower mainland and low and behold, the island will get a train and some bridges and some other toys to make voting NDP worthwhile.

ostampflee 05-15-2009 10:18 AM

Historically, BC has generally voted moderate-right... the 90s were odd and we learnt our lesson the hardway about what left-socialism does.

Heath care, cheap tuition, tree hugging, and shit is great when we have jobs... but the NDP will simply drive out business and we'll have 9%+ unemployment again.

MR_BIGGS 05-15-2009 10:26 AM

Because of all the mills closed down in on the islands??

Fleemer 05-15-2009 10:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ostampflee (Post 6424580)
Historically, BC has generally voted moderate-right... the 90s were odd and we learnt our lesson the hardway about what left-socialism does.

Heath care, cheap tuition, tree hugging, and shit is great when we have jobs... but the NDP will simply drive out business and we'll have 9%+ unemployment again.

I already don't have a job(one that doesn't pay minimum anyway) and tuition is inflating at twice the rate as inflation.

But I'm one of the supporters that thinks throwing money at this recession is a stupid idea NPD wants to spend money thinking it will help. I think we should just suck it up, tuff it out and wait it out. Besides, its not that bad here as it is in the states.

But as it stands, all our goverment parties suck, just pick the one that sucks the least and will do the least harm right now. They can make as many promises as they want long term, but in reality, their terms are only a few years rather then 10 or so, so its hard to acutally follow a plan through when stuff changes ALL the time. But thats life.

Enraged 05-15-2009 01:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fleemer (Post 6424592)
just pick the one that sucks the least and will do the least harm right now.

thats how i voted


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