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Old 05-27-2009, 11:16 AM   #51
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No i think he meant its not a criminal offense and not charge-able because the child was taught at home
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Old 05-27-2009, 12:01 PM   #52
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No i think he meant its not a criminal offense and not charge-able because the child was taught at home
I know that. But my questions lies along the lines more of, "should it be acceptable, despite there being no technical errors?"
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Old 05-27-2009, 12:52 PM   #54
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am i the only one who finds it more messed up that they're taking the child away from her parents because of racism?
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Old 05-27-2009, 04:42 PM   #55
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I acknowledge that this is completely effed up.

but i think the father has a point. it is his right to teach whatever the hell he wants to the child. even if it is this racist bs.

it is a free country.
ie. i can go out on robson street and walk up and down with a sign that says, "I hate chinese people" and that is my right.

I'm not saying this is proper or should be done. but it is our right to do whatever we want...
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Old 05-27-2009, 11:30 PM   #56
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Maybe the father is an Edmonton Swastikas fan?


circa 1916.


But, yeah, in all seriousness, that's scary.

PS....for those that do not know, the swastika is an ancient symbol for prosperity, and if you reverse the symbol, it is the symbol for a Buddhist shrine in Japan.
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Old 05-28-2009, 02:32 AM   #57
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Oh wait racism. Umm...

Well in Canada, especially lower mainland BC, there is really a shift in demographics with obvious increases in Asian population.

While I can't paint everyone with the same brush, multiculturalism does not work. We claim to have it in Vancouver but there are clearly areas that are littered with specific ethnic groups. We still have borders, we've just made them all within driving distance.

The fastest way from India to China is the Alex Fraser Bridge for example.

I believe in a melting pot for all countries. I think people who come to Canada should conform to Canada's language and system. I believe any Canadian going to Russia or China or India or wherever else to do the same.
What's the diff between multiculturism and a melting pot anyway? And I'm not talking about the idealistic book definition. The Spanish billboards along the freeways in Cali.. is that an example of a melting pot? Miami (a Spanish speaking city), Harlem.. melting pots? Don't those 2 ideas on paper turn into the same thing in practice?

What a govt in a free country calls their immigration policy is pretty irrelevant, IMO. What comes out is essentially the same: People are free to do what they want within the constraints of their socio-economic situation.
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Old 05-28-2009, 08:37 PM   #58
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am i the only one who finds it more messed up that they're taking the child away from her parents because of racism?
Yeah, what a shame. Parents demonstrate that they can't look out for the best interests of their child, and they get the kid taken away. Oh, my heart is bleeding.

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I acknowledge that this is completely effed up.

but i think the father has a point. it is his right to teach whatever the hell he wants to the child. even if it is this racist bs.

it is a free country.
ie. i can go out on robson street and walk up and down with a sign that says, "I hate chinese people" and that is my right.

I'm not saying this is proper or should be done. but it is our right to do whatever we want...
Yes, you have the right to do whatever you want (well, not really, but lets say you do for arguments sake).

The problem here is that a child is a seperate entity from the parent. People need to get it out of their head that children are their properties to fuck up however they want. Someone chooses to be an ignorant fucktard? Sad, but whatever. Someone wants to indoctrinate a child with a belief system that basically makes them unable to properly function in facets of society? Yeah, kind of a problem


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How do you determine what aspect of a culture is permissable or not?

Most cultures are very chauvanistic, is that as bad as racism? If so, why or why not?
What is permissible? Whatever doesn't actually infringe on others in a substantial way. Someone mumbling to themselves? Who gives a shit. Someone putting a massive effort into subverting peoples opinions towards harming others? Big deal.

For chauvinism, look at parallel situations. Who actually goes to court for racist beliefs? People that distribute or broadcast beliefs that a certain race should be treated like shit, outcast, or killed. So if someone was making websites that tried to influence people to take away womens votes, force them to be sex slaves, or just flat out kill them, yeah, that should obviously be an issue, and it quite often has. There's been shitloads of lawsuits and human rights tribunals based on sexism.
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How do you determine what aspect of a culture is permissable or not?

Most cultures are very chauvanistic, is that as bad as racism? If so, why or why not?
I can not determine what aspect of a culture is permissible or not, as I do not create our law. However, in my point of view, I would say that it is one's freedom to "hate" a race or a culture in their mind, but he or she may be in breach with hate crime laws if they perform such hatred with speach, writing, and etc.
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Old 05-28-2009, 11:58 PM   #63
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forrr sho.

I hate Filipino people.



OT: I don't see the problem here.

She hates black people. oh noes. How does this affect me? It doesn't. Why should I give a shit? If I went and said "I FUCKING LOVE BLACK PEOPLE" then oh shit should the peeps that hate black people should have me arrested?



Some people need to watch more South Park. tolerance.
It's hardly a case of tolerance here. The kid's seven-fucking-years old. SEVEN. I was busy fucking up my parents' walls with a box of crayons when I was seven. Instead of teaching her to hate people she knows jack shit about, people should be beating her ass and potty training her.

If she grows up and decides to hate black people based on whatever reason it is, then nobody should give a shit.

My grandparents hate the shit out of Japanese people even though my grandfather never actually fought in the war and my grandmother has likely never encountered a Japanese for the last four decades. But they have their reasons; and even then they've never spoken of wishing death upon the Japanese for pillaging their towns and raping their women. A 7 year old should have no reason to be bestowing death wishes unless she was raped by a negro.

That's like me wishing death upon your family because somebody told me homosexuality is wrong, and that ww? is a homo loving jizz guzzling jew.
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Old 05-28-2009, 11:59 PM   #64
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Old 05-29-2009, 12:36 PM   #66
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Canada have it's own culture ? Since when. Canada was pretty much started by a couple different cultures as people immagrated over here. I think true Canadian culture is being able to enjoy mutiple cultures.
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Old 05-29-2009, 12:43 PM   #67
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Beat her, beat her parents, beat her family. Messed up.
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The question here is, what is the canadian national unity / culture?

this country was founded for just less than two centuries, what culture we could possibly have here? is it hockey games, beavers or reality shows bought from the states?

Face the fact, canadians have no decent cultures.
Wow, that's one big insult right there. Canadian culture would have been what was here when the country was more homogeneous. Before the effects of the multiculturalism agenda in government fractured our major cities into quasi ethnic tribes.

I find it pretty ignorant to just insult the country, and people who call this their one and only home, void of culture. Maybe it is now. Doesn't mean it was.
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