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The John Norwich Riders Corner In honour of our fellow moderator: John Norwich R.I.P. September 17th, 2014
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Old 07-20-2011, 04:25 PM   #126
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Old 07-20-2011, 05:13 PM   #127
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Don't forget to factor in taxes even though it's a used bike. HST on $4000 is still several hundred dollars.

At 6'2 you might be more comfortable riding a bigger bike. Have you considered looking at a SV650S? Its has a decent seat height and more of an upright riding position which is more beginner friendly. If you opt for a newer one ABS is also an option! A lot of options on CL too.
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^+1 on the SV650. The V-twin has a linear power curve so you don't have to rev to 10k+rpm to get power, much more usable in the city. On the newer models, ABS is actually standard

Having said that, learning curve is much better starting off a 250. I strongly suggest buying used...I bought my Ninja 250 brand new for almost 6k OTD (I bought their theft protection package...what a waste!) and I moved up to my SV650 after just 3 months.
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Yea if i do go the 250-600 route then definately itll be a used 250.

Ive actually got my eyes on this ad, what do u guys think
2005 Yamaha R6 - Nice Bike

I hit him up with an email, he told me he dropped it at about 10k kms, has bout
32k now. Also paint is a bit chipped here and there.

Still, its only $4200, probably could get it down to 4k with a bit of lowballing , but then insurance still doubles.
That bike looks pretty fucked if u ask me. Wouldn't buy it... "flat black" lmao covering all the scratches from lowsides he's not mentioning in the ad.

Email the guy, see if he's honest about damage, then consider it if it's worth while, I guess.
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it does look pretty beat up from those pics. might be the quality of the camera though. but definitely don't buy the first bike you see. don't rush it.

look at a BUNCH of bikes and get an idea what you're looking for and for price comparison. you will end up getting a better bike for a better price and at the end, you'll feel better about your purchase.

its always AFTER you buy the bike when all these what-if questions come in. shop around.

and if you do buy private, once you have your eyes set on the bike, make them ride it to a shop and you can pay for a pre-inspection. and if its all good, then you can buy it from there. some tips also, if its a newer bike, make sure there's no lien on it and you can always pay a bit to do a VIN check to make sure its a clean title.

it might be a steal of a price for a bike, but the damages will may end up costing you more if you're not careful.
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Im in no rush to buy, just want to keep an eye out for any steal of the deals.

Im thinking of a R6 or a CBR600RR, any known faults or issues to look out for?

Also, ive decided to go for the 600cc starter bike, i know that if anything goes wrong i might kill myself, but i think that if i can be extremely careful and mature about owning the 600cc, then all is well. I wont cheap out on gear or anything, will be taking PRS in 2012 spring, but should i get theft and collision for the insurance?

I have now till winter-ish to look for a bike, so no hurry whatsoever.

Edit: what do you guys think of this one? http://vancouver.en.craigslist.ca/rd...485737462.html

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Im in no rush to buy, just want to keep an eye out for any steal of the deals.

Im thinking of a R6 or a CBR600RR, any known faults or issues to look out for?

Also, ive decided to go for the 600cc starter bike, i know that if anything goes wrong i might kill myself, but i think that if i can be extremely careful and mature about owning the 600cc, then all is well. I wont cheap out on gear or anything, will be taking PRS in 2012 spring, but should i get theft and collision for the insurance?

I have now till winter-ish to look for a bike, so no hurry whatsoever.
Why don't you take PRS this summer, get your MST over with and start looking for a bike?

Not too much can go wrong with the jap 600's mechanically, imo.. but it'd be smart to google "common issues with [model & year of bike]". A bunch of forum threads will probably result in some good info.
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Why don't you take PRS this summer, get your MST over with and start looking for a bike?

Not too much can go wrong with the jap 600's mechanically, imo.. but it'd be smart to google "common issues with [model & year of bike]". A bunch of forum threads will probably result in some good info.
highly suggest this. if you can get your MST over with at the end of summer, you have all winter to look and research for bikes. so by spring or early summer, you can buy a bike and get your full Class 6.

i started school in june last year and by the time i got my bike and what not, the season was pretty much over.
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It's only over if you let it. I pretty much rode my scooter all year long. The only time I didn't ride was when it rained in sheets, snow on the ground, or it was below freezing.

I pretty much rode all the way down to temps hovering around freezing. I've had frost on my seat and mirrors after popping inside for bbt.
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Why don't you take PRS this summer, get your MST over with and start looking for a bike?

Not too much can go wrong with the jap 600's mechanically, imo.. but it'd be smart to google "common issues with [model & year of bike]". A bunch of forum threads will probably result in some good info.
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highly suggest this. if you can get your MST over with at the end of summer, you have all winter to look and research for bikes. so by spring or early summer, you can buy a bike and get your full Class 6.

i started school in june last year and by the time i got my bike and what not, the season was pretty much over.
I have a group of people that all want to get their motorcycles and stuff the same time, one of them has gone out of country and will be back near december so we all agreed on waiting for him. Having said that does PRS have any group rate discounts? Not a large group, just 3-4 people.
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I have a group of people that all want to get their motorcycles and stuff the same time, one of them has gone out of country and will be back near december so we all agreed on waiting for him. Having said that does PRS have any group rate discounts? Not a large group, just 3-4 people.
minimum 4 for $50 off each person. In the process of taking the course, just finished the classroom stuff.
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if you haven't set your mind on PRS yet, try sundays motorcycle school. you can always email him to see if he gives discounts.

by name, PRS is better though.
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Sorry im asking so many questions here but should i go to PRS, ProRide up in north van or that Sunday Motorcycle school? Sunday's is bit cheaper than PRS and ProRide, also closer than both of them. Any other suggestions closer than Sundays?
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^You will find 99.99999% of people who took PRS will strongly recommend it for good reason

They were able to each my wife to ride...that says enough
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minimum 4 for $50 off each person. In the process of taking the course, just finished the classroom stuff.
Just finished the classroom portion at PRS aswell, what class are you in? I'm in the weekend class.

On another note, I've been looking around for a used SV650 (2003+, "s" model or not, doesn't matter), any common issues about these bikes? From everything I've read and heard, the SV is a great bike to start with that isn't a 250.
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PRS sounds like the more obvious choice, but Sundays and ProRide is lots closer. We still havent decided, but from all you guy's comments i dont think we will regret going to PRS.
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And for good measure, I'll chime in for PRS as well.

I may be young, but I've taken a wide variety of classes/courses including ones on sports, music, outdoor survival, martial arts, combat, flying lessons, construction, and - most recently - motorcycle training. All had their own valid ways of teaching in the most effective manner; PRS is no exception. It's noticeable to me that there are things learned in motorcycle training that I have learned elsewhere already. Having experienced such a wide array of teaching styles in different fields, it's easy for me to say that PRS has garnered and successfully implemented some of the best aspects from all fields.

That said, I haven't been to any of the other schools, let alone checked them out.


LP670-4 SV, I think you were asking about insurance earlier. I went to my local Autoplan broker and got quoted ~$900 for full coverage (collision and comprehensive) with a declared value of $2500. That was for one year, 600cc, 10% discount. (Should be 15% by now....)

I think I will declare the value higher, though.

I'm only going to be insuring my bike for three months, so I thought what the hell, I'll take the collision and comprehensive for the extra $80 or whatever it was. It's my first bike and I'm a new rider... something might happen.
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^ Thanks for the info, my buddy told me his ZX6R was upwards of 300 bucks a month, new rider, full coverage. Which scares me and continues to make it a worry about getting a 600. Mind you, if I get a 600 it would be same kinda deal, except his would be a 2009 bike with a higher value.

After reading all u guy's posts again I realized you guys probably think I'm a lot older than I am. I'm actually still in HS. and just for that fact I have decided to get myself back onto the 250 route. Ive actually thought bout this, being me I love going WOT on bikes, whether it be my old dirtbike, the 50cc pocket bike, or the Honda rebel 125 I used to rip around in. I actually got to sit on a ninja 250r and it isn't really as miniature as I thought. I've figured that if I do get a 600 then most of the time I'll have to ride slow and only be able use a fraction of the performance it actually has. On a 250 however I can use what it can produce, without killing myself, along with cheaper maintenance and running costs.
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$300/month for insurance?

Get your basic from ICBC then go to see Paul @ Cassells. Or heck, Paul can do it all at one for you. Make sure you tell him you took a course!
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He's a new rider with a 09 ZX6R monster edition valued at approx $7500-8000. 300 bucks is what ICBC has him at now. Not 18 yet but probably able to get this after a season.
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I thought to be eligible for private insurance (w/ good rates anyway) i think you need at least 5~10 years with license and a cleaaaan driving record. the latter makes me a non-candidate


wish i had a 600 back in HS!!
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Just finished the classroom portion at PRS aswell, what class are you in? I'm in the weekend class.

On another note, I've been looking around for a used SV650 (2003+, "s" model or not, doesn't matter), any common issues about these bikes? From everything I've read and heard, the SV is a great bike to start with that isn't a 250.
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We were probably in the same classroom group.. Was towards the back of the classroom with my gf. Nightschool A.
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