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ASG111 08-12-2009 05:14 PM

Is this illegal or breaching privacy issues?
 
If Person A works for companyABC (which is a NOT FOR PROFIT ORGANIZATION) and Person A is applying for a job at XYZ company.

Is it a breach of privacy if Person A shows financial statements he created for CompanyABC to Person B at XYZ company?


Key point to keep in mind is that CompanyABC is a NOT FOR PROFIT org, so isn't everything suppose to be transparent?

sexyaccord 08-12-2009 05:26 PM

ABC is hiring?

invader 08-12-2009 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by sexyaccord (Post 6544307)
ABC is hiring?

lol

jnesss 08-12-2009 05:43 PM

did u create the fs at abc? did you want to show xyz that you could create fs?

regardless, i wouldn't keep anything work related with me after i quit.

ASG111 08-12-2009 05:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by no_limitz (Post 6544335)
did u create the fs at abc? did you want to show xyz that you could create fs?

regardless, i wouldn't keep anything work related with me after i quit.

Yes, FS was created by me at ABC, and yes, to show that i could create FS to XYZ.

jnesss 08-12-2009 05:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ASG111 (Post 6544346)
Yes, FS was created by me at ABC, and yes, to show that i could create FS to XYZ.

excel?

Psykopathik 08-12-2009 05:53 PM

don't do it.

ilvtofu 08-12-2009 06:33 PM

^yeah what he said... It's not right, and chances are it IS illegal

Blinky 08-12-2009 06:35 PM

I don't know about illegal, but I do "know" about ethical (unethical in my book). I wouldn't do it.

If XYZ wants to see what you did at ABC, couldn't you scramble the numbers of the real ABC data?

ZenZa 08-12-2009 07:00 PM

If the FS are available to the general public, I don't see what's wrong

If not, it would be breach of confidentiality?

Eclypz 08-12-2009 07:31 PM

if you work for ABC, isn't anything you create for ABC property of ABC? Especially if it reveals private information of ABC.

If you just want proof of concept, there are many ways to do it without revealing ABC's private/confidential information. (i.e. blank out certain information)

wouwou 08-12-2009 07:42 PM

what kind of fucked up company would ask for a financial statements of an other company privately?

I wouldn't even consider working for XYZ if they asked for stuff like that. If ABC ever finds out, you are fucked big time doesnt matter if ABC is a NFP organization.

impactX 08-12-2009 07:49 PM

If they want to know what you can do, that's what your resume and references are for... Why would you reveal your current company information to a third party? Those are sensitive information. Revealing it = ground for dismissal.

StylinRed 08-12-2009 08:04 PM

that sounds completley crazy and sounds like your asking for trouble

it actually sounds like corporate espionage almost ;)


you better black everything out on those statements that you show... and it makes no sense to show XYZ you could do that... if they required proof... make a mock-up of a fictional company...

_Hotsauce_ 08-12-2009 08:05 PM

Why the fuck did you use ABC and XYC; shoulda just have said "Company A and B"? Like seriously, are you fucking retarded? I hope you get fired AND don't get the new job.

willystyle 08-12-2009 08:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ASG111 (Post 6544299)
If Person A works for companyABC (which is a NOT FOR PROFIT ORGANIZATION) and Person A is applying for a job at XYZ company.

Is it a breach of privacy if Person A shows financial statements he created for CompanyABC to Person B at XYZ company?


Key point to keep in mind is that CompanyABC is a NOT FOR PROFIT org, so isn't everything suppose to be transparent?

To put it in simple terms. Yes it is illegal, ABC can sue your ass if they choose. How do I know? because I work for a NPO too.

jeanne_17 08-12-2009 08:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by willystyle (Post 6544593)
To put it in simple terms. Yes it is illegal, ABC can sue your ass if they choose. How do I know? because I work for a NPO too.

that's interesting.

he's talking about companies. i was wondering what if say A is from a student club or something, presenting it to a company for hire? i am assuming that would be the same case? or totally different?

asian_XL 08-12-2009 08:55 PM

just show him the last year FS.

unless you blank out everything in the current yr FS...otherwise....YOU GO TO JAIL BAD BOY.

The_AK 08-12-2009 09:14 PM

did you sign any confidentiality forms?
if he didnt, can company ABC still sue him?

tool001 08-12-2009 09:23 PM

Acutally my ex_GF went though something similar.

she was a head hunter. and was about to get a VP of finance a job with company A, the guy use to work for Company B, but before the guy would accept the job, He wanted to see the financial statements of the COmpany A, (only thing is the company was a direct competitor)

The company right out refused. You cannot show financial statements because you sign a privacy agreement when starting the job in any company (non profit or not). If they find out. u can be in deep shit.

SHE lost 30k in commission, out of which 15k would have gone in her pocket.



Main thing to remember, even though it was created by you, it was done when you were on the paycheck of company A, thus property of company A

(similar to Xerox and Novell lawsuit,,, some people would know this?)

jeanne_17 08-12-2009 09:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The_AK (Post 6544652)
did you sign any confidentiality forms?
if he didnt, can company ABC still sue him?

exactly, if he didn't sign any confidentiality forms, i think he'd be okay.

jeanne_17 08-12-2009 09:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tool001 (Post 6544662)
Main thing to remember, even though it was created by you, it was done when you were on the paycheck of company A, thus property of company A

(similar to Xerox and Novell lawsuit,,, some people would know this?)

I'm curious. what if it was a student club or something showing her work to prospective employers??

Peanut Butter Jelly Time! 08-12-2009 09:48 PM

what if i create a program that helps me do my job more efficiently on my own time but use it during my current position?

would the rights of the program that was written belong to me or the company?

Gt-R R34 08-12-2009 09:49 PM

Yes he can.

It's a breach of trust. even if you didn't sign any confidentiality form, Anything created for a purpose for a specific company/student club or anything. It legally is the property and intellect of that particular company.

Example, if you create a item with X company, but you didn't sign any confidentiality agreement, but company Y wants to see it before he hires you. You can be sued for theft. As the item was created on their property/grounds/equipment and using their technology and information to build it.

Even say you are a professor that created X at a university, the item X is yours but royalties must be paid to the university.


Added edit - for those saying public company information - that you created, it's public for the shareholders and the market, that still doesn't give you the right to divulge to some competitor. Any information on say that financial statement you have could have breakdown on items NOT contained in the public financial statement. No company gives break down to the exact penny, unless requested. You always get the big numbers, "misc expenses".

impactX 08-12-2009 09:58 PM

However, if Company A is a listed Company and you are pulling the financial statements from a public filing to show Company B, then it should be OK... but who the hell would ask for financial statements like that.


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