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08-12-2009, 05:14 PM
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#1 | | RS controls my life!
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If Person A works for companyABC (which is a NOT FOR PROFIT ORGANIZATION) and Person A is applying for a job at XYZ company.
Is it a breach of privacy if Person A shows financial statements he created for CompanyABC to Person B at XYZ company?
Key point to keep in mind is that CompanyABC is a NOT FOR PROFIT org, so isn't everything suppose to be transparent?
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08-12-2009, 05:26 PM
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#2 | | HELP ME PLS!!!
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ABC is hiring?
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08-12-2009, 05:27 PM
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#3 | | Fanboy
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Originally Posted by sexyaccord  ABC is hiring? | lol
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08-12-2009, 05:43 PM
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did u create the fs at abc? did you want to show xyz that you could create fs?
regardless, i wouldn't keep anything work related with me after i quit.
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08-12-2009, 05:48 PM
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#5 | | RS controls my life!
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Originally Posted by no_limitz did u create the fs at abc? did you want to show xyz that you could create fs?
regardless, i wouldn't keep anything work related with me after i quit. | Yes, FS was created by me at ABC, and yes, to show that i could create FS to XYZ.
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08-12-2009, 05:49 PM
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#6 | | (ノº _ º)ノ彡┻━┻
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Originally Posted by ASG111 Yes, FS was created by me at ABC, and yes, to show that i could create FS to XYZ. | excel?
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08-12-2009, 05:53 PM
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#7 | | Glorious Gaming PC Master Race
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don't do it.
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08-12-2009, 06:33 PM
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#8 | | F**K YOUR HEAD
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^yeah what he said... It's not right, and chances are it IS illegal
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08-12-2009, 06:35 PM
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#9 | | Need to Seek Professional Help
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I don't know about illegal, but I do "know" about ethical (unethical in my book). I wouldn't do it.
If XYZ wants to see what you did at ABC, couldn't you scramble the numbers of the real ABC data?
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08-12-2009, 07:00 PM
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#10 | | I Will not Admit my Addiction to RS
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If the FS are available to the general public, I don't see what's wrong
If not, it would be breach of confidentiality?
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08-12-2009, 07:31 PM
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if you work for ABC, isn't anything you create for ABC property of ABC? Especially if it reveals private information of ABC.
If you just want proof of concept, there are many ways to do it without revealing ABC's private/confidential information. (i.e. blank out certain information)
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08-12-2009, 07:42 PM
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what kind of fucked up company would ask for a financial statements of an other company privately?
I wouldn't even consider working for XYZ if they asked for stuff like that. If ABC ever finds out, you are fucked big time doesnt matter if ABC is a NFP organization.
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08-12-2009, 07:49 PM
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#13 | | The "You'd Know" Moderator
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If they want to know what you can do, that's what your resume and references are for... Why would you reveal your current company information to a third party? Those are sensitive information. Revealing it = ground for dismissal.
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08-12-2009, 08:04 PM
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that sounds completley crazy and sounds like your asking for trouble
it actually sounds like corporate espionage almost 
you better black everything out on those statements that you show... and it makes no sense to show XYZ you could do that... if they required proof... make a mock-up of a fictional company...
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08-12-2009, 08:05 PM
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#15 | | I *Fwap* *Fwap* *Fwap* to RS
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Why the fuck did you use ABC and XYC; shoulda just have said "Company A and B"? Like seriously, are you fucking retarded? I hope you get fired AND don't get the new job.
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08-12-2009, 08:32 PM
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#16 | | HELP ME PLS!!!
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Originally Posted by ASG111 If Person A works for companyABC (which is a NOT FOR PROFIT ORGANIZATION) and Person A is applying for a job at XYZ company.
Is it a breach of privacy if Person A shows financial statements he created for CompanyABC to Person B at XYZ company?
Key point to keep in mind is that CompanyABC is a NOT FOR PROFIT org, so isn't everything suppose to be transparent? | To put it in simple terms. Yes it is illegal, ABC can sue your ass if they choose. How do I know? because I work for a NPO too.
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08-12-2009, 08:49 PM
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#17 | | I am Hook'd on RS
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Originally Posted by willystyle To put it in simple terms. Yes it is illegal, ABC can sue your ass if they choose. How do I know? because I work for a NPO too. | that's interesting.
he's talking about companies. i was wondering what if say A is from a student club or something, presenting it to a company for hire? i am assuming that would be the same case? or totally different?
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08-12-2009, 08:55 PM
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#18 | | I WANT MY 10 YEARS BACK FROM RS.net!
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just show him the last year FS.
unless you blank out everything in the current yr FS...otherwise....YOU GO TO JAIL BAD BOY.
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08-12-2009, 09:14 PM
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did you sign any confidentiality forms?
if he didnt, can company ABC still sue him?
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08-12-2009, 09:23 PM
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#20 | | My homepage has been set to RS
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Acutally my ex_GF went though something similar.
she was a head hunter. and was about to get a VP of finance a job with company A, the guy use to work for Company B, but before the guy would accept the job, He wanted to see the financial statements of the COmpany A, (only thing is the company was a direct competitor)
The company right out refused. You cannot show financial statements because you sign a privacy agreement when starting the job in any company (non profit or not). If they find out. u can be in deep shit.
SHE lost 30k in commission, out of which 15k would have gone in her pocket.
Main thing to remember, even though it was created by you, it was done when you were on the paycheck of company A, thus property of company A
(similar to Xerox and Novell lawsuit,,, some people would know this?)
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08-12-2009, 09:28 PM
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#21 | | I am Hook'd on RS
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Originally Posted by The_AK did you sign any confidentiality forms?
if he didnt, can company ABC still sue him? | exactly, if he didn't sign any confidentiality forms, i think he'd be okay.
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08-12-2009, 09:30 PM
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#22 | | I am Hook'd on RS
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Originally Posted by tool001 Main thing to remember, even though it was created by you, it was done when you were on the paycheck of company A, thus property of company A
(similar to Xerox and Novell lawsuit,,, some people would know this?) | I'm curious. what if it was a student club or something showing her work to prospective employers??
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08-12-2009, 09:48 PM
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what if i create a program that helps me do my job more efficiently on my own time but use it during my current position?
would the rights of the program that was written belong to me or the company?
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08-12-2009, 09:49 PM
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#24 | | Ubereem Mod
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Yes he can.
It's a breach of trust. even if you didn't sign any confidentiality form, Anything created for a purpose for a specific company/student club or anything. It legally is the property and intellect of that particular company.
Example, if you create a item with X company, but you didn't sign any confidentiality agreement, but company Y wants to see it before he hires you. You can be sued for theft. As the item was created on their property/grounds/equipment and using their technology and information to build it.
Even say you are a professor that created X at a university, the item X is yours but royalties must be paid to the university.
Added edit - for those saying public company information - that you created, it's public for the shareholders and the market, that still doesn't give you the right to divulge to some competitor. Any information on say that financial statement you have could have breakdown on items NOT contained in the public financial statement. No company gives break down to the exact penny, unless requested. You always get the big numbers, "misc expenses".
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08-12-2009, 09:58 PM
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#25 | | The "You'd Know" Moderator
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However, if Company A is a listed Company and you are pulling the financial statements from a public filing to show Company B, then it should be OK... but who the hell would ask for financial statements like that.
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