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BNR32_Coupe 08-24-2009 09:43 PM
Nissan bashes Chevrolet Volt, claims 367mpg equiv LeafEV green mobile
 
http://www.blogcdn.com/www.autoblog....witter_opt.jpg

So basically nissan started shit with chevrolet by whooping their prized potential miracle car, Volt, with their even better LeafEV. Nissan also makes GTR's which have always kicked anything chevrolet came out with, so this adds to the fire that start way back. Comments anyone?

Quote:
Originally Posted by autoblog.com
Not content to let General Motors grab all the shiny happy tree-huggy headlines today with its 230 mpg claim for the Chevy Volt in city operation, the gang manning the NissanEVs Twitter account needled GM's range-extended EV messiah, tweeting:

Nissan Leaf = 367 mpg, no tailpipe, and no gas required. Oh yeah, and it'll be affordable too!

Given that the methodology of how the feds will ultimately arrive at the official mileage numbers (or mileage equivalents) for many of these next-gen greenmobiles is not yet finalized, we'll take all the hype and scoreboard pointing with a grain of salt until we see actual, final numbers posted at FuelEconomy.gov. (Nissan says its 367 mpg figure was derived by using the Department of Energy formula.)

In any case, a Twitter spitball fight between GMBlogs and NissanEVs over this stuff would be kind of entertaining to watch. Sorta like the nerdy opposite of the ZR1 vs. GT-R debate.
source: http://www.autoblog.com/2009/08/11/n...lent-for-leaf/

jlenko 08-24-2009 10:19 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by BNR32_Coupe (Post 6562015)
Nissan also makes GTR's which have always kicked anything chevrolet came out with

Comments anyone?
You'll never own a GTR... get over it.

Lomac 08-24-2009 10:30 PM
The Chevy Volt still looks far far better than this... thing.

Why do hybrids and electric vehicles generally all tend to look like the bastard spawn of Pugs and Rottweilers?

skyxx 08-24-2009 10:34 PM
I'm assuming that "Shape" is the most aerodynamic one. Hence why most of the Japanese manufactures use it as a baseline.

BNR32_Coupe 08-24-2009 11:13 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by jlenko (Post 6562070)
You'll never own a GTR... get over it.
haha OP got owned..

J____ 08-24-2009 11:19 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lomac (Post 6562091)
The Chevy Volt still looks far far better than this... thing.

Why do hybrids and electric vehicles generally all tend to look like the bastard spawn of Pugs and Rottweilers?
aerodynamics. Prius has better aerodynamics than a corvette. Looks like ass though, but on the other hand, if your all about the environment saving, celeb trend following lingo, who gives a crap what you drive in terms of looks. For all you care, your car can look like a piece of turd from a mule's arse if Leo Dicap is driving it and saving 1000 african children per year from acid rain.

fliptuner 08-24-2009 11:41 PM
Quote:
Nissan Leaf = 367 mpg, no tailpipe, and no gas required.

WTF???

lilaznviper 08-24-2009 11:42 PM
looks like crap but if it saves money im all for it

godwin 08-25-2009 12:41 AM
Not really, it is the easiest way to reach the optimal cd.. but it is optimized for ease.

The new MB E class can get to Cd better than Prius etc, they just have to add a few tricks and aerodynamic aids.. eg boarded up grills, aerodynamic aid to wheels, mainly to tuck in the tires.

Look Volt, if you ran out of juice, you still have the gas engine.. vs Nissan you are SOL.

Not to mention for Nissan a crap load of stuff is still under development. It is like comparing a 486 laptop with a Pentium M laptop.

Quote:
Originally Posted by skyxx (Post 6562094)
I'm assuming that "Shape" is the most aerodynamic one. Hence why most of the Japanese manufactures use it as a baseline.

asian_XL 08-25-2009 02:56 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by fliptuner (Post 6562212)
WTF???
let me guess...

367mpg = $4usd per tank = they claim it's only $2 per charge and it can run 160miles... = $4 gets around 3XX mileage?

BNR32_Coupe 08-25-2009 08:01 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by asian_XL (Post 6562361)
let me guess...

367mpg = $4usd per tank = they claim it's only $2 per charge and it can run 160miles... = $4 gets around 3XX mileage?
no he's wondering why it gets XXX miles per gallon, but gallon of what? because it also says "no gas required". see the two things he bolded out?

Great68 08-25-2009 08:29 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lomac (Post 6562091)
The Chevy Volt still looks far far better than this... thing.

:werd:

http://carcorner.com/wp-content/uplo...chevy-volt.jpg

vs

http://www.blogcdn.com/www.autoblog....witter_opt.jpg

You have to be retarded to think the nissan looks better.

SpuGen 08-25-2009 01:57 PM
^^+1
You'd have to be retarded to think that the GTR is better than the Corvette.

And just because there hasn't really been any GTR VS 911/Vette talk in a little while..
Corvettes/911's get Pussy for less
GTR's gets little Asian boys

And plus. Nissan lied about the Nurburgring times. I'm calling BS on their baseless claim that this POS is like omg totally awesome GTR La~! ^.~

jtanner_ 08-25-2009 02:06 PM
I'm also interested in what sort of gallon's they're referring too =b

Eclypz 08-25-2009 03:41 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by bagel.tech (Post 6562916)
I'm also interested in what sort of gallon's they're referring too =b
it's an "equivalent" rating
http://www.examiner.com/x-2812-Road-...-GM-Chevy-Volt

BNR32_Coupe 08-25-2009 07:34 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by SpuGen (Post 6562906)
^^+1
You'd have to be retarded to think that the GTR is better than the Corvette.

And just because there hasn't really been any GTR VS 911/Vette talk in a little while..
Corvettes/911's get Pussy for less
GTR's gets little Asian boys

And plus. Nissan lied about the Nurburgring times. I'm calling BS on their baseless claim that this POS is like omg totally awesome GTR La~! ^.~
...because some guys just cant get pussy on their own without a little alcohol, a fancy ride, a lot of persuading and lies

impactX 08-25-2009 09:14 PM
How are they considered "green" anyway? They use coal as powersource.

asian_XL 08-25-2009 09:31 PM
^ it's still 50% cheaper and less pollute than pump gas

godwin 08-25-2009 09:32 PM
More like energy independence for the US.. there are tons of coal in the US. in fact more than they know what to do with it.

Current government thinking is if we use less oil, we don't have to rely on the Middle East. US can always conquer Canada easily.

Quote:
Originally Posted by impactX (Post 6563495)
How are they considered "green" anyway? They use coal as powersource.

impactX 08-25-2009 10:01 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by asian_XL (Post 6563536)
^ it's still 50% cheaper and less pollute than pump gas
It's cheaper, no doubt.

Just out of curiosity, is there a study showing that burning coal to produce the power to drive the car produces less pollutants than burning pump gas, for the same driving distance?

What I am trying to get at is that, unless the coal-fired powerplants that were built prior to the 90s have adopted new emission control measures to reduced the amount of pollutants they produce, the vehicles that rely on those powerplants for power won't exactly be environmentally-friendly and would put more stress on the powergrid.

Manic! 08-25-2009 11:24 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by impactX (Post 6563607)
It's cheaper, no doubt.

Just out of curiosity, is there a study showing that burning coal to produce the power to drive the car produces less pollutants than burning pump gas, for the same driving distance?

What I am trying to get at is that, unless the coal-fired powerplants that were built prior to the 90s have adopted new emission control measures to reduced the amount of pollutants they produce, the vehicles that rely on those powerplants for power won't exactly be environmentally-friendly and would put more stress on the powergrid.
Nissan is developing solar powered charging stations:
http://www.dailytech.com/Nissan+Look...ticle16045.htm

impactX 08-25-2009 11:31 PM
Good! I hope they succeed.

At the same time, I hope they would improve the look on that vehicle...

SpuGen 08-25-2009 11:53 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by BNR32_Coupe (Post 6563346)
...because some guys just cant get pussy on their own without a little alcohol, a fancy ride, a lot of persuading and lies
You just explained what happens before a one night stand.

But the topic is about cars.
Some people buy GTR's(like say a R32) just to "beat" other cars, but when a group of GTR's are on the touge, they get their ass tailed by a 79 Camaro.

You can't pass someone when they're laying down a smokescreen just for fun. Even with all the awesome that is ATTESA, GTR's still drive into ditches.


But back to the topic.
How would you measure MPG if it doesn't use fuel?
Just how "green" is this car compared to the Volt?
Last I remember, to make a Prius, it created more pollution than to make a Hummer H2.

124Y 08-26-2009 01:37 AM
Nissan LeafEV VS Chevy Volt reminds me of this:

http://somecallmeduh.files.wordpress...r_internet.jpg

shenmecar 08-26-2009 06:02 PM
^

hahaha


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