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Old 10-21-2009, 06:47 AM   #101
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If is fine if you are on a flat surface.. but imagine you on a slope... besides it is braking that causes the issue.. not so much of moving/traction.

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i always could not understand that statement above. i know it's what the tire manufacturers recommend, but what is the point of doing it if your non-snow tires on the driven wheels have no traction and cannot move the car in the first place? there is nothing to recover from if the car is stuck to begin with
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i always could not understand that statement above. i know it's what the tire manufacturers recommend, but what is the point of doing it if your non-snow tires on the driven wheels have no traction and cannot move the car in the first place? there is nothing to recover from if the car is stuck to begin with
You will have a difference in traction levels if you put the snows in the front and all-seasons in the rear. Try turning in the snow, the rear of the car will slide and you will not be able to recover from the slide. Been there, done it.

For me, it's 4 snow tires or the bus.

IIRC, ICBC will not cover you in the event of an accident and you only have snow tires on the fronts and all-seasons in the rear. I remember a few years back, some person had that and lost control crashing and killing themselves and then not too long after that ICBC came out with that statement.
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I bought these for winter too, hope they're good!
+1, here too. Got a hot deal on them from Tirerack, $250 shipped to Pt. Roberts, and they charged me no duties and no taxes.
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honestly a month ago.. tirerack had a huge sale.. 70 bucks for 17" was a deal.

If you get Nokians and you want a deal, get it in WA.. Kaltire has exclusive on Nokians in BC.. and they sell at MSRP.
this is true. i bought my nokians from WA. i can't remember the exact figure but i saved about $200cdn landed, even with the poor exchange rate at the time. kal tire was both heavily marked up and they also did not have stock for what i wanted.
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You will have a difference in traction levels if you put the snows in the front and all-seasons in the rear. Try turning in the snow, the rear of the car will slide and you will not be able to recover from the slide. Been there, done it.

For me, it's 4 snow tires or the bus.

IIRC, ICBC will not cover you in the event of an accident and you only have snow tires on the fronts and all-seasons in the rear. I remember a few years back, some person had that and lost control crashing and killing themselves and then not too long after that ICBC came out with that statement.
icic... then what about tire chains? i'm not saying i do this myself, but i've seen people with snows in the back and tire chains in the front on an FWD car heading for the ski slopes.
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You will have a difference in traction levels if you put the snows in the front and all-seasons in the rear. Try turning in the snow, the rear of the car will slide and you will not be able to recover from the slide. Been there, done it.

For me, it's 4 snow tires or the bus.

IIRC, ICBC will not cover you in the event of an accident and you only have snow tires on the fronts and all-seasons in the rear. I remember a few years back, some person had that and lost control crashing and killing themselves and then not too long after that ICBC came out with that statement.

snow tires mounted on front axle (front wheel drive) - good acceleration, good steering, good braking. However, since the rear wheels have no lateral guidance, the rear end will come around. Not good. Feather your brakes. Go slow.

-bottom line. its fine to drive with 2 tires as long as you dont drive like an idiot
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+1, here too. Got a hot deal on them from Tirerack, $250 shipped to Pt. Roberts, and they charged me no duties and no taxes.
why not? u just got lucky?
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why not? u just got lucky?
Yeah pretty much... It was $204 USD for the tires, gave the guy my invoice from TireRack and just waved me through
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Yeah pretty much... It was $204 USD for the tires, gave the guy my invoice from TireRack and just waved me through
Where did you ship it to in Pt Roberts?
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Where did you ship it to in Pt Roberts?
The Letter Carrier is open on saturdays but they leave your tires outside, free to the elements.
I like TSB better, but they are not open on weekends.

Google search both.

Not paying taxes and duties at Pt. Roberts is a first for me. I've ALWAYS been charged taxes on tires there. Blaine is where I get lucky at. Plus it's closer for me.
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Where did you ship it to in Pt Roberts?
Yup, The Letter Carrier.
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icic... then what about tire chains? i'm not saying i do this myself, but i've seen people with snows in the back and tire chains in the front on an FWD car heading for the ski slopes.
Tire chains technically only work in a straight line. They don't really help you turn, so drive wheels only *should* be fine but your rear brakes may lock up easier or throw the ABS into ice mode which could affect your braking.
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The Letter Carrier is open on saturdays but they leave your tires outside, free to the elements.
O NOZ!! Snow tires, exposed to the elements?! HORROR!!!
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The Letter Carrier is open on saturdays but they leave your tires outside, free to the elements.
I like TSB better, but they are not open on weekends.

Google search both.

Not paying taxes and duties at Pt. Roberts is a first for me. I've ALWAYS been charged taxes on tires there. Blaine is where I get lucky at. Plus it's closer for me.
ya, i ship everything to blaine as well, then drive to a rest stop or bellis fair and throw away all the boxes..lol
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O NOZ!! Snow tires, exposed to the elements?! HORROR!!!
well, not exactly. the last time i was stupid and stored unmounted tires outside uncovered, rainwater filled up the insides and it took me forever to mop up the mess before i could load them up into the car to get mounted on rims
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Obviously not, or else I wouldn't have said they were left out to the elements. Damn Noobs.
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All the tires I've ever got from Kal Tire came in their own sealed bags. You should buy tires from a decent shop :P
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haha, nope. Tire rack pretty much tapes the shipping label to the tire and then bundles them in pairs with either tape or the plastic straps that you see on boxes and ships them out the door.

Tires should be OK exposed to the elements. They see much worse conditions mounted on your wheels.
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I like TSB better, but they are not open on weekends.
FYI TSB is now open on Saturdays, 9am to 1pm.
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Excellent. That is really good news. I like their facilities way better than TLC.

Last time I had tires shipped to TLC, there were spiders, and tree leaves all over the tires and even inside the tires. Luckily, all my tire pickups have been when it is dry. Wet tires would suck.
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All the tires I've ever got from Kal Tire came in their own sealed bags. You should buy tires from a decent shop :P
More than likely, the tires were shipped naked or bound in pairs.

When they arrived at Kal Tire, the workers there bagged them for you and charged you the bagging fee in their outragously high prices.
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