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10-14-2009, 06:32 AM
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#1 | | WOAH! i think Vtec just kicked in!
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| Sir James Dyson, you are a fucking genius: "the fanless fan"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8he8afjQyd8
As an aside, I currently own a Dyson vacuum. It fucking rocks; no joke.
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Brilliant. Need to try one of these out IRL.
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Are Dyson products really that good? I find it hard to justify the price
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Originally Posted by achiam As an aside, I currently own a Dyson vacuum. It fucking rocks; no joke. | it better for $500
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they are that good. i am a fan of dyson as well
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soo curious to test one of these out
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The Dyson ball vac is fucking wicked.....you basically stay home and play some hockey on your floor and soon your floor will be squeaky clean. 
all sorts of angle travel in all sorts of direction. Brilliant.
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It's not exactly "fanless"... The fan is just at the bottom instead.
My big issue with fans is the noise, not the "uncomfortable" wind they blow. And this sounds at least as loud if not louder than any fan I've heard.
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10-14-2009, 09:46 AM
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I got a Dyson vacuum a couple months ago, and it's amazing the amount of crap it pulls out of the carpet.
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10-14-2009, 10:12 AM
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#11 | | WOAH! i think Vtec just kicked in!
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Originally Posted by q0192837465 Are Dyson products really that good? I find it hard to justify the price | My homes have built in vacuums, but they are weak. Then I used other bag type vacuums with a beater brushes, but they were still weak.
The key difference I found when I upgraded to a Dyson cyclone, was when you empty the canister - the amount of ultra fine cement powder-like dust you see is just incredible.
When I used to empty the old bags of previous vacuums or even the collecting canisters of the in-home vacuums, I had never ever seen such fine dust.
Its like upgrading cars, once you know what the good shit is you'll never look back. And besides, the Dyson is a wise investment, the only thing that's ever broken or required maintenance is a belt for the beater brush. There are no bags to replace!
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10-14-2009, 10:14 AM
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#12 | | WOAH! i think Vtec just kicked in!
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Originally Posted by SkinnyPupp It's not exactly "fanless"... The fan is just at the bottom instead.
My big issue with fans is the noise, not the "uncomfortable" wind they blow. And this sounds at least as loud if not louder than any fan I've heard. | No, the fan is not just in the base. If you listen to his explanation of the aerodynamics, wind flows faster over curved surfaces. This causes a negative vacuum and pulls more air into it.
This is why he calls it a multiplier - the creation of the vacuum multiplies the air velocity caused by the in-base fan to a multiple of 16x.
His life story is pretty cool too:
Sir James Dyson (born Cromer, Norfolk, England, 2 May 1947), is an English industrial designer.
He is best known as the inventor of the Dual Cyclone bagless vacuum cleaner, which works on cyclonic separation. His net worth in 2008 was said to be £1.1 billion.[1]
Biography
Dyson is one of three children whose father, Alec Dyson, died of liver cancer in 1956. Dyson was educated at Gresham's School, Holt, Norfolk, from 1956 to 1965, where he excelled in long distance running: "I was quite good at it, not because I was physically good, but because I had more determination. I learned determination from it."[2] He spent one year (1965–1966) at the Byam Shaw School of Art (now the Central Saint Martins College of Art and Design), and then studied furniture and interior design at the Royal College of Art (1966–1970) before moving into engineering.
Dyson married Deirdre Hindmarsh in 1968. Her salary as an art teacher partially supported him while he developed his vacuum cleaner. The couple have three children: Emily, Jacob and Sam.[3]
Dyson paid £15 million for Dodington Park, a 300-acre Georgian estate in Gloucestershire, close to Chipping Sodbury. He and his wife also have a £3 million chateau in France, and a town house in Chelsea, London.[4] The Sunday Times Rich List 2008 estimated his fortune at £1.1 billion whilst Forbes magazine estimates it at £1 billion.
Dyson was chair of the board of trustees of the Design Museum, "the first in the world to showcase design of the manufactured object", until suddenly resigning in September 2004.[5] The museum had "become a style showcase" instead of "upholding its mission to encourage serious design of the manufactured object", in his words.
In 1997 Dyson was awarded the Prince Phillip Designers Prize. In 2005 he was elected as a Fellow at The Royal Academy of Engineering. He was appointed a Knight Bachelor in the New Year's Honours December 2006.
[edit] Early inventions
The Sea Truck, Dyson's first product, was launched in 1970 while he was at the Royal College of Art. His next product, the Ballbarrow, was a modified version of a wheelbarrow using a ball to replace the wheel. Dyson remained with the idea of a ball which his brother thought of, inventing the Trolleyball, a trolley that launched boats. He then designed the Wheelboat which could travel at speeds of 64 km/h on both land and water.
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DC07 Dyson vacuum cleaner
In the late 1970s Dyson had the idea of using cyclonic separation to create a vacuum cleaner that would not lose suction as it picked up dirt. He became frustrated with his Hoover Junior’s diminishing performance: dust kept clogging the bag and so it lost suction. The idea of the cyclones came from the spray-finishing room's air filter in his Ballbarrow factory. While partly supported by his art teacher wife's salary, and after five years and many prototypes, Dyson launched the 'G-Force' cleaner in 1983. However, no manufacturer or distributor would launch his product in the UK as it would disturb the valuable cleaner-bag market, so Dyson launched it in Japan through catalogue sales.[2] Manufactured in bright pink, the G-Force had a selling price of £2,000 (British equivalent). It won the 1991 International Design Fair prize in Japan. He obtained his first U.S. patent on the idea in 1986 (U.S. Patent 4,593,429).
After failing to sell his invention to the major manufacturers, Dyson set up his own manufacturing company. In June 1993 he opened his research centre and factory in Malmesbury, Wiltshire. The product now outsells those of some of the companies that rejected his idea and has become one of the most popular brands in the United Kingdom. In early 2005 it was reported that Dyson cleaners had become the market leaders in the United States by value (though not by number of units sold). Note that the US was introduced to Dyson when root cyclone was implemented, so in the US there were no sales of the DC01 - DC05 Dual Cyclone vacuum cleaners. The Dyson Dual Cyclone became the fastest selling vacuum cleaner ever to be made in the UK.
Dyson engineers were determined to create vacuum cleaners with even higher suction. This was achieved by adding a smaller diameter cyclone to give greater centrifugal force. This led to a way of getting 45% more suction than a dual cyclone and removing more dust, by dividing the air into 8 smaller cyclones, hence the name root cyclone. Dyson's breakthrough in the UK market, more than 10 years after the initial idea, was through a TV advertising campaign that emphasized that, unlike its rivals, it did not require the continuing purchase of replacement bags. At that time, the UK market for disposable cleaner bags was £100 million. The slogan of 'say goodbye to the bag' proved more attractive to the buying public than a previous emphasis on the suction efficiency that its technology delivers. Ironically, the previous step change in domestic vacuum cleaner design had been the introduction of the disposable bag - users being prepared to pay extra for the convenience of dustless emptying.
Following his success the other major manufacturers began to market their own bagless vacuum cleaners. Dyson sued Hoover UK for patent infringement and won around $5 million in damages. His manufacturing plant moved from England to Malaysia, for economic reasons and because of difficulty acquiring land for expansion, leaving 800 workers redundant. The company's headquarters and research facilities remain in Malmesbury. Dyson later stated that because of the cost savings from transferring production to Malaysia he was able to invest in R&D at Malmesbury. Dyson employs more people in the UK than he did before the transfer of manufacturing to Malaysia.
In 2005, Dyson added the wheel ball from his Ballbarrow concept into a vacuum cleaner, creating the Dyson Ball, claiming it to be more manoeuvrable.
[edit] Further inventions
In 2002 Dyson created a realisation of the optical illusions depicted in the lithographs of Dutch artist M. C. Escher. Engineer Derek Phillips was able to accomplish the task after a year of work, creating a water sculpture in which the water appears to flow up to the tops of four ramps arranged in a square, before cascading to the bottom of the next ramp. The creation titled Wrong Garden, was displayed at the Chelsea Flower Show in the spring of 2003.[6] The illusion is accomplished with water containing air bubbles pumped through a chamber underneath the transparent glass ramps to a slit at the top from which the bulk of the water cascades down. This makes it appear that the water is flowing up, when actually a small amount of water diverted from the slit at the top flows back down the ramps in a thin layer.
In 2000 Dyson expanded his appliance range to include a washing machine. Called ContraRotator it had two rotating drums which moved in opposite directions. The range was coloured in the usual bright Dyson colours, rather than the traditional white, grey or black of most other machines. The item did not take off with the public and is no longer available.
In October 2006 Dyson launched the Dyson Airblade, a fast hand dryer. The Dyson Digital Motor produces an air stream flowing at 400 mph. This unheated air is channeled through a 0.3 millimetre gap, no thicker than an eyelash. A sheet of air acts like an invisible windscreen wiper to wipe moisture from hands.
Dyson has released a new vacuum cleaner called Ball technology. The idea for Ball technology came from an engineer studying new ways to steer. It started crudely - an old wand handle attached to a wheel. Eventually the wheel became a ball - an ideal home for the motor.
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10-14-2009, 10:19 AM
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Originally Posted by achiam Its like upgrading cars, once you know what the good shit is you'll never look back. And besides, the Dyson is a wise investment, the only thing that's ever broken or required maintenance is a belt for the beater brush. There are no bags to replace! | I think the HEPA filters need to be replaced at some point  | |
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10-14-2009, 10:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Spectre_Cdn I think the HEPA filters need to be replaced at some point | Actually ya thats true, but according to my book every 3 years?
I cleaned mine several months ago; its the round donut ring filter - its black but if you scrub it in a basin of water all the ultra fine dust comes out, turning the water pitch black.
15 minutes later, the filter is bright blue!
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Originally Posted by hk20000 The Dyson ball vac is fucking wicked.....you basically stay home and play some hockey on your floor and soon your floor will be squeaky clean.
all sorts of angle travel in all sorts of direction. Brilliant. | But when you empty the container does dusk not fly around in the air?
With a bagged vacuum all dirt stays in the bag and you get more in. With the cylinder type you have to empty it more often.
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10-14-2009, 10:38 AM
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#16 | | WOAH! i think Vtec just kicked in!
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Originally Posted by GodZilla But when you empty the container does dusk not fly around in the air?
With a bagged vacuum all dirt stays in the bag and you get more in. With the cylinder type you have to empty it more often. | Nope! What the manual tells you to do, is detach the canister separation part, and wrap the bottom in a garbage bag. Then push the bottom trap door release trigger at the top of the arm, releasing all the dust/crap into the garbage bag. Then bring up the canister + arm slowly, and tie the garbage bag as you go.
When I first bought mine, I didn't bother reading the manual and just opened the door and dumped it into the toilet and inhaled LOTS of ultra fine dust - it was horrible!
Actually even with this cylinder, you only empty when its full - the advantage of course, is that the suction power does not decrease.
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Originally Posted by q0192837465 Are Dyson products really that good? I find it hard to justify the price | parents/i still using a couple Filter Queens my dad bought like 30 years ago for over a $1k
30 years later they're still going strong without issue except switching the rubber band on the brush once in a blue moon, i think these things have Lifetime Warranties too
i would have chucked it for a Dyson (cuz i think the commercials are cool) but i notice they only give a 5 year warranty and tested one out and it doesnt seem so hot...
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I can not wait until he finally produces an affordable and small robotic vacuum cleaner.
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Just buy 30 normal fans instead
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yay I always wanted to put my head through a fan!
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The Dyson Vacuums work really well. It actually sucks out all the dirt and grit out of the carpets. You can use a regular vacuum and try to vacuum the floor. You may think it's clean but once you're done "cleaning" with the regular vacuum and you switch over to the Dyson. The Dyson picks up MORE dirt. Lol this sounds like an informercial but it's not it works!
Anyway, back on topic. I find this fan pointless lol.
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I read a consumer report a few months ago and they rated dyson mid to low pack
Hoover won
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Originally Posted by achiam No, the fan is not just in the base. If you listen to his explanation of the aerodynamics, wind flows faster over curved surfaces. This causes a negative vacuum and pulls more air into it.
This is why he calls it a multiplier - the creation of the vacuum multiplies the air velocity caused by the in-base fan to a multiple of 16x. | He can call it whatever he want, but there's still a fucking fan in there, and it makes a lot of noise.
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Can this be used in aircraft technology?
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i saw this on digg
its pretty freaking cool looking.
from what i read, theres an impeller in the base of the fan, thats how air goes around the wing, causing a low pressure zone, and air around is drawn in.
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