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Originally Posted by Eugene  If so few Sihks wear one, then why is it so important that our society should go out of it's way to cater to those few that do? | Why does it piss people off if so few wear it. And half the time u don't see it. Posted via RS Mobile | 
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i changed my POV on this....from nagative to supportive
there are risks for any other things, just let it be...
if its happening, its bond to happen
why not step back and relax a bit people ..
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Come join my religion!
The sacred symbol of my religion is the desert eagle, and all in my faith MUST wear one on their person at all times!
If anyone should contest our wearing of the sacred symbol we shall say that they are contradicting our freedom of religion by the charter of rights and freedoms!
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Originally Posted by Great68 Come join my religion!
The sacred symbol of my religion is the desert eagle, and all in my faith MUST wear one on their person at all times!
If anyone should contest our wearing of the sacred symbol we shall say that they are contradicting our freedom of religion by the charter of rights and freedoms! | Way to trivialize the significance of the kirpan. Dipshit Posted via RS Mobile | |
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10-22-2009, 10:30 AM
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Originally Posted by asahai69 Way to trivialize the significance of the kirpan. Dipshit | Quote: |
Originally Posted by asahai69 sikhs that wear kirpans are a small minority of a minority. | Quote: |
Originally Posted by asahai69 honestly. nobody i can think of in my family wears one. none of my friends parents wear one. | Sounds pretty significant to me...
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Originally Posted by asahai69 Way to trivialize the significance of the kirpan. Dipshit Posted via RS Mobile | Way to trivialize my right to equality under the charter, asshole.
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10-22-2009, 11:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Great68 Way to trivialize my right to equality under the charter, asshole. | If u feel so bad about it. Take it up with the supreme court. Retard  Posted via RS Mobile | |
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Why would sikh's be intrested in seeing the olympics in the first place? I mean are there any competitors also wearing a turban?
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10-22-2009, 12:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Eugene Sounds pretty significant to me... | I am not baptized. Thats why I don't wear one. That does not mean its not a part of my religion Posted via RS Mobile | |
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10-22-2009, 12:14 PM
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Originally Posted by threezero People are ranting because its unfair. knife, ceremonial or not are permitted for one special group of ppl. imagine going into the olympic and you have nail clipper in your purse or whatever and the security take it from it or you can't go in, than the sikh guy beside u walk straight through with a knife on the belt.
| Life is unfair. You can say their religion allows them to carry a 'weapon' in this case that others cant, but they're religion also prevents them from enjoying many things that we can. I dont see them complaining and asking for equality. And besides i doubt any sikh would even consider disgracing their whole religion and people just to use this as a chance to attack someone at the olympics.
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Originally Posted by minoru_tanaka Sorry but Kippah been around for thousands of years. Kirpan a couple of hundred years. | your point being? If i'm older than you are, does this mean i deserve to live and you should be killed?
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Originally Posted by Death2Theft Why would sikh's be intrested in seeing the olympics in the first place? I mean are there any competitors also wearing a turban? | Guess we shouldn't watch hockey either.
I thought team Canada represented all of Canada not just the white people of Canada.
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Wow, the ignorance is off the charts in this thread. Here, allow me to educate you on the significance of the Kirpan Quote: |
Kirpan Strapped sword - This small sword is a defensive sidearm with it's use only allowed in the act of self defense, and the protection of others. As such, it stands for showing bravery and protecting the innocent/weak. Sikhs carry this beside their waist and are expected to wear it at all times, just as a police officer is expected to wear a public-defensive weapon at all times. In Sikhism, the carrying and use of this Kirpan is 100% synonymous with a police officer's given power to carry and use a weapon, as the reasons are entirely selfless, for the protection of all who need it regardless of race or caste. It also stands to always remind the Sikh carrier of the meaning behind it, as a tool in the safety of all, and their personal duties and responsibility as a Sikh in the message of peace.
| If you click on the link and actually read, you will see that a baptized Sikh does not just carry around a knife. It's just a small part of the bigger picture. Also, the number of Sikhs who wear a Kirpan is probably well below 20%. So here let me do some logical math for you.
Number of Sikhs in Vancouver(2001)=2.8% (In this case, I'll estimate that it is 4% now.)
Percentage of Sikhs who wear a Kirpan=15%(Again, estimate from Google research)
Seating Capacity of GM Place for a hockey game=18,810
So if GM place is to scale with Vancvouer, out of all the people watching in GM Place, the number of Sikhs will be 752.4.
112.86 will be wearing a Kirpan.
Now, how many of those Sikhs do you think will be wanting to pull out their Kirpan and attack all those around them for no apparent reason? Please let me know, with information backing it up.
Sikhs have earned the right to wear the Kirpan. That's what all of you are failing to understand. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demogra...ouver#Religion http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/5_k%27s#Kirpan http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Motors_Place http://www.google.ca/search?sourceid...ho+wear+kirpan | |
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10-22-2009, 06:38 PM
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Originally Posted by asahai69 Way to trivialize the significance of the kirpan. Dipshit Posted via RS Mobile | Haha pathetic.
Hey dumbass, if you want a debate you have to actually come up with a decent argument. Unfortunately for you pea-brain,you seem to lack the mental faculties to so.
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Originally Posted by J____ Life is unfair. You can say their religion allows them to carry a 'weapon' in this case that others cant, but they're religion also prevents them from enjoying many things that we can. I dont see them complaining and asking for equality. And besides i doubt any sikh would even consider disgracing their whole religion and people just to use this as a chance to attack someone at the olympics. | OMG you really don't understand logic do you?
1. Their religion does not ALLOW them anything, at least not in Canada. It may be part of their religion but religion does not give you special privileges (like carrying a weapon). They should not have the right to carry a Kirpan if everyone else is bared from doing so period. First and foremost, its not an issue of safety but of EQUAL RIGHTS.
"The only stable state is the one in which all men are equal before the law"
2. I eat mostly a plant-based diet because it is in "my belief" that such a diet leads to better health. Because of "my beliefs" I don't get to enjoy many kinds of foods that I would like. The DIFFERENCE is that this is SELF-IMPOSED. It does not affect nor TRAMPLE on other people's rights. What part of this do you not understand? LOL
3. Are you saying that 100% of religious people are non-violent and aren't susceptible to the follies of the human condition? Do they not get angry? Do they not get into confrontations? I would argue religious people are MORE dangerous than non-religious people. Read newspapers much? Israeli/Palestinian Confilct, India/Pakistan disputes over Kashmir, America's Holy War in the Middle-East. LOL
You also conveniently fail to mention the very possible scenario in which someone seizes a kirpan from a carrier and in doing so attacks someone else. It is the same reason guns are outlawed. Its common sense that many gun-owners are well trained and are responsible, but what happens if some-other-person gets hold of said gun? It is thus for the benefit of everyone if weapons are outlawed (which they are in Canada) even if it may be of some small nuisance to a small number of people.
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10-22-2009, 07:22 PM
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Originally Posted by ctsport Haha pathetic.
Hey dumbass, if you want a debate you have to actually come up with a decent argument. Unfortunately for you pea-brain,you seem to lack the mental faculties to so.
You = FAIL | Have you ever seen a real kirpan. That is worn daily. Up close in person? Posted via RS Mobile | |
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Originally Posted by ctsport You also conveniently fail to mention the very possible scenario in which someone seizes a kirpan from a carrier and in doing so attacks someone else. It is the same reason guns are outlawed. | Actually, the Kirpan is worn underneath your clothing 90% of the time, and 99% of the time you're out in public. It's going to be pretty tough to get underneath someones clothes, unsheath the Kirpan and then go on your violent spree.
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Originally Posted by asahai69 Have you ever seen a real kirpan. That is worn daily. Up close in person? Posted via RS Mobile | is it similar in size and design to a boning knife?
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Originally Posted by GLOW is it similar in size and design to a boning knife? | its thicker. but most of the time the blade is duller than the lip of a tea cup
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Originally Posted by unit i know its a religious thing, but have there been many related cases of these being used as weapons? do they have to be kept so sharp even though they arent to be used? should just make dull blunt ones  | I don't know where you get your info from, but they are NOT SHARP, but rather very dull. Get your head out of your ass before making a comment.
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Originally Posted by Revive I don't know where you get your info from, but they are NOT SHARP, but rather very dull. Get your head out of your ass before making a comment. | i can see where some of these people are coming from. they are not really too enlightened as to why the kirpan is worn and how much it actually means to the people wearing it. its like asking a Christan to remove his cross or asking a person who practices Judaism to remove his kippah. its just too bad alot of people actually see this as a weapon (which its not) and not for what it actually is. a religious symbol.
alot of you that dont really understand what its for should really read up on what it actually means. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kirpan
take 10 minutes out. read it and come back here if you feel the same way
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#122 | | I told him no, what y'all do?
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Originally Posted by asahai69 i can see where some of these people are coming from. they are not really too enlightened as to why the kirpan is worn and how much it actually means to the people wearing it. its like asking a Christan to remove his cross or asking a person who practices Judaism to remove his kippah. its just too bad alot of people actually see this as a weapon (which its not) and not for what it actually is. a religious symbol.
alot of you that dont really understand what its for should really read up on what it actually means. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kirpan
take 10 minutes out. read it and come back here if you feel the same way | the idea of riveting the blade in to the sheath stated in wiki is a creative idea to balance fear of it being pulled out and also demenstrating one's faith.
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This is a quote from an article posted last week about a failed Kirpan bill in California which would have made it a requirement for law enforcement officials to learn about Sikhs and the kirpan in California; Quote:
The POST Commission regularly gathers training officers from across the state to discuss training priorities for law enforcement agencies.
"If in these training needs assessments it is determined that training is needed in regards to the kirpan, training will be developed," POST spokesman Bob Stresak said.
Stresak said that compared with total arrests made, "statistically (the kirpan) wasn't a significant issue." He also noted that the agencies that interact with the state's two largest Sikh communities have not reported a major concern.
| All the fear mongers make it sound like Sikhs with kirpans are going around and stabbing and killing people when law enforcement in the States is basically saying the Kirpan is not a major issue or concern.
It's fucking sad that some members in this thread and you know who you are, always act cute and post some sort of hateful post when it's a thread about Sikh's. Like the idiot in this thread who posted about knocking his friends turban off, like buddy what the fuck does that have to do with anything? Shame on all the members who's job it is to spew hateful shit whenever they get a chance but for the rest of the members who really do have valid concerns, continue asking questions, even if it offends some people, because that's how you learn about different cultures and people. You don't learn by reading articles.
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Originally Posted by ctsport Haha, it must be the Surrey in you.
4. The ignorant person is you. Multiculturalism does not mean blind acceptance. Multiculturalism works only if its within the confines of the Canadian context, otherwise you get anarchy. Cultures around the world still routinely burn brides to death as a legitimate form of divorce. There are cultures that mutilate girls' vagina's to keep them from "indecency." According to your logic, we should turn a blind eye to such crimes if they were to occur in Canada because "it's multicultural time baby and you're ignorant if you think otherwise."  | So you are comparing burning people to death, or cutting a girls vagina - to wearing a kirpan?
LOL...i guess i am stupid huh? You make much more sense dont you?
"It must be the Surrey in me?" - very mature. Another comment that shows what an idiot you truely are
Either way the decision is made - so if the olympics commitee is ok with it then get over it. If you want to protest then don't come to the games. Its better without people like you anyways.
End this thread already...too many stupid people on these forums 
lets go look up some bodykits and rice out our cars instead! 
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