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Old 11-28-2009, 10:39 PM   #26
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This is why I'm glad my car is a 2-seater can never go over the limit that way!
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Old 11-28-2009, 10:42 PM   #27
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Agreed. I stopped someone from driving away from a friend's party the other day after he had been complaining about how drunk he was. He couldn't walk in a straight line and used the wall to hold himself up. He only got out of his car when I told him that I was the police. He tried to play dumb up until I told him that.
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Old 11-29-2009, 12:03 AM   #28
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...or wait...how much time does it take to flatten 4 tires? Even if he was a complete stranger I would have flattened the tyres.
For that matter... buddy in the original story ended up wrecking his car. Four flat TIRES (this is Canada, not England :P ) is a hulluva lot cheaper and less hassle to deal with than a wrecked car.

Then again, if the idiot was that pissed, he might have tried driving on the flats, too.
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Old 11-29-2009, 12:06 AM   #29
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Then again, if the idiot was that pissed, he might have tried driving on the flats, too.
Picture a 2yr old car riding on 1.5 tires and 4 very destroyed wheels.
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Picture a 2yr old car riding on 1.5 tires and 4 very destroyed wheels.
Easy... happens at least once a week on World's Scariest Police Chases
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Old 11-29-2009, 12:09 AM   #31
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Haha! True, but a truly awe-inspiring sight in person.
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Old 11-29-2009, 12:49 AM   #32
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In your case where you watched your drunk friend drive away with a car full of people, you followed him as he drove dangerously and then HE called the Police when he flipped and almost killed them all? A real friend would have told him that if he got behind the wheel you will call the Cops and report him....and did it...or wait...how much time does it take to flatten 4 tires? Even if he was a complete stranger I would have flattened the tyres. If there is a civil trial and the Court knows what you did, you may find yourself liable for some part. I investigated 2 fatal crashes where the exact scenario you mentioned happened. The party hosts saw it happen and let the driver leave. 4 dead people resulted. ANYONE who gets drunk and drives away is a menace. Better them getting mad at you for flat tyres or a call to ther Cops, than having to live with dead or crippled people on their concience and yours. Ask them next time when they are sober...what would you rather have...dead people, and/or a criminal record or a sleep on the couch? Or how about some personal resposibility on their part before they start drinking, to plan a sober way home. BTW...the others who got into the car with a smashed driver, are as stupid as he is.



Hey, I do understand that but in the end there were some stuff I should have done but i Didn't but i learn from my mistakes.

But in the end I have realized what i should have done

But thanks for the pointers!
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Old 11-29-2009, 10:42 AM   #33
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I do thank you for your post. The confessional is now closed, say 2 hail Chevvys and go forth and do not sin again.
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My friend was drunk, so i went downtown to drive his car back for him... in the end after an hour arguement he said no..
Why did he refuse your assistance?
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If there is a civil trial and the Court knows what you did, you may find yourself liable for some part. I investigated 2 fatal crashes where the exact scenario you mentioned happened. The party hosts saw it happen and let the driver leave.
What was the outcome in that case?

In the case of Jeffield, he argued at length with his friend to stop him from drinking and driving.


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In Childs v. Desormeaux, Dwight Courrier and Julie Zimmerman
hosted a “BYOB” (Bring Your Own Booze) event.
One of their guests, Mr. Desormeaux, drove away from the
party while intoxicated. Mr. Courrier confirmed with Mr.
Desormeaux whether he was okay, and there was no evidence
that Mr. Desormeaux displayed signs of intoxication
during their brief conversation.

Soon after driving away from the party, Mr. Desormeaux
collided head-on with another vehicle. Several of the passengers
in the other car were injured, and one was killed.

The action was brought by one of the individuals injured in
the accident, Zoe Childs, against the hosts of the party.
In a unanimous decision, the Supreme Court of Canada
held that “as a general rule, a social host does not owe a
duty of care to a person injured by a guest who has consumed
alcohol.”

In the Court’s view, holding a private party at which alcohol
is served, is insufficient to implicate the host in the creation
of risk sufficient to give rise to a duty of care to third
parties who may be subsequently injured by the conduct
of a guest.

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To an intoxicated individual, small things like having a parked car towed or class 7N overcrowding can be major stumbling blocks (pun intended) to finding a safer ride home.

Partly why I feel that towing and immobilization of vehicles should be illegal and why I feel that 7N passenger limits should be enforced with discression.

The public safety minister can talk about driver distractions leading to 7N passenger restrictions all he wants, but it really isn't hard to tune out excited passengers.
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Old 11-29-2009, 02:09 PM   #36
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Why did he refuse your assistance?
I actually still think that is a mystery....

I went the extra mile already driving downtown ( when I was in richmond )

to go pick him up..

but...

he might be trying to show off to these GIRLS that all hopped in to his car...
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Old 11-29-2009, 05:25 PM   #37
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In the cases I investigated, the bad guys both died and no criminal charges were obviously laid. I did provide copies of my files to various lawyers but was never called for any civil trial. They always try to settle out of court and I'm not aware of the outcomes.
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