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01-18-2010, 05:45 PM
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Rouyn-Noranda centre Patrice Cormier has been suspended indefinitely by the Quebec Major Junior Hockey League Monday following a hit that sent Quebec Remparts defenceman Mikaël Tam to hospital.
The league said it would continue to investigate the Sunday incident, but could not say when its disciplinarian, Raymond Bolduc, would issue a ruling.
The hit is not part of the game, Remparts president Claude Rousseau said.
"It's something that is not part of the rule of hockey. It's something that, in my mind, is absolutely not acceptable," he said Monday.
Rousseau said he wants to see Cormier hit with an appropriate penalty, but wouldn't say what that should be. He said he will leave it up to league officials to decide.
No one from the league would speak about the incident, but a press release said the incident is under review.
Roy complained to police about the incident, which occurred at 3:32 of overtime in Quebec's 3-2 shootout victory on Sunday afternoon.
Quebec provincial police Sgt. Marie-Josée Ouellet said police received a call at 8 p.m. Sunday about the hit.
Investigators have not been able to speak with Tam yet, she said, but police have questioned witnesses at the rink after the game.
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01-18-2010, 05:48 PM
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#52 | | Willing to sell body for a few minutes on RS
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Originally Posted by Noir  Does Phaneuff ever change the way he plays? Does Steve Ott, Matt Cooke, Sean Avery? No. There will always be a $500,000 to $1,000,000 fighters on their team to answer the bell in their places so that they can continue to do what it is they do.
People should really stop hiding their bloodlust under the guise of chivalry. | Get rid of the instigator penalty and it will change the way they play. They do dirty shit or take liberties they'll get their face pounded in.
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01-18-2010, 11:21 PM
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#53 | | Hypa owned my ass at least once
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Originally Posted by quasi Get rid of the instigator penalty and it will change the way they play. They do dirty shit or take liberties they'll get their face pounded in. | With or without instigator penalty, every half decent roster will always have 1 or 2 enforcers to run interference; whether its for your skill players or your "avery/ott/etc." type of players.
It's what these guys (enforcers) are getting paid half a Million plus to do.
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01-18-2010, 11:35 PM
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#54 | | Need to Seek Professional Help
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fighting is what STOPS these kinds of things... everyone who has played competitive hockey understands this... without fighting there is no physical way to solve disputes in a VERY intense game. when you take the fighting out you get more high sticks, more spearing, more butt ends, and more elbows. when was the last time some one got seriously injured in a fight? if you play hockey and you dont understand this then you're not the type who ever plays physical, if this wasnt IIHF hockey then he would have never done that because he knows that if he did then someone would kick his ass on the ice.
| Somewhat agree with this. I have played goalie in both contact and non contact leagues. Seen way more dirty stuff in the non contact league that didnt allow body checking or fighting. Had a guy on my team swing at a guys head, when the guy dropped he kepting hitting the guy with his stick.
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Probably because he tells it like it is and knows hockey better than you two dipshits? People respect his opinions, not like you two dipshits? He has a solid income, not like you two dipshits?
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01-19-2010, 12:26 AM
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#55 | | I'm like the Fred Astaire of Revscene
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The evidence is even prevalent with the different styles in Canadian junior hockey, the QMJHL has less hitting and fighting compared to the WHL and OHL yet the instances of violence which get followed by assault charges is far higher then any of the other leagues, and suprise!... Patrice Cormier is in the QMJHL. I'm sorry but when Phaneuf was on patrol for the Red Deer Rebels someone like Cormier would have thought twice about doing something as disgusting as he did.
here's two articles out of many from the past year where QMJHL players are having charges pressed against them for excessive violence. http://hfboards.com/archive//t-682088.html - french news report
(taken from link) After 2 cross-checks, the player added another hit with his stick at the face of the "victim". According to the judge, this last shot was "too much and dangerous", and "severe enough to be considered criminal". The Crown says that "no athlete in any sport can be over the laws". http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/2008/07/31/roy_assault/#
"After being restrained briefly by an official, Jonathan Roy skated to the Chicoutimi goal, pulled off Nadeau's mask and threw several punches, even when the Sagueneens goalie was on the ice."
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01-19-2010, 12:30 AM
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#56 | | NA1
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Join the UFC if he wants to fight so bad. See how tough he is in there.
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01-19-2010, 12:59 AM
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#57 | | Diagonally parked in a parallel universe
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Originally Posted by StylinRed how is this cocksucker not in jail.. jesus | cos he did something thats allowed in hockey. its an infraction but is part of the game. anything that is a part of the game should not involve cops ie. fighting, hit from behind, slashing. all these are considered penalities within the game no matter the severity. pro hockey is a goon sport and gets very little respect for good reasons. dont get me wrong, i been playing hockey for 15 years and still do but at the pro level its just plain dirty and has no sportsmanship at all
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01-19-2010, 01:08 AM
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#58 | | To me, there is the Internet and there is RS
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Originally Posted by freakshow If that's true, then hockey players are really a sad bunch; you're saying that they're so immature that they're unable to control their emotions and need to resolve things with their fists. Maybe we can introduce fighting to all physical sports at all age levels, then we could solve our issues by fighting it out!
I understand that fighting is part of the game, I'm just saying it shouldn't be. | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lM-5qbFBXEc http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aWZG82FQflg http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SdpBYmkbohw http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YerDjw3Lo8A http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BLf-ny2I-SY
Yep only hockey players are a sad bunch. 
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01-19-2010, 01:36 PM
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#59 | | Willing to sell body for a few minutes on RS
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Originally Posted by Noir With or without instigator penalty, every half decent roster will always have 1 or 2 enforcers to run interference; whether its for your skill players or your "avery/ott/etc." type of players.
It's what these guys (enforcers) are getting paid half a Million plus to do. | It's not the same though. You touched Gretsky back in the day and you got smashed right then and there, your enforcer took a penalty and that was the end of it. It's totally different now, you can take liberties and you don't have to answer the bell you just stand there, take a punch and the other guy will get a 5 minute penalty, tossed from the game and possibly a fine.
Basically what you have is enforcer vs enforcer as opposed to enforcer vs offender unless of course the offender is a fighter but they usually aren't. The way it is right now players like Ott, Cooke and Ruutu can run around doing dirty shit and not have to answer for it if they don't want to. Just the opposite since they can do something dirty and then if they get attacked just stand there, take a punch and draw a penalty from the other team, powerplay is the reward.
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