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Kamui712 01-25-2010 11:23 PM

What am I doing wrong? *pics*
 
Very Very Amateur photographer here. Previously had really poor, blurry pictures in dim lighting, I thought that the reason was my lens 50-200mm lens. So here at dinner I'm using a 50mm 1.8f prime on a Canon XTi.

Apperature is at 1.8, iso 1600. Pictures are clear, yet the color is dull, and rather dark. What can I do to get some nice vivid colors?

*ignore the bad framing and everything, I would just like to know how to get some good lighting and colors going.

Your input is appreciated!

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e1...2/IMG_2117.jpg
http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e1...2/IMG_2130.jpg
http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e1...2/IMG_2151.jpg
http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e1...2/IMG_2192.jpg

Senna4ever 01-26-2010 01:16 AM

You need to set your white balance to whatever the light in the restaurant is - probably tungsten. If you shot these in RAW, then you can go back and change it.

Hehe 01-26-2010 01:40 AM

^
Werd~ RAW is your best friend and memory cards are dirt cheap these days.

Regarding the shots, pics need more purpose and be more playful with lights. Photography is an art of light capture. Purpose as the main thing you want to describe in the shot.

Last but not least, google "photography composition" and play around with them.

Dangerphoto 01-26-2010 03:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Senna4ever (Post 6788117)
You need to set your white balance to whatever the light in the restaurant is - probably tungsten. If you shot these in RAW, then you can go back and change it.

Question: Just RAW or RAW + L ....which is better?

hud 91gt 01-26-2010 04:54 AM

I beleive the RAW + L will take a Jpeg as well as a RAW image...

Hehe 01-26-2010 09:06 AM

I shoot RAW only. You would want to output your own RAW-->JPG anyway. Softwares offer better conversion than in-camera.

keitaro 01-26-2010 09:28 AM

shooting with such a high ISO will cause noise. Its not as noticeable on your smaller images. Getting a flash and bouncing it would improve your image. It would also solve your blurry images in dim lighting.

CP.AR 01-26-2010 10:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by keitaro (Post 6788358)
shooting with such a high ISO will cause noise. Its not as noticeable on your smaller images. Getting a flash and bouncing it would improve your image. It would also solve your blurry images in dim lighting.

Agreed, especially with the XTi's Digic 2 processor, ISO 1600 should only be a last resort

keitaro 01-26-2010 10:21 AM

If you do shoot JPEG and feel that you don't want to use RAW, you can use adobe photoshop lightroom to adjust your white balance, exposure, saturation, etc. Just a little post processing can improve an image. Just don't over do it.

If your going to shoot raw, your going to have to spend more time post processing in lightroom/bridge/photoshop. In the end, you get more flexibility and quality in an image. I personally shoot strictly in RAW only.

$_$ 01-26-2010 10:40 AM

Haha.... I hear all the pros shoot in only RAW...

keitaro 01-26-2010 11:25 AM

^ if your serious about photography, raw is the best option and choice.

here is a good article on why raw is better
http://www.luminous-landscape.com/re...mera-raw.shtml

Levitron 01-26-2010 06:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kamui712 (Post 6787985)
Very Very Amateur photographer here. Previously had really poor, blurry pictures in dim lighting, I thought that the reason was my lens 50-200mm lens. So here at dinner I'm using a 50mm 1.8f prime on a Canon XTi.

Apperature is at 1.8, iso 1600. Pictures are clear, yet the color is dull, and rather dark. What can I do to get some nice vivid colors?

*ignore the bad framing and everything, I would just like to know how to get some good lighting and colors going.

Your input is appreciated!

To answer your question, the best thing to keep in mind for your pictures is the fact that without good lighting, you simply aren't going to get "nice vivid colors".

Your picture will only be as good as the light that touches your sensor...and the light that exists in a dimly lit restaurant is not enough to make those vivid colors fly out at you.

vietfx 01-26-2010 06:11 PM

Invest into a hotshoe flash

Kamui712 01-27-2010 11:41 PM

thanks for all the replies guys, I did some tests in shooting jpeg vs raw and there is definitely more flexibility and higher quality with RAW.

regarding flash and lighting, what are your feelings around using those ebay diffusers for the on-camera flash?

Hot shoe flashes tend to be a little bigger than my liking

http://images.channeladvisor.com/Sel...M-MIS003_a.jpg
http://trade.skyhillhk.com/flash_diff10_02_f.jpg
http://imgs.inkfrog.com/pix/gamerlined66/HI-pop.jpg

Senna4ever 01-27-2010 11:50 PM

^^ Those will help a bit, but because the original light source is so small, there are only very limited things that can be done.

Hehe 01-28-2010 10:42 AM

Yeah, invest in a small and cheap flash. In Nikon, we have a SB400. I carry it around with my D700. It's better than in camera flash and gets a lot of thing done without the bulky-ness.

Canon I think they have a 2x0-EX flash?

keitaro 01-28-2010 11:10 AM

^Canon has the 430EX II as an entry level flash. the 580EX II Prosumer model.

hoking 01-28-2010 11:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by keitaro (Post 6791835)
^Canon has the 430EX II as an entry level flash. the 580EX II Prosumer model.

^ he mentioned he doesn't want to lug around even something like the 430ex II

smaller option would be the 270ex

http://media.the-digital-picture.com...lite-Flash.jpg

77civic1200 01-28-2010 11:29 AM

^entry level is the 270EX as he was saying:

http://www.bccamera.com/index.php?ma...oducts_id=3505

keitaro 01-28-2010 11:51 AM

^ yea i just realized that now. you can't really call it a useful flash. It produces the same power as your on-board pop-up flash.

the minimum that should be bought is the 430.

ecchiecchi 01-28-2010 12:21 PM

^ Can you even change the angle of the 270EX?

Might as well invest in a 480EX. =]

hoking 01-28-2010 12:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by keitaro (Post 6791873)
^ yea i just realized that now. you can't really call it a useful flash. It produces the same power as your on-board pop-up flash.

the minimum that should be bought is the 430.

not really, the 270 has wider coverage and longer distance then a regular pop-up flash,.. and it does have the bounce flash ability

77civic1200 01-28-2010 01:58 PM

XTi flash has a guide number of 13m
The 270ex has a guide number of 27m

I would hardly call those the same power?

keitaro 01-28-2010 02:45 PM

^ i was wrong. I admit it. I just remembering reading somewhere that it was a weak flash.

I still standby the 430EX as a minimum for a ext flash.

Hehe 01-28-2010 03:32 PM

^

Yeah, a full size flash like 430EX is great for proper flash jobs. But the OP is just starting. His photography style might not even need a flash at all.

I have a full set of SB800+SB600 combo, but that's not what I carry around in my bag. I only carry them when I know I'm gonna need them. Hence a suggestion of small flash like 270EX/SB400. These little flashes are a lot cheaper and way more versatile than the in-cam one.

I got my SB400 for like 85USD shipped. It's a great little unit to have it in your bag for the unforeseen event of a flash need.


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