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GabAlmighty 02-04-2010 07:42 PM

Cutting Springs
 
What's everyones opinion on doing this? Want to get a discussion going about how people feel about this (although i kinda have a feelings I know how it's gonna go).

SpuGen 02-04-2010 07:46 PM

Custom Bilstein.
Do it.

Presto 02-04-2010 07:46 PM

Where's the "back of the hand" button? That's what i want to give you.

Hondaracer 02-04-2010 07:50 PM

meh, if you do it right im sure it's fine

the other day i drove my old civic that my brother drives now, it has some shit lowering springs in it at like -2.25 all around, theyve been in that car for like 4 years now on the same shocks and the ride is better than almost all non-adjustable coil over's i've ridden in [on other civics]

TRD Rs200 02-04-2010 07:55 PM

used springs are usually ~$100. dont be cheap when it comes to modding your car. its for your own safety too

GabAlmighty 02-04-2010 07:55 PM

Ya, this came up on my other forum. Lots of nay sayers, but on the surface there isn't much difference with this and a lowering spring. I mean it's a shit ride and is bouncy. But, as far as cheap aesthetic mods that give you improved handling I dont see anything terribly wrong with it. I should be doing it saturday, will update.

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Originally Posted by SpuGen (Post 6803678)
Custom Bilstein.
Do it.

The price it would cost me for a full set of bilsteins custom valved for my applicationt it would be worth it for me to just shell out the extra money and get proper coilovers

iamaudi 02-04-2010 07:57 PM

Cutting springs is cutting corners, bad idea.

GabAlmighty 02-04-2010 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by TRD Rs200 (Post 6803697)
used springs are usually ~$100. dont be cheap when it comes to modding your car. its for your own safety too

Don't have 100. Plus, they're usually round 150-200 for lowering springs for me.

GabAlmighty 02-04-2010 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by $$$$$$$ (Post 6803704)
Cutting springs is cutting corners, bad idea.

So are lowering springs, similar..

LenovoTurbo 02-04-2010 08:13 PM

Cutting stock springs won't change the spring rate or will it? If it doesn't your car will bounce up and down and bottom out easily.

If you decide to cut, use the old hack saw way because using a cutting torch may weaken the strength of the springs.

Lowering springs have higher spring rates which have less chance of you bottoming out from less bouncing up and down.

supman7 02-04-2010 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by GabAlmighty (Post 6803705)
Don't have 100. Plus, they're usually round 150-200 for lowering springs for me.

If you don't have the money then don't do it. Save up and do it right.

CorneringArtist 02-04-2010 08:17 PM

I have a choice with my car: Get used springs off of another car that work (but are VERY limited in availability), or pay out the ass for a suspension setup because they don't make lowering springs or coilovers for my car so I have to put something together out of generic race springs (trust me, there's no clean cut suspension for my car, they only have coilovers for the FRONT, and they aren't exactly name brand).

b-dub 02-04-2010 08:37 PM

Don't listen to the nay sayer's. Cutting springs was popular 10 years ago. It's not that popular anymore because of marketing guru's from (suspension company) that tells people that it's terrible for their car.

I've always cut springs on all my cars including my M3 and G35c. Best thing about cutting springs, you decide how long you go and most of the time the suspension is already settled.

ncrx 02-04-2010 08:37 PM

just get GC's, they'll fit nearly anything

Mr.Jay 02-04-2010 08:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IntegRice (Post 6803730)
Cutting stock springs won't change the spring rate or will it? If it doesn't your car will bounce up and down and bottom out easily.

If you decide to cut, use the old hack saw way because using a cutting torch may weaken the strength of the springs.

Lowering springs have higher spring rates which have less chance of you bottoming out from less bouncing up and down.

My Civic came with cut springs. The ride was stupid bouncy. Every bump it would be close to bottoming out unless I took it real easy.

I don't recommend it.

Mugen EvOlutioN 02-04-2010 09:41 PM

cutting springs is ghetto to the max

GabAlmighty 02-04-2010 10:08 PM

My old car now has cut springs, it is really bumpy. I have no misconceptions about the shitty rideability. You can use a grinder you just gotta be careful, like you said, to heat it up and thus making the springs useless.

Mugen, you don't seem to understand. Ghetto is the only way with my car... And with some more "ghetto" mods it will probably out handle a few cars on an autox track; stacking swaybars comes to mind, as well as welded diff's. Hell, maybe even a turbo setup from the jy.

skyxx 02-04-2010 10:09 PM

Back in my dad's days, they used to cut springs and do all sort of Hack mods. :lol Do it at your own risk, don't come crying to Revscene. :lol

GabAlmighty 02-04-2010 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by skyxx (Post 6803959)
Back in my dad's days, they used to cut springs and do all sort of Hack mods. :lol Do it at your own risk, don't come crying to Revscene. :lol

Oh I wont haha. The only thing i'm really worried about is having the springs come out of their perches if I get it airborne, but I haven't really heard any stories of that happening so who knows. Gonna use a seatbelt and make a travel limiter eventually.

Jackygor 02-04-2010 11:48 PM

Cutting springs will shorting your travel distance therefore making your car handle worst. You could prematurely blow your struts as the the spring rate is now changed...but its really the same as lower springs, most people don't lower there cars to improve handling anyways, go for it.

orgasm_donor 02-04-2010 11:54 PM

If you like 'Uncle Buck suspension' then by all means....bounce away!

GabAlmighty 02-04-2010 11:56 PM

Jackie, it wont handle worse.. I've been in a car that had uncut then cut springs, it isn't the best, but like you said; no different than lowering springs. The wagon was on lowering springs and that thing out handle alot of ish...

And my shocks and struts are already fucked up (it's like driving a caddy) so I honestly don't give two shits about them.

GabAlmighty 02-04-2010 11:57 PM

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Originally Posted by orgasm_donor (Post 6804148)
If you like 'Uncle Buck suspension' then by all means....bounce away!

I ALWAYS bounce with my car haha

!e.lo_ 02-05-2010 02:24 AM

whoa whoa... this isn't fuckin 1960/70's.
i hear stories of my dad and uncle's friends who would chop springs on old toyotas and datsuns. fuckin rode like shit but it looked ill.

in a physics standpoint, cutting a spring is just horrible.
springrate isn't increased, causing more stress on shock absorber components. also, with a lowered ride on stock shocks, the gas is always under load, causing it to wear faster and theres a HIGH chance they'll just blow.

btw, lowered ride does NOT equal better handling. many many other factors come into play. suspension geometry mainly.

b-dub 02-05-2010 03:17 AM

When I cut my suspension on my M3 it improved the performance alot! I could take the corners faster and it felt more stable to the ground.

This is a good DIY mod!


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