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JeffK 02-22-2010 06:40 PM

empire vehicle solutions
 
anyone ever use this company?

They called me today asking about a car i have forsale.

I've tried to do research/searchs on google and found several forum's with threads, but when I goto the thread, its been deleted.

In one case, the admin had edited the post, deleting everything and saying how EVS threatened lawsuits.

so anyone here have an opinion/experience?

thx

eurochevy 02-22-2010 07:07 PM

they call you like every day diff person and even when u tell them no and to stop calling someone else from them calls u any way..i had 3 calls in 1 day even i was like ok seriously fuck off ....honestly it seems like a total bullshit thing

Graeme S 02-22-2010 07:10 PM

That's the company where you pay them and they promise to list and sell your car and if they don't they'll give you your money back, right?


Anyone who's looking to do that is spewing utter bullshit. The only time you should offer money to someone in order to sell something is as/after it is sold. Anyone asking for money up front is scamming your ass.
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1exotic 02-22-2010 07:33 PM

http://img211.imageshack.us/img211/9...4730341933.jpg


http://img63.imageshack.us/img63/6852/tiresalesmanr.jpg

nack 02-22-2010 07:45 PM

im the one that called, give me your car and i will GAREEE ANTEEEEEEE you a sale within a week :{D

JeffK 02-22-2010 08:18 PM

only spoke with them (her) for a quick chat, asked her to call back tomorrow so i could have some time to investigate :)

from the deleted threads and threats of lawsuits, pretty save to say we'll not be using them!

Nvasion 02-22-2010 08:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JeffK (Post 6827734)
only spoke with them (her) for a quick chat, asked her to call back tomorrow so i could have some time to investigate :)

from the deleted threads and threats of lawsuits, pretty save to say we'll not be using them!

``safe``

JeffK 02-22-2010 08:30 PM

right, that too :)

NeoDestinyZ 02-22-2010 11:26 PM

Stay away from those, especially Global Auto Registry. All bunch of scammers, just try to sell it locally or online private.

jlenko 02-23-2010 12:02 AM

I've been contacted by them, and other similar companies, in the past when I was selling cars on the Buy & Sell website.

A friend of mine had used their 'services' in the past. They did not sell his car, but they were more than happy to take his money. It was not returned. He sold the car on his own, with no help from them whatsoever.

From what I can gather.. they pretty much spam mail everyone who is trying to sell a car, trying to find suckers who will give them money. It may sound good if you're hurting to sell the vehicle.. but you'll probably have more luck selling it yourself if you just lower the price instead of falling for their sales pitch.

Jsunu 02-23-2010 09:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jlenko (Post 6828067)
I've been contacted by them, and other similar companies, in the past when I was selling cars on the Buy & Sell website.

A friend of mine had used their 'services' in the past. They did not sell his car, but they were more than happy to take his money. It was not returned. He sold the car on his own, with no help from them whatsoever.

From what I can gather.. they pretty much spam mail everyone who is trying to sell a car, trying to find suckers who will give them money. It may sound good if you're hurting to sell the vehicle.. but you'll probably have more luck selling it yourself if you just lower the price instead of falling for their sales pitch.

How do they stay in business, isn't this basically a scam? Unless the owners sign papers indicating that they keep the fee.

ziggyx 02-23-2010 09:31 AM

I heard the most they will do for you after you pay them is post your car on craigslist again or some other free site which is something you can pretty much do on your own. Also keep in mind they'll only do this if they feel nice. lol Other than that its a complete scam.

JeffK 02-23-2010 09:31 AM

@ the end of my call with the lady yesterday i asked her how they make money.

She said that basically they are a financing company. So that's how they do it.

My guess is they offer people with no/bad credit the ability to buy a car, and then push 'their' cars on them.

I expect a call back from her today, in which case i'll be telling her thanks but no thanks based on the shady threats of lawsuits for online postings, etc...

we'll see what she has to say :)

jlenko 02-23-2010 10:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JeffK (Post 6828344)
basically they are a financing company. So that's how they do it.

My guess is they offer people with no/bad credit the ability to buy a car, and then push 'their' cars on them.

Makes sense... that's the other half of the company. Hell of a way to do it...

JeffK 02-23-2010 10:44 AM

So they called a little while ago...

I had to interupt her speech in order to discuss the findings of lawsuits, etc... that I found last night.

She was able to speak about the lawsuit, which i found here:

http://forum.calgarypuck.com/showthread.php?t=70155

She said it wasn't based on any actual complaints, but rather an incorrect use of the company name.

I have no way to confirm if this is true or not.

I then told her that I was not willing to sign anything with them. I explained that we have a finders fee of 500 dollars included in the ad and if they want to sell my car, i'll gladly give them the 500 bux.

She asked if she could put me on hold while she spoke to her manager about the finders fee.

a minute later, a guy answers the phone and starts to discuss the car, asks questions, etc... Sounds good!!

and then he says 'So most of our customers use visa/mastercard, which will you be using today?'

wtf?! I said, neither... didn't the other lady explain to you that im not willing to give you people money upfront?!

So he tried to make me a deal, giving me the same price as if i was selling mutilple cars, etc... Not super pushy, but definately trying to get me to sign.

In the end, he finally got the idea that there wasn't any way he was getting my cash right now and he ended the call.

The other thing thats worth mentioning is that he stressed that when they do their ad's, it says something like:

audi for sale, 13,000 or 200 a month OAC.

So of course most people will go for the financing/credit route.

Also, the lady mentioned several times that they had received mutliple inquries about my style of vehicle. I have no idea if this is in fact true, or simply a sales tatic.

btw: here's the car... someone buy it already :)

http://www.revscene.net/forums/fs-20...i-t606781.html

unit 02-23-2010 10:49 AM

hi guys, i wrote a little review of them last year. check it out and judge for yourself.

http://www.revscene.net/forums/empir...empirevehicles

JeffK 02-23-2010 11:20 AM

Thx for the link to your experience Unit...

Sounds like we had pretty much the exact same dealing

NeoDestinyZ 02-23-2010 12:08 PM

If anybody gets scam from companies like these, you guys can go to:

http://www.bbb.org/canada/ (they can help you talk to the company and try to get back your money and give them bad reps.)

http://www.consumerprotectionbc.ca/

Also you can threaten them with these companies and lawyers etc.

kj604 05-04-2011 04:48 PM

I just recieved a call from these guyz today!! Sounds too good to be true... and most of the time they are!!

davestar27 05-21-2011 02:32 PM

I wanted to post regarding the Empire vehicle solutions stuff that I was reading mainly B/C I was a victim of their scam as well .

davestar27 05-21-2011 02:55 PM

I have a friend at major TV network that I am going to contact regarding these crooks; If anything they have made it harder to sell my car B/C of their inept posting of it on C L using stock pics of my truck instead of my own, and lame description of the details as well. They say they can help finance but every person that was seriously interested and contacted empire about financing was put off the sale after speaking with their sales reps . And may I add that the only interest I have had was through the ads that I myself have posted!! What about all these sites that they supposedly post your car on for you? Whats even worse is that Craigslist is blocking me from reposting because of multiple postings for the same Truck so tell me do these guys just take your money? no !! they screw up your rep on CL and make it hard for a buyer to find you credible. I think they need to be investigated thoroughly...

Rdk1 08-23-2012 11:19 AM

wow.

thank goodness I did some research before.
They just called me... I was hesistant and called back and asked some questions. Then read this. People need to know more about this, other forums have removed posts about this company I think because EVS themselves goes and sends a letter to the forums themselves for slander...etc.

sonick 08-23-2012 11:23 AM

I am pretty sure the guy who owns (or at least weorks) Empire lives in my building. I see a parking spot with a different car every few days, all with "Empire" license plate frames

Rdk1 08-23-2012 11:43 AM

http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-604-583-3524

To save people more time from being harassed.

nabs 08-23-2012 12:34 PM

lol, i was selling car, they called me, im like i have no money thats why im selling car, they are like you have no money at all, im like wtf if your problem my financial situation is mine, he's like well what about the money you get from selling the car, we can guarentee you more money if you sell with us... i just hung up.


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