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Old 02-26-2010, 11:26 AM   #26
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Well, first I start with a quality steak. USDA Choice at a minimum. Certified Black Angus is never a bad way to go. I like a ribeye or a KC strip, about 14 ounces. I season it with nothing more than kosher salt, fresh ground black pepper and some granulated garlic. Then I grill it approximately 2 minutes on one side, turn it over, approximately two minutes on the other side. Then I turn it back over to give perfect diamond shaped cross-hatches for a minute or two. Then back to the other side until internal temperature reads 98.6 on a probe thermometer. That's somewhat rarer than rare. Then I like to make a salad of steamed and chilled green beans and asparagus, heirloom tomatoes, fresh basil, sliced red onion, balsamic vinegar and extra virgin olive oil, seasoned with kosher salt and fresh ground black pepper and pile the salad on top of the steak, allowing the balsamic vinegar and olive oil to pool up on the plate with the natural juices from the steak and create its own sauce.
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i had success cooking it last night

and was amazed by the garlic and butter on the steak ... it was sooo good
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1)Make sure when picking your steaks, they are at least AAA u need at least decent marbling or its not even worth the money or time.
2)Season your steak, i like Maldon or koshur for my salt, and fresh cracked pepper.
3)Let it rest before cooking(allow it to come to room temperature, it allows for even cooking), and pat dry, nothing sucks more then boiling your steak *puke*
4)cast iron pan (every kitchen should have one, as well as a wok) wait for the pan to be screaming hot (enough that when u drop water in it, it turns into balls) canola or lard, just enough to cover the pan
5) SEAR this is where the magic happens!! Make sure u let the steak get a hard sear, if u try to pick it up and it sticks, its not ready! once the browning is beautiful, flip often in order to move the blood evenly
6)slam that puppy in a hot oven 400 at lest to get to your desired doneness, i like to hand test it or thermo to get it perfect and as well flip often in the oven, no one wants a steak thts mid rare around but blue in the middle
7)Rest for at least 10 to 15 min on a wired rack (extremely important cause you will get that blood that will leave your steak make that beautiful sear soggy) covered in tin foil.
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important step that almost everyone forgot. always rest your steaks. undercook your steaks a bit short of medium rare because the steak will keep cooking when you're resting it.


if you don't have a rack. use a smaller plate flipped upside down on a bigger plate. put steak on smaller plate. just lets the steak juice drip down. shouldn't be too much juice if you cooked it right.
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Yeah go ahead and fry a steak in olive oil you dumb cunt
Burning any cooking oil can be bad for you. You shouldn't be using Extra Virgin Olive oil for frying as it has a lower smoke point. (420 degrees as opposed to just a regular olive oil which is ~450)

And you said "any plant seed oil is bad for you". There is no way in hell that olive oil is bad for you, to say so would be such a stupid and ignorant statement and I hope noone on this site takes that type of advice seriously.
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important step that almost everyone forgot. always rest your steaks. undercook your steaks a bit short of medium rare because the steak will keep cooking when you're resting it.


if you don't have a rack. use a smaller plate flipped upside down on a bigger plate. put steak on smaller plate. just lets the steak juice drip down. shouldn't be too much juice if you cooked it right.
err, shouldnt you leave it in a shallow dish to let it resoak all the juices?
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Burning any cooking oil can be bad for you. You shouldn't be using Extra Virgin Olive oil for frying as it has a lower smoke point. (420 degrees as opposed to just a regular olive oil which is ~450)

And you said "any plant seed oil is bad for you". There is no way in hell that olive oil is bad for you, to say so would be such a stupid and ignorant statement and I hope noone on this site takes that type of advice seriously.
I never said all plant oil is bad for you, I said it's bad for COOKING. This thread is about COOKING A STEAK and COOKING AT HIGH HEAT. Things like olive oil, and oils that are actually natural and real are PERFECTLY FINE. But the ones that are used for high heat cooking (rape oil, sunflower, soybean) are NOT.

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Nothing to do with the actual cooking process but...
soak it in COCA COLA before marinating to make the meat more tender.
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Nothing to do with the actual cooking process but...
soak it in COCA COLA before marinating to make the meat more tender.
My buddy does the same, but with a can of molson. It's a great idea if you have a cheap cut of steak. Otherwise, skip this and go with a good cut of steak.
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^ fuck that coca cola and beer shit. When making steaks, why be cheap about it?
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^ fuck that coca cola and beer shit. When making steaks, why be cheap about it?
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Why be cheap about it? Not everyone has a good butcher shop to go to. Sometimes you're stuck with a craving for steak and the only thing open around you at 11:30 at night is the fucking save on foods. But min.tee is right. Get a good cut of steak. Good marbling goes a long long way to having a steak that melts in your mouth.
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Soak it in coca cola...............

If you want to make a cheap cut more tender, get a meat tenderizer and slam it good.

Or soak it in a brine solution with a bunch of flavours for a couple of hours (i.e//celery, garlic, etc)
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i usually get filet mignons from costco (4-5 thick steaks cost around $30) and put some seasoning on it. warm the bbq up to about 600 and cook each side for 6-7 mins at 425-475. let it rest and then enjoy
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I never said all plant oil is bad for you, I said it's bad for COOKING. This thread is about COOKING A STEAK and COOKING AT HIGH HEAT. Things like olive oil, and oils that are actually natural and real are PERFECTLY FINE. But the ones that are used for high heat cooking (rape oil, sunflower, soybean) are NOT.

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Almond oil 420F 216C
Avocado oil 520F 271C
Butter 350F 177C
Canola oil Expeller Press 464F 240C
Canola oil High Oleic 475F 246C
Canola oil Refined 470F 240C
Coconut oil Unrefined 350F 177C
Coconut oil Refined 450F 232C
Corn oil Unrefined 320F 160C
Corn oil Refined 450F 232C
Cottonseed oil 420F 216C
Flax seed oil Unrefined 225F 107C
Ghee (Indian Clarified Butter) 485F 252C
Grapeseed oil 420F 216C
Hazelnut oil 430F 221C
Hemp oil 330F 165C
Lard 370F 182C
Macadamia oil 413F 210C
Olive oil Extra virgin 375F 191C
Olive oil Virgin 420F 216C
Olive oil Pomace 460F 238C
Olive oil Extra light 468F 242C
Olive oil, high quality (low acidity) Extra virgin 405F 207C[/b]
Palm oil Difractionated 455F 235C
Peanut oil Unrefined 320F 160C
Peanut oil Refined 450F 232C
Rice bran oil 490F 254C
Safflower oil Unrefined 225F 107C
Safflower oil Semirefined 320F 160C
Safflower oil Refined 510F 266C
Sesame oil Unrefined 350F 177C
Sesame oil Semirefined 450F 232C
Soybean oil Unrefined 320F 160C
Soybean oil Semirefined 350F 177C
Soybean oil Refined 450F 232C
Sunflower oil Unrefined 225F 107C
Sunflower oil Semirefined 450F 232C
Sunflower oil, high oleic Unrefined 320F 160C
Sunflower oil Refined 450F 232C
Tea seed oil 485F 252C
Vegetable shortening 360F 182C
Walnut oil Unrefined 320F 160C
Walnut oil Semirefined 400F 204C

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Again, there is nothing wrong with frying in olive oil. As long as you are using the proper grade, and it's pure and depends on what your frying.

Also Greece has by far the largest per capita consumption of olive oil worldwide, over 26 liters per year; Spain and Italy, around 14 l

Also the life expactancy of greece italy and spain hover around the top 20. And I can assure you that their risk of heart disease and other ailments is also lower than other countries.
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Also Greece has by far the largest per capita consumption of olive oil worldwide, over 26 liters per year; Spain and Italy, around 14 l

Also the life expactancy of greece italy and spain hover around the top 20. And I can assure you that their risk of heart disease and other ailments is also lower than other countries.
Japanese cuisine uses no olive oil, and their life expectancy is #1 in the world, and the incidence of heart disease is also among the lowest. What's your point?
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Japanese cuisine uses no olive oil, and their life expectancy is #1 in the world, and the incidence of heart disease is also among the lowest. What's your point?
that frying in olive oil isn't bad for you.
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Ok lets put this to a rest

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Q: Does frying food in certain oils damage the oil (i.e. turn the oil into trans fatty acids or, somehow make the oil unhealthy to eat)?

A: The level in which it's "safe" to expose oil to heat greatly depends on the oil's structure (monounsaturated, polyunsaturated, and saturated). First let's look at what can happen to oils when they're heated and then we'll discuss the types of oils that we should be using.

The initial concern of many people (including the person who sent in the question) is that heating an oil will result in the formation of trans fatty acids.



This is a viable concern because these unnatural fats have no place in a person's diet.

Here's an interesting story about nutritional advice and trans fats (humor me and keep reading).

A couple months ago I caught a dietitian being interviewed on a local TV show about proper nutrition for the average person. In the interview she stated that a person should NEVER consume alcohol and they should minimize their trans fat consumption. Call me crazy but shouldn't it be the other way around?? I can think of 3 reasons off the top of my head why alcohol in moderation is beneficial and ZERO reasons for ingesting trans fats. The moral of the story: Just because they have a degree and are on TV doesn't mean their word should be taken as gospel.

Okay, sorry to digress.

Heating oils will lead to the formation of trans fatty acids, but this isn't main problem.

What is really a concern is the oxidation of the fats and the formation of free radicals. Having excess free radicals bouncing around your system is a bad idea. Free radicals have been accused of being a huge player in cancer, heart disease, and aging (to name a few).

How can you prevent trans fatty acid formation and oxidation? Here are a couple steps and tips that you can use to keep your healthy fats healthy while cooking:

1) Reduce the heat. Most of us are always on the go. This can often result in quick food preparation. One of the easiest ways to cook something faster is to cook it at a higher heat. I know, I'm guilty of this all the time. It seems like the burner on my stove top has two settings off and very high. Taking the extra time to cook your foods over medium heat will help curb heat induced oxidation of your foods and fats.

2) Add a little water to the pan. This great tip comes from Udo Erasmus. Keeping a little water in your pan will allow you to keep the temperature below 212F (otherwise the water will boil off). Controlling the heat this way can help reduce damage to the oils.

3) Select your cooking oils carefully. The more double bonds (or unsaturated) an oil has, the easier it's oxidized. This is why cooking with flax or fish oil is a HUGE mistake. Cooking with olive oils is a fine choice; just don't blast them with heat. I recommend that you have two types of olive oil in your cabinet: extra virgin and virgin. The extra virgin is the more pure, less refined of the two and should be used on cold foods (salads, protein shakes, etc.) or after the foods have been cooked (on top of steamed vegetables). Virgin olive oil has been processed a little more and is thus usually cheaper. This is the better choice to use for cooking because you won't be paying extra for the antioxidants and phytochemicals that will just end up being damaged and/or destroyed during the heating process (as would be the case with extra virgin olive oil).

For high-heat cooking purposes, saturated fats (coconut oil or butter) or heat-stable oils such as peanut or avocado oil are good choices.
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My main point wasn't even about health, it was the fact that vegetable oils taste worse than animal fat when cooking with them
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i agree with that.

try frying eggs in olive oil though
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try frying an egg in coconut oil..
so tasty
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try frying an egg in coconut oil..
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I like to fry/scramble my eggs in the left over grease from my bacon.
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err, shouldnt you leave it in a shallow dish to let it resoak all the juices?
juice of a steak will not go back into the steak, it is not a fucking sponge.
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I like to fry/scramble my eggs in the left over grease from my bacon.
Fry your bacon in coconut oil then fry your eggs in that. It's about as food gets
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why fry bacon in oil? it releases enough fat on its own.

i always fry eggs in butter. i dont like doing it in bacon fat because it makes the eggs look kinda nasty.
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