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Manic! 03-07-2010 02:54 AM

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Originally Posted by SumAznGuy (Post 6847371)
A black light will catch most of the fake bills too. It's very hard for criminals to get their hands on paper that doesn't shine under a black light.

Sun tan lotion. Criminals put that in the paper so it does not shine under black light.

Just check for ridges because no printer can print that.

Manic! 03-07-2010 02:55 AM

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Originally Posted by TOS'd (Post 6847508)
Does the whole rubbing bill on piece of paper, for the $50 dunno if it works on the $100, work? Like when you rub a $50, the red goes onto the paper. Or are fake ones able to do that.

Does not work.

JSALES 03-07-2010 03:06 AM

damn that sucks.

did these young looking natives look like the natives at broadway by any chance?

Shun Izaki 03-07-2010 04:20 AM

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Originally Posted by bcrdukes (Post 6847444)
My general rule of thumb to be safe from losers on Craigslist:

No phone number = No deal. This includes blocked numbers.

this is what prepaid/stolen sim's are for...

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Originally Posted by Captain Picard (Post 6847484)
I've sold quite a few high value items on CL involving 100s and 50s, but I 've never run into this problem. Nevertheless, I check everytime before handing my stuff over (I tell buyer ahead of time over e-mail that I will be doing a quick check on the bills when I get them).

Here are some of the quick checks I go over:
- check for the raised studs on the corners
- check hologram and see if it matches the bill value (I remember on the news a while back that criminals were splicing 5 dollar holograms onto fake 50s)
- Run fingers through bill for texture
- hold random bills up to lit cellphone screen/flashlight for watermark

hope it helps! CL isn't as infested with retards anymore, so I'm surprised you caught the bad crop

the raised studs was a funny one, saw a guy using spherical pins in the pattern that he wanted, so he could create the raised studs, and they'd last for the day or so...

if you to dealextreme, you can get a pocket sizd UV light (albeit 3UV LED's) but still works to see the 50/100 flourenscent hologram

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Originally Posted by MelonBoy (Post 6847486)
my rule of thumb is meet at the guys house.. anything goes down I know where he lives..

fake house? XD

Quote:

Originally Posted by TOS'd (Post 6847508)
Does the whole rubbing bill on piece of paper, for the $50 dunno if it works on the $100, work? Like when you rub a $50, the red goes onto the paper. Or are fake ones able to do that.

it worked for the previous generation and the one before it... these new ones depending if they're first prints, or the ones after (like that whole fiasco about the $5 having different borders etc) will or will not

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Originally Posted by Manic! (Post 6847569)
Does not work.

depends on the print, check my quote above.




Looking back, this makes me seem like a criminal, i guess this is what i get for being a paranoid schizo after getting ripped off one time

MWR34 03-07-2010 04:21 AM

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Originally Posted by SumAznGuy (Post 6847371)
A black light will catch most of the fake bills too. It's very hard for criminals to get their hands on paper that doesn't shine under a black light.

i'd bet 90% of fake currency doesnt shine.

jACEDesignsLtd 03-07-2010 07:48 AM

When I used to work at a bank, I caught some pretty good fakes. Like the tips mentioned above already, I would add: let your instinct guide you. When you hold a fake bill, something subconsciously doesn't "feel" right. The fake bill feels very soft and unusual. A real bill feels crisp, textured with a distinct type of paper. Mind you, there are times when a bill looks fake but is actually real (b/c the person left the bill in their jeans and did the laundry). But if you are questioning it in your mind, ditch it. You can refuse to accept the bill even to a cashier. Just say you want another bill to cashier. They may look at you funny, but so what. A lot of times cashiers themselves can't tell that it's a fake. Or perhaps they are trying to dish off the fake to you so you incur the loss.

One other thing at the bank. If you bring a fake bill and the bank catches it, they have to seize it and pull it out of circulation. A lot of customers get choked when I did that, but I think the RCMP orders the bank to do that or sth. If tellers don't catch the fake when taking in the money, but discover it later on... the bank takes the hit. So there are some bank customers that play dumb and DO try to dish it back to the bank and some customers who genuinely didn't know that it was a fake. Either way if its discovered, you lose the bill. I think the most you can do to get back at the counterfeit system is take the fake to the police for investigation. They will write you a receipt, but pretty much that money is lost to you. I left the bank a LONG time ago, so things might have changed. I'm sure there are other rs members that work in a bank that can give you guys more updated info

p.s. the lower denominations are usually the fakes $5, $10, $20s b/c you don't question it. We use them so often. With $50 and $100 bills they are rare, so people tend to scrutinize it before taking it in.

SumAznGuy 03-07-2010 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by MWR34 (Post 6847600)
i'd bet 90% of fake currency doesnt shine.

Let's see some proof. My only rebutal to it is that banks and businesses still use black light to check for fake 50's and 100's.

Quick google search.
http://www.bankofcanada.ca/en/banknotes/index.html

From the horse's mouth. UV light will work.

unit 03-07-2010 10:37 AM

as a general rule dont trust young natives
lol

Zerius 03-07-2010 10:41 AM

You want a UV light that shines under 400nm and under 390nm.
A 360-380nm light would work the best, since it makes the security print in the paper (which says Bank Of Canada 50) a 390nm light will also do this, but it will not be as bright and more of the light is visible to your naked eye and therefore the contrast will not be as great.

These LED's can be found on ebay or other webstores online, and you can easily mod one of the DX lights to take a 5mm UV LED.

twitchyzero 03-07-2010 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by jACE (Post 6847624)
The fake bill feels very soft and unusual. A real bill feels crisp, textured with a distinct type of paper. Mind you, there are times when a bill looks fake but is actually real (b/c the person left the bill in their jeans and did the laundry)

yeah some old bills just feel really soft and wrinkled.

Vansterdam 03-07-2010 12:41 PM

shouldof bought that keychain from the nightmarket.. its like a UV LIGHT + laser + led light ... FTW

CP.AR 03-07-2010 12:49 PM

just run your fingers over the numbers (the 20 or the 5 or 10 or w/e) or the "BANK OF CANADA" words if you are in a hurry. I imagine that to be very hard to replicate in a counterfeit bill.

murd0c 03-07-2010 12:50 PM

a lot of stores have things like this next to the cash register to help the teller/people who work there. It works on all new and older bills of course

http://img443.imageshack.us/img443/4...encycanada.gif

dizzystar 03-07-2010 01:01 PM

you made one crucial mistake:

you trusted a native to do anything but try to fuck you in any way they could. I dont care how racist it sounds, I will never EVER have a native friend, trust a native with a transaction, hire a native (even though I will get great joy in firing them), date a native slut, fuck a native slut, anything.

no matter what they are only in it to get what they can steal from the white man. That fake $100 was printed off of our tax dollars and was used to steal something from the white man (assuming you are white)




Fuck natives.

racerman88 03-07-2010 01:02 PM

always meet up with the buyer near a business where you can ask them to check the bills first before you complete the transaction

murd0c 03-07-2010 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by dizzystar (Post 6847902)
you made one crucial mistake:

you trusted a native to do anything but try to fuck you in any way they could. I dont care how racist it sounds, I will never EVER have a native friend, trust a native with a transaction, hire a native (even though I will get great joy in firing them), date a native slut, fuck a native slut, anything.

no matter what they are only in it to get what they can steal from the white man. That fake $100 was printed off of our tax dollars and was used to steal something from the white man (assuming you are white)




Fuck natives.

even tho I don't agree with what you are saying right now. I can't fucken stand Jordan Tootoo. FUCK I just want Rypien to dummy him right now!!!

hirevtuner 03-07-2010 03:06 PM

bring a blacklight to every deal and also meet at a public place with security cameras
may not prevent it but at least you have something to go by

icemiko 03-07-2010 04:12 PM

Post up his email just incase he's stupid and uses the same email to try to scam someone else.

Meowjin 03-07-2010 05:12 PM

i use a counterfit pen (if the ink turns dark it's fake)

it was funny when some guy tried to buy my macbook in all fake although real looking 100's. The look on his face was priceless though.

twitchyzero 03-07-2010 05:17 PM

^ where do you buy that? how accurate is it

CRS 03-07-2010 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by MajinHurricane (Post 6848258)
i use a counterfit pen (if the ink turns dark it's fake)

it was funny when some guy tried to buy my macbook in all fake although real looking 100's. The look on his face was priceless though.

That is an interesting idea!

More info on this pen.

Manic! 03-07-2010 07:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SumAznGuy (Post 6847653)
Let's see some proof. My only rebutal to it is that banks and businesses still use black light to check for fake 50's and 100's.

Quick google search.
http://www.bankofcanada.ca/en/banknotes/index.html

From the horse's mouth. UV light will work.

I have taken the back of Canada seminar on counterfeit bills and some people are now using suntan lotion on bills to pass the black light test. He had a black lite in our store but have takin it out and check bills manually.

Meowjin 03-07-2010 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by twitchyzero (Post 6848268)
^ where do you buy that? how accurate is it

i saw it used at the casino when i gave them american. When I went to work at the nightclub, it was sitting on the desk and my manager gave it to me. works well. just google counterfit pen.

CP.AR 03-07-2010 07:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dizzystar (Post 6847902)
you made one crucial mistake:

you trusted a native to do anything but try to fuck you in any way they could. I dont care how racist it sounds, I will never EVER have a native friend, trust a native with a transaction, hire a native (even though I will get great joy in firing them), date a native slut, fuck a native slut, anything.

no matter what they are only in it to get what they can steal from the white man. That fake $100 was printed off of our tax dollars and was used to steal something from the white man (assuming you are white)




Fuck natives.

you drunk?
Sure some statistics show that they commit more crimes but...

are they not human beings? do they not deserve respect as well as anyone else?

canadiana 03-07-2010 08:00 PM

I don't know if this was mentioned before. But new bills have dots for the blind (or at least that's what I heard). The dots are spaced differently depending on the value of the bill.


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