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Originally Posted by jACE (Post 6847624)

One other thing at the bank. If you bring a fake bill and the bank catches it, they have to seize it and pull it out of circulation. A lot of customers get choked when I did that, but I think the RCMP orders the bank to do that or sth. If tellers don't catch the fake when taking in the money, but discover it later on... the bank takes the hit. So there are some bank customers that play dumb and DO try to dish it back to the bank and some customers who genuinely didn't know that it was a fake. Either way if its discovered, you lose the bill. I think the most you can do to get back at the counterfeit system is take the fake to the police for investigation. They will write you a receipt, but pretty much that money is lost to you. I left the bank a LONG time ago, so things might have changed. I'm sure there are other rs members that work in a bank that can give you guys more updated info

p.s. the lower denominations are usually the fakes $5, $10, $20s b/c you don't question it. We use them so often. With $50 and $100 bills they are rare, so people tend to scrutinize it before taking it in.

Now their policy is to take any bills that they find questionable out of circulation, and the bank writes you a receipt.

The Bank then sends the money to the RCMP or the Bank of Canada, who will review the bill to see if it is real or not, then return it back to the person if it is real... yeah i know, a pain in the ass. If it isn't real, if I remember correctly, they don't issue it back to you.

Sucks that you got scammed man, as somebody mentioned above, take your time looking at the bills, and request that only $20s be used. Better to wait a few extra weeks than to give something away for free. Counterfeits generally cost too much and is not so much worth the time to make any fake bills with a demoniator lower than $50, but maybe now with a lot of places not accepting $50s and $100s they will start making $20s.

To Check the new bills, run your finger over the paper, normally it feels really crisp. If held up to a light, a face watermark appears, and the number of the bill denominator will match up. (20, 50, 100) Check the number, it is supposed to be sewn in. And on real Bills, the words "Bank of Canada" are legible till the very last letter. Counterfeit ones usually smudge somewhere near the back. If held up to a blacklight, a "BANK OF CANADA" logo will glow in the middle of the bill.

Hope this helps.

here's something I found on the counterfeit pens... not really related to us, but a good 5 minute watch nevertheless

^Everytime I go to the states, I withdraw cash to go, and usually the cash I get from the bank are new. So everytime I buy something with a 50 or 100 they draw a big ass line through the middle of the bill to check for authenticity. Which makes me wonder... does the next store to check it still draw another line? or just trust the line thats already drawn, since its still in circulation LOL.

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Originally Posted by canadiana (Post 6848526)

I don't know if this was mentioned before. But new bills have dots for the blind (or at least that's what I heard). The dots are spaced differently depending on the value of the bill.

It's called braille. Blind people use it to read books.

I remember my friend getting 2 fake $20's from one of those ATM machines you find at clubs or at some smaller gas stations.

Scratching the shoulders never fails me

If you hold it on it's side and look at the shoulder, you should beable to see the ink ontop of the paper, not INTO the paper.

But that is just my way.
I've got many fake bills at work and it all comes down to the scratch test for me.

thanks for the heads up

i never trust any ATM except for the bank ones...

buddy went to an ATM at a cornerstore, spat out like 10-20 fake $20's all in a row.

thing is, the cashier had access to the machine, big setup...

contacted the place's owner, and they fired pretty much the whole staff, because we went again, and it was all new people...

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Originally Posted by SumAznGuy (Post 6847653)

Let's see some proof. My only rebutal to it is that banks and businesses still use black light to check for fake 50's and 100's.

Quick google search.
http://www.bankofcanada.ca/en/banknotes/index.html

From the horse's mouth. UV light will work.

rice paper and cotton paper is readily available in arts and craft stores and also stationary stores. and guess what... they dont shine.
google is your friend

The RCMP along with the U.S. Secret Service have busted a Surrey counterfeiting ring and seized fake U.S. bills totalling $75,000.

Seems like whoever is doing it is still at it:

http://vancouver.en.craigslist.ca/va...647816465.html

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This guy called me to buy a Blackberry and he gave me counterfeit 100s. They were two young brown guys driving a mazda 3. BE AWARE. If anyone catchs these fools, let me know. 6047102373

anytime you deal with someone who says they don't have a cell phone you know it's sketchy.. i learned this when i was sixteen and i bought a phone off this guy...

phone worked but it was a piece of shit.. lesson learned i guess.
but don't all the new notes have the holograms and shit?

Gonna play "Devil's Advocate".
If you had never took the time to take a closer look, and say you were completely oblivious to the fake bill.
And then spent it later (if it fooled you, possible it could fool others. Not every cashier scans bills. Let's say it was a 20, not a 100.).

Then what? No problem? Is this when we say "Ignorance is Bliss" ?

thats not devils advocate thats just stupid.

that girl in the clip is hot

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Originally Posted by MajinHurricane (Post 6879889)

thats not devils advocate thats just stupid.

Explain... How's it stupid besides the fact you got rid of a counterfeit bill (without even knowing you had one.)

How does police deal with this though.
What if a person really was a victim and didn't know and ended up spending the money?
If someone got tricked in the first place by the initial touch/sight of the bill, good chances are he/she might not even notice later on.
Not everyone goes back home and examines their bills after it's in their wallet.

this happened to my friend last week.
he sold black eyed peas tickets, and the guy paid with three 100 bills.
he didnt check, and got fake bills.

not sure if it was the same scammer but still.

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Originally Posted by Captain Picard (Post 6848521)

you drunk?
Sure some statistics show that they commit more crimes but...

are they not human beings? do they not deserve respect as well as anyone else?

I dunno I'm somewhat on his side as well, every Indian I've ever known has either tried to fuck over myself or someone I know, they are basically all losers who will scam even "friends" to get slightly ahead and the most successfull one I was ever aquainted to was pretty much the defintion of the word stereotype, nicknamed cheif, a full blown alcholic

I've got no time for em as well
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Originally Posted by dizzystar (Post 6847902)

you made one crucial mistake:

you trusted a native to do anything but try to fuck you in any way they could. I dont care how racist it sounds, I will never EVER have a native friend, trust a native with a transaction, hire a native (even though I will get great joy in firing them), date a native slut, fuck a native slut, anything.

no matter what they are only in it to get what they can steal from the white man. That fake $100 was printed off of our tax dollars and was used to steal something from the white man (assuming you are white)

Fuck natives.

Ladies and gentlemen, Vancouver Island is in the house. And look, they brought their white hoods and cloaks.

Recently happened to a co-worker, didn't happened through CL, but at department store. She got fooled with a total of $900 fake 100s and 20s. Wonder if they're the same group of people.

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Originally Posted by unit (Post 6880120)

this happened to my friend last week.
he sold black eyed peas tickets, and the guy paid with three 100 bills.
he didnt check, and got fake bills.

not sure if it was the same scammer but still.

Can't he just invalidate those tickets and get it re-issued?

Quick question. Planning on selling a big ticket item, I requested the seller to meet at the bank. Can I just ask the teller to verify if the bills are legit?

And if she says everything is legit and I deposit the money in the bank, is it safe to hand over the item to the person or what would be the best way or step in making sure I don't get fake bills?

If the bank verifies that the bills are legit, then they are legit.

Hand over the item, then deposit the money. It would seem weird to deposit the money first then hand over the item IMO.

And if they're in a bank, I highly doubt they're going to pull anything funny.

EDIT: But yeah, this is a very safe method of transaction.