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Canadians are only nice to their american and english masters. When a person from a non-english country comes to canada, eg: poland, they just kill him. Real nice...this just shows how barbaric the canadian pratice is.
lmao. she got "Bar Watched" by Canadian customs. maybe her relatives should get up and visit her in Taiwan instead of making a 50 yr old fly half way across the world. Well, they kind of have to now cuz she got roasted.
Canadians are only nice to their american and english masters. When a person from a non-english country comes to canada, eg: poland, they just kill him. Real nice...this just shows how barbaric the canadian pratice is.
Seriously?
I'm still trying to decide if this guy is a troll or not. I want to believe it's a troll because even though I know people believe in shit like the 9/11 conspiracies, no one can be as truly ignorant as this...
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Come to think of it, AE98, wasn't that your mom that was denied entry to our country?
Just drop the fuckin ball and stop crying us a damn river. If you don't like the decision, piss off.
We are only observing her POV, which is extremely exaggerated by the media . Until you hear the other side of the story, stop jumping on the bandwagon cause you're the only one on it.
Like 91civic said, those who are not Canadian citizens or Permanent Residents have no rights when seeking entry to Canada. You must prove to the Border officer that you are a genuine visitor. A VISA does not grant you entry into Canada. It is used to help facilitate your travel towards your destined country, but doesn't grant you entry. The officer grants you entry.
Since we don't know the other POV of the story, all we can do is assume what happened. Customs/Immigration officers do not inherently reject a passenger's entry into Canada for no reason. There is always a reason or some sort of justification to do so. Border officers have full authority to grant and deny anyone into the country and must to do so in a professional manner. They have a wide range of enforcement powers based on the Customs Act and Immigration Law. If you don't agree with their attitude, and our immigration laws, by all means, go complain to the Prime Minister.
Until then, sit the fuck down.
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From Vancouver Sun...This incident has turned into a public outrage in the Taiwanese media and alot of Chinese cities. It's time canada do something to change its questionable practices.
Taiwanese authorities are scrambling to contain a public furore that has erupted after one of its citizens was turned from Canada by border agents at Vancouver International Airport.
The story of Chung-hua Lee, a 50-year-old self-described housewife from Taipei, has been grabbing headlines throughout Taiwan in recent days, with sympathetic listeners and readers responding to her experience in Vancouver with their own horror stories of mistreatment at the same airport.
“Everyone is talking about this. I think that it is not very good for relations between Taiwan and Canada,” said Matthew Chou, director general of the Taipei Economic and Cultural Office in Vancouver.
The issue has turned into a diplomatic incident, with Taiwanese government representatives in Vancouver and Ottawa consulting with Canada’s border authorities in an effort to quell growing public concerns.
The story unfolded March 10 shortly after Lee arrived in Vancouver on a flight from Taipei on her first visit to the country.
According to media reports, Lee came for a 15-day visit with distant relatives, and brought with her all the documents she thought she would need to get through customs, including a valid passport, visitor’s visa and return plane ticket.
She passed initial security checks and obtained her luggage, only to be taken aside by border security agents as she walked toward the arrivals lounge.
For the next five and a half hours, she was detained and questioned about why she was in Canada, and whom she was visiting.
Lee, who speaks Mandarin, said a translator was brought in to help with communications, but she said the conversation went only one way, with her own questions to the English-speaking border agents going ignored.
Information she did provide was also lost in the translation, she said, and she was denied the opportunity to phone her Canadian contacts for help.
Instead, she said agents confiscated her mobile phone and contacted people, including her husband in Taiwan, themselves.
The resulting confusion was made worse by cookware she brought with her as gifts for her hosts, and which border agents determined to be inconsistent with a tourist visit.
In the end, they left her with two choices: “voluntarily” leave the country immediately on a return flight, or face several days in immigration lock-up while officials sorted through the process.
She chose the first option, bitterly noting in a radio interview Thursday with CBC, “the term ‘voluntary’ is a joke.
“I was almost threatened,” she said.
More than 30 hours after she left, Lee said she arrived back home in Taiwan frightened, angry and humiliated.
Since then, her story has been widely broadcast in newspapers, radio and television, prompting the Taiwanese government to wade into the fray.
Chou said his government directed him to find out what happened in Lee’s case.
Representatives from his office met with Canada Border Services Agency officials earlier this week. Chou said the CBSA has been cooperative and “willing to provide us with information.”
Taiwanese officials in Ottawa are also talking directly with the Canadian government to resolve the issue quickly.
“From my stance, I really hope we can have something settled as soon as possible,” Chou said. “Taiwan and Canada enjoy a cordial relationship ... and we treasure it.”
Lee, meanwhile, said she received a letter of explanation from CBSA earlier this week stating her entry was refused on the grounds that she was inconsistent with information she provided.
But she maintains she did nothing wrong and is seeking an apology from the Canadian government. She is also seeking financial compensation for the cost of her flight and trauma suffered.
“I’d like an explanation from government as to why this happened,” she said through a translator in the radio interview.
Jason Wang, chair of the Taiwanese Canadian Cultural Society in Vancouver, said the issue may be the result of cultural miscommunication, rather than simply a language problem.
He said the reaction the story is drawing in Asia suggests CBSA needs to look at how its agents interact with visitors.
“There is something that resonates with a lot of the people there ... not just the Taiwanese community,” he said. “Many people are saying they’ve had less-than-pleasant experiences at the airport.”
CBSA could not answer The Vancouver’s Sun questions on the issue Thursday.
you people are idiots...From Vancouver Sun...This incident has turned into a public outrage in the Taiwanese media and alot of Chinese cities. It's time canada do something to change its questionable practices before canada's public image continue to deteriorate. Cut the privillege / right bs..when you get a visitor who comes to ur country legally, you treat her with respect and hospitality.
you people are idiots...From Vancouver Sun...This incident has turned into a public outrage in the Taiwanese media and alot of Chinese cities. It's time canada do something to change its questionable practices before canada's public image continue to deteriorate. Cut the privillege / right bs..when you get a visitor who comes to ur country legally, you treat her with respect and hospitality.
you people are idiots...From Vancouver Sun...This incident has turned into a public outrage in the Taiwanese media and alot of Chinese cities. It's time canada do something to change its questionable practices before canada's public image continue to deteriorate. Cut the privillege / right bs..when you get a visitor who comes to ur country legally, you treat her with respect and hospitality.
Read the friggen article. She brought with her a bunch of pots and pans. If I was working for the CBSA, a foreign visitor with a bunch of pots and pans would lead me to believe they were trying to illegally move into the country.
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and icing on the cake, lady driving a newer chrysler 200 infront of me... jumped out of her car, dropped her pants, did an immediate squat and did probably the longest public relief ever...... steam and all.
Let me restate the point I made earlier, WHO GIVES A SHITTT. if you don't like it here you're free to go back to where you came from, and if you are already there, then u should stay there. If you don't like it here but CHOOSE to stay here, then you should STFU. (you = AE86)
Read the friggen article. She brought with her a bunch of pots and pans. If I was working for the CBSA, a foreign visitor with a bunch of pots and pans would lead me to believe they were trying to illegally move into the country.
Im pretty sure pans and pots are cheaper in Taiwan, she might wanna bring some over for her relatives. I think its a culture thing that Taiwansese people brought stuff that is cheaper from oversea when they visit a country to give or for personal use.
Same goes to the Canadaian Taiwaneses when they are going back to Taiwan, typically they will bring shit load of vitamin. I think its the same theory.
My thought on the repiles in this thread ( not directing this comment to you SumAznGuy because i quoted and replied ). No, no one from Taiwan is gonna apply refugee status in Canada and I dont think the lady made this public becasue she wanted to kept the visitor stop visitng Canada.
She probably just wanna showed she didnt got treated respectfully and demand an apology. (This happens alot in Taiwan and it seems to work, if you make a big scene, you always get what you asked) But then she probably doesnt know Canada operates different than Taiwan, making a big scene wont get you anywhere in Canada and definitely wont help the case.
I think arguing on this topic is pretty stupid, because for fuck sakes its a woman got denied into Canada, who fucking cares... God knows how many others got denied and perhaps they just didnt reported to the media.
They're the border protection agency, not some tourist welcoming committee. They don't have to be nice. The U.S. Customs and Border officers are 10X nastier than in Canada.
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Im pretty sure pans and pots are cheaper in Taiwan, she might wanna bring some over for her relatives. I think its a culture thing that Taiwansese people brought stuff that is cheaper from oversea when they visit a country to give or for personal use.
Same goes to the Canadaian Taiwaneses when they are going back to Taiwan, typically they will bring shit load of vitamin. I think its the same theory.
My thought on the repiles in this thread ( not directing this comment to you SumAznGuy because i quoted and replied ). No, no one from Taiwan is gonna apply refugee status in Canada and I dont think the lady made this public becasue she wanted to kept the visitor stop visitng Canada.
She probably just wanna showed she didnt got treated respectfully and demand an apology. (This happens alot in Taiwan and it seems to work, if you make a big scene, you always get what you asked) But then she probably doesnt know Canada operates different than Taiwan, making a big scene wont get you anywhere in Canada and definitely wont help the case.
I think arguing on this topic is pretty stupid, because for fuck sakes its a woman got denied into Canada, who fucking cares... God knows how many others got denied and perhaps they just didnt reported to the media.
I understand it is a cultural thing to bring gifts when you visit other people. It's been lost, but usually you bring a fruit basket or cookies when you go over to someone's house. But in this case, if I was a CBSA worker, I would think it would be strange for her to come here with a suit case full of pots and pans. IMO, I would think she was trying to move here, maybe become one of those prostitutes you see advertise on CL.
What I don't like is how AE98 keeps bringing up how the CBSA needs to "treat her with respect and hospitality".
This article is a little old, but still relevent, especially to what we are talking about.
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HEY AE98 learn how to read the fucken article. As you can read in the fucken article you reposted, it says that she was not answering the questions being asked and was being a stuck up bitch.
From my experience if you don't answer the border agents questions they tell you to GTFO.
Since your an emotional retard ill give you an example.
If you go the the US border and they ask you Where are you going? What is the purpose of the trip?
And you answer "ITS NONE OF YOUR FUCKEN BUSINESS WHERE IAM GOING."
Most likely your getting a finger in the bum and sent back to Canada
Jesus people are such babies these days. Yeah no doubt it sucks being rejected from a country but it's by no means national news everytime it happens...that bitch is not special, she's not unique in any way, she's just one of many who get turned away everyday so deal with it. If this was the US no one would say shit, but oh it's Canada they have to be nice or it's beloved image of being nothing but rainbows and lollipops will be tarnished. Posted via RS Mobile
why the hate towards CBSA? They are one of the nicest, polite customs in my experience. They clearly followed the procedures when dealing with a suspicious person.
If the OP wants to whine, he should experience the TSA (Especially if he is EI/Middle Eastern).
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