Now we just need to finalize the definition of "anywhere near" the M3. How many seconds are we talking about?

walked into bimmer dealer two weeks ago, saw one marked at 89 something.



a special edition yellow one of sorts ( @ auto west ) was 99k :p

maybe you should give him some points for backing down???

have a poll?

lol uh no

They should put the 5.0L Ford engine into the M3 chassis. Then you'd have a much better car.

- An extra 100 lb/ft of torque is going to make the M3 quicker in a lot of situations.
- The car will weigh less. Sure it's only 20 lbs, but it's 20lbs on the front axle.
- It will handle better than it does now (see above).
- It will get better mileage.
- It will cost less than the current M3.
- It's mod friendly, so you could actually make your car faster without spending $15K.
- All those M3 owners who leased their car and can barely afford to keep it on the road can now burn 87 octane gas to save money. :rofl:

^LOL..

No man, people would lease an 8yr old old M3, and then spend more money on mods than the car's blackbook value!!!

IMHO, for those that have never driven a mustang, you should at least give it a chance and take it on a 'spirited' test drive.. My jaws dropped when I drove a '11 V6 coupe recently.. I can't imagine driving the new GT..

For those that are dashboard strokers.. the interior might not look good in photos, but the quality makes the new Civic/Accord interiors look like a Neon from the 90s.. (yes, i just complimented the mustang's interior).. kthxbye

Most people lease lower end 3ers.. People leasing M3es are a rarity, because despite you can "write off" portion of your lease rate.. it is not 100%, more like 20%-30%.. For that amount of leasing to make sense, you have to be making 120k+ and when you are in that range, you don't need to lease unless you are over extended in the first place.

Not to mention CRA watches for these leases and consider them "hot" for audits. You can easily justify a 7er to carry around clients and guests, but very hard to justify a M3 for the same reason.

E92 m3's torque is hella weak for a V8

E46 m3 260ish torqure for a 6 cylinder

V8 E92 makes 300 pounds of torque for a V8
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go figure

Once upon a time Revscene compared Mustangs to Civics.

Now on Revscene Mustangs are compared to M3's.

I'd say Ford is doing an awesome job.

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ford + reliable lol
IM sure that if you could afford an M3 and pay it off all at once,money spent tuning it with a supercharger or a turbocharger wouldnt be a problem.
slightly? its fucking got itbs. and is the fastest and biggest v8 engine under 100g. an oil system thats not gonna get starved by it's immense cornering speeds.
It doesn;t have a vagina installed in the dashboard, but sure as hell can attract more vaginas to it than you can. Well guess what? the M3 has more prestige, more practicality(can get it as coupe, sedan or convertible) and more speed!

I'm sorry this is a retarded argument, people looking to buy an M3 are not going to cross shop into a ford dealership. Thats like how people going to buy a Rolex aren't going to end up with a Timex. Both do their functions properly, both can look good. But ain't in the same league

then f1 cars are a joke right?

F1 is F1, road car is totally different story

Eat my turd

http://www.webdesignetc.net/Merchant...00006/LS7a.jpg

this is the fastest and biggest V8 under 100g.

Shut the Fuck Up

Oh by the way, it also has Dry Sump oil system.

:rolleyes:

Fastest and biggest V8 under $100g? Hardly.

Perhaps. But the only girls you're going to get who are attracted to you because of the car you drive are either 1) Gold diggers, or, 2) People that care more about "Face" and what others think about you. Neither of those types of people are even worth giving the time of the day.

BMW = Perceived prestige. More speed? In what way? Final speed, 0-60? 0-120?

I don't get why this is even a discussion between M3 and Mustang. They are in completely different market sector.

If everything is about 0-60, quarter miles, then for the price GTR is godlike and anything else can be junk.

People who buy BMW don't care if a Mustang can be as fast as they do. Just as a Ferrari owner doesn't care a GTR is capable of pwning his shinny 300G Italian fine art for 1/3 of the price.

BMW M is a prestigious and well respected division in the world of automobiles. When you read car magazines you see all others (Caddy, Audi, Benz... etc) being compared to BMW Mx. There is no doubt that a M3 engine is much finer tuned than a Mustang. It's all about attention to detail. Mustang might be fast. But it would never have the level of sophistication of a M3.

This is a very same reason why people spend hundred of thousands on a Tourbillon watch when a 5bucks toy watch does exactly the same thing with perhaps better accuracy.

Actually fastest meaning RPMS wise. Piston speed of that M3 is greater than that of the Corvette's. That is what engineering is. And its a dual system not a single.

What other road car has a v8 that revs to 8.4k making 400+hp and is over 100hp/L and is still pretty reliable???

Pretty much what i'm trying to say. Its not like people going to buy a rolex is going to cross shop a timex. In this case, people aren't gonna cross shop a piece of proven art vs a rickety pos with a crappy interior and horrid panel gaps that rebuilt cars don't even have.

If all you care is about 100hp/L and high revs then you should get a S2000 or a motorcycle.

You were making a somewhat valid argument, until you completely discredited yourself with that statement right there.

actually, he does have an S2000... lol

he already has a s2k

thats a fine lookin engine. at least it looks like one.

No wonder he brings up hp/L arguements on all cars. I bet he uses the same excuses when the 350Z guys go faster than him.

"My car makes more hp/L than your car" "It also revs to over 9000 RPM"

Iono about that one. I traded cars with an '08 Mustang GT owner a while back and imo the interior is at least on par with the s2k (what interior?), except that the seats are total freaking garbage and they're the first thing I'd throw in the trash the second no one was looking. Seriously the seats are a crime against god.

The 2011 mustang has a much nicer interior compared to the '08.