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^the point of this thread was to highlight the improvement of not just previous generations, but even the difference with 2010 and 2011 mustang GTs. :rolleyes: |
The ford mustang has been around for how many years?. Any car can be improved if given enough time. It shouldn't have taken this long for ford to make a car rival a more expensive car in terms of performance. even Chevy I have more respect for because they've made the corvette which has always been a sweet car especially the Z06 which shits on cars twice its price. |
^ true about the Corvette....but I bet you the Mustang has made Ford way more money than the Corvette has for Chevy.....Ford has always been focused on making the Mustang affordable.....there is a reason the Mustang has always kicked the Camaro/trans am in unit sales....... |
The M3 is hands down the best handling sports sedan out there. Any magazine that has tested it has said so. Any professional driver who has spent time behind the wheel has said so. And, of course, every M3 owner who bought one also says so. But do the owners say so because they know the subtle differences between an M3 and similar sports sedans and have the skill & knowledge to define the capabilities of each one? No. They bought the M3 because the magazines said it was the best. And all the knowledge they share about the M3 to their buddies also comes from these magazines, and not from personal experience. Bottom line: 98% of M3 owners know shit about driving. Same thing with the 911. Very good car, but mostly bought by people with money and zero driving knowledge. So it's really funny hearing people talk about these cars like they have so much personal racing experience that qualifies them to actually make a statement like "the M3 feels much more stable in the corners, and I was able to consistently achieve higher exit speeds blah blah blah". |
Saw the 5.0 today... Track Pack equipped. Definitely hot, and much more attention-grabbing than the M3 just because of how common BMWs are. I wanna go see Rich and test drive now, haha. |
^I think Rich should offer a RS test drive event of the 5.0 and and 3.7 with the Track pack/Pony pack! |
If I had the inventory, I would!!! But we only have one 5.0L and it's already getting too many miles on it from test drives!!! |
^ RS SPECIAL DISCOUNT????? :troll: |
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http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4133/...9b3311f4_b.jpg the unsprung weight of the wheels, tires and suspension is pretty high --- the car I drove had 19"s i think -- it would be even heavier with bigger optional rims/tires. This is what makes the Stang feel HEAVY and ponderous in my opinion. The suspension just fees like a typical heavy American car -- more like an SUV than a sports car. i had the Stang for three full days -- did several smoky burnouts in parking lots, tested the steering at highway speed and on on/offramps. I've also driven an older Shelby Type H in Vegas for a weekend. That was a fun straight line car -- but still scary at the edge of traction limits. |
i don't see brembos on it... i think those might be 18's? i really don't know enough unfortunately. was that a base model? |
it was a gt with the 5.0 -- standard trim no GT500 brakes |
i'm at work so i don't have the documentation rich gave me... but without the brembos i think you get the smaller wheels, all season tires, and standard suspension. i have to go back and read, but when you order the brembos there is some sort of reprogramming to the computer that handles the traction control system in the car (i don't know the name ford calls it... TCS?) are you comparing your itr to the mustang? if so then yes i'm in agreement that the mustang feels like a brick. but having owned an itr in the past and now that i'm much older (and more mature but many question that :p ) i still like the mustang more :thumbsup: ugh i need a better paying job to pay for the toys :cry: |
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we still gonna compare mustangs to civics? |
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^ i feel sorry for civic owners then |
wow the new mustang is a hell of a car |
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But holy shit, hell is freezing over... The M3 is obviously the more desirable car, but at almost 80 grand to put up performance figures a car half it's value can touch? Is it worth it? I would feel like a total chump if I dropped $30,000 extra, which is basically another car, and had to redline every gear to shit and still couldn't shake a fat, ugly ass mustang off my tail... even having to worry about it completely walking me if I miss a shift...and the fact it's fat and ugly makes it 10 times worse. M3 costs $30,000 extra for what now? A nicer dashboard and door panels? :gay: :p |
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