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Old 04-21-2010, 01:39 PM   #26
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Old 04-21-2010, 02:02 PM   #27
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There is nothing wrong with the miata and you have bigger issues in life if you are so insecure that people will question your manlihood.

There is someone out there that thinks your rice rocket with spoon, fork, moogen parts and 3" TIR exhaust is just as retarded.

But I have to agree, the Miata would be last pick with the S being my first. I've driven the S enough and you just can't describe how it drives. Sure, it lacks torque and as you already mentioned, not exactly quiet but the overall experience is very engaging. And I am too poor for BMW maintenance.

BTW, my opinion is slightly biased as I am also looking for an S in the states. But in spa yellow and some bronze volks ce28 and I'll call it a day.

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Z4M. It has the M badging for a reason.
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Portland has a yellow ap2 with 60k miles for under $18k. The owner claims he was the first owner, and the car has never been in an accident. I can send you his contact if you're interested! The car should still be posted on portland.craigslist.org


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There is nothing wrong with the miata and you have bigger issues in life if you are so insecure that people will question your manlihood.

There is someone out there that thinks your rice rocket with spoon, fork, moogen parts and 3" TIR exhaust is just as retarded.

But I have to agree, the Miata would be last pick with the S being my first. I've driven the S enough and you just can't describe how it drives. Sure, it lacks torque and as you already mentioned, not exactly quiet but the overall experience is very engaging. And I am too poor for BMW maintenance.

BTW, my opinion is slightly biased as I am also looking for an S in the states. But in spa yellow and some bronze volks ce28 and I'll call it a day.

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how the hell do you pay $70-80 bux for windshield blade?

lol even Piaas dont cost tat much

PIAA sucks! Bosch ICONS are by the far the best blades i've used..
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^ Valeo Ultimates are pretty good too. I'm pretty sure it comes out from the same factory.
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PIAA sucks! Bosch ICONS are by the far the best blades i've used..
agreed, ICON is the shit.

btw, how do u plan on checking the car for damages? Do u know a good mechanic or u just look @ the carproof/carfax reports?
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since this is going to be your fun WEEKEND car, I would pick the Z4M. Maintenance costs wont be crazy because it is not your daily driver.
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I'm having a hard time locating a Z4M for a test drive. I have driven a 2003 Z4 2.5i Sport and a E46 M3 vert. before. I'm sure it's a mix between the two.
z4m has a newer cpu and sounds better than e46 m3. It is very close to a regular e46 m3. So no way you can compare it with a m3 vert. Also it is very different from a regular z4 from what I have read. It is very basic and raw(in bmw lineup anyways).

watch this, you can't go wrong with a z4m:
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For the guy that says it'll be my weekend driver, my weekend consists of a roundtrip from Kelowna to Vancouver (easily 1200kms a weekend!)

Thanks for the vid SS.. That's sick..
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S2K gets my vote.

Z4 looks funny imo, and Miatas as mentioned above have no horsepower. But they're fun to drive, so if you're not looking for torque I guess that'd be a decent choice.

But I'm still leaning on the S2K
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Don't get the S2k, it's a fun car but its weak point is long highway cruising. Lots of wind/engine noise, lousy stereo, and you'll be cruising at high revs which means poor hwy mileage.

BMW for sure.
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Don't get the S2k, it's a fun car but its weak point is long highway cruising. Lots of wind/engine noise, lousy stereo, and you'll be cruising at high revs which means poor hwy mileage.

BMW for sure.
I don't see the point with poor hwy mileage. I cruise at around 4k RPM at 120km/h. How much more do you want to be speeding on highway? Z4M's maintenance in the long run will far surpass s2k's and you think that can be offset by some better highway mileage or something? Stereo can easily be upgraded. If you don't like noises, get a hardtop and in the end it'll still be way cheaper than owning a Z4M.
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PIAA sucks! Bosch ICONS are by the far the best blades i've used..
so far im pretty damn pleased with my piaa silicon

tried bosch and it was pretty shitty, but that time they never had the icons. Maybe i will give that a try after my piaas are done
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I don't see the point with poor hwy mileage. I cruise at around 4k RPM at 120km/h. How much more do you want to be speeding on highway? Z4M's maintenance in the long run will far surpass s2k's and you think that can be offset by some better highway mileage or something? Stereo can easily be upgraded. If you don't like noises, get a hardtop and in the end it'll still be way cheaper than owning a Z4M.
whoa slow down there chief. all I said was that the s2k isn't a great car for highway cruising and I listed a few reasons why. If his # 1 priority is highway trips (which it appears to be, based on his posts), the BMW is a better choice. But if you think his # 1 priority is maintenance costs, then the s2k is a better choice. everything has a trade off.
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K this is from an S2000 owner,
i would get the Z4M, i raced one and got demolished. Straight line fun, is what the Z4M owns all of the above in. Corners? i'd take the S by far easily.
Interior, well thats a stupid question
Heres the way i see it,
RAW FUN : s2k
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Prob be better if you get opinions from someone who actually DROVE the car.

http://www.s2ki.com/forums/index.php...ic=680195&st=0

The guy went from S2000 --> Boxster S --> Z4M --> Boxster S

Though the thread compares Boxster S and Z4M, you get pretty good info about the ride of Z4M.
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Z4M obviously if you can afford the maintenance. Shouldn't really be comparing that car to the other two.

But then the s2k is just so much fun. Best part of it is the engine and the transmission. Rev happy and really really slick shifting. Cheap maintenance and solid reliability too.
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K this is from an S2000 owner,
i would get the Z4M, i raced one and got demolished. Straight line fun, is what the Z4M owns all of the above in. Corners? i'd take the S by far easily.
Interior, well thats a stupid question
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RAW FUN : s2k
FUN: Z4M
The z4m is a fun car in corners too. Different kind of corning than s2k.


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Prob be better if you get opinions from someone who actually DROVE the car.

http://www.s2ki.com/forums/index.php...ic=680195&st=0

The guy went from S2000 --> Boxster S --> Z4M --> Boxster S

Though the thread compares Boxster S and Z4M, you get pretty good info about the ride of Z4M.
read the last page. you will see he really had no idea how to drive the z4m. After adjusting his driving style...seems like he is keeping it.

Most people can't just jump into a z4m and expect fast lap times and extract its full potential. It takes time.


Watch the top gear video with z4m vs boxster s.
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Thanks guys!

I like the 986/987S cars too. The 987 is outside of my budget (38k+ usd) and I've read about all the RMS issues on the 986.
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If it's mostly highway (Kelowna-Vancouver), definitely go for the Z4M.
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I would pick s2k, but thats because i was planning on getting one last year

I wouldnt buy a BMW because of parts/maintenance cost, and Miata because it doesnt have as much power
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how about a 350z roadster? its got more leg room than the s2k...
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