Do you have a Digital Voice Recorder? I wanna be a Perfect Water Entrepreneur.

[J____]

lol any business venture that requires you to attend a seminar has no potential because all the potential is already absorbed by the person giving the seminar. You guys attending are just there to feed his own benefit while making you think you are getting something out of it.

[impactX]

So where's OP now?

[hchang]

Originally Posted by TOS'd

Yep, bump. I know the people have gotten back already from this trip. Now we just wait for hchang to chim in. And he can't give any BS couple days later saying he just got back.

I see you know a few people from this business as well?

Yeah I got back at around 5 in the morning last night.

Anywho... here's my two cents.
Fail away if you must.

The business does seem legit. For sure it isn't one of those companies grabbing your registration fee then running away. If you have the work to put in, there will be money given back.

I went to the event a bit unsure, but any questions I basically have asked somebody to clarify...and imo it all adds up.

LOTS of people who are just first years in this business are already making around $4000-6000 a month, easily. Which really made me think, if they could do it, why can't I?

It's a Pyramid Scheme you say?

So is our government.

The Company makes money off other people.

What company that you know doesn't?

The only negative comment would be that they mentioned that a only 2% of people will be making the millions, but as mentioned above, as long as people are willing to put in the work, there will be residual income coming in.

The concept is that theres a whole line of products that you can buy, and it saves people money. I looked at the prices... although it doesn't seem like it makes you money, I don't see the downside of the fact that whatever you buy from your own website if you are in the business, you will get a certain amount of money back.

Say you buy something from Superstore, all you get back is the product that you bought. Now let's say you bought something from your own store, you get back the product, and also the amount difference in the middle.

Even if this is a "scam", I'm sure the majority of human beings out there would do it if it meant them getting rich.

There's my rant, sorry to disappoint you guys but I'm not against Amway nor for. I have not made my decision whether or not to join.

Anybody feel like expanding on any of the topics? Or add on? Or argue anything?

[impactX]

Originally Posted by hchang

Say you buy something from Superstore, all you get back is the product that you bought. Now let's say you bought something from your own store, you get back the product, and also the amount difference in the middle.

You are just using your money to buy bottled tap water at a premium (regardless of the little discount (or commission) you get), which costs them almost nothing to produce and little to market. Sounds like a brilliant idea to me.

[hchang]

Originally Posted by impactX

You are just using your money to buy bottled tap water at a premium (regardless of the little discount (or commission) you get), which costs them almost nothing to produce and little to market. Sounds like a brilliant idea to me.

Except that you not only sell water.

And thanks to whichever mod changed my thread title.

[impactX]

So what else will you be selling? Knives?

It's not a business when you have to sell stuff to yourself.

[hchang]

Originally Posted by impactX

So what else will you be selling? Knives?

It's not a business when you have to sell stuff to yourself.

You don't "Have to" sell stuff to yourself. But think of it this way.
Say you owned a Chevron. Would you still fill up at a Petro Canada, Husky, Shell or wherever you fill up?
It's completely logical.

Nope there's 450+ exclusive products including edibles, car supplies, plus affiiliate partners like Barnes and Noble, Best Buy and etc. No knives.

[Ch28]

Originally Posted by hchang

allthatshitbyyou.txt

i'd fail you but your av puts a smile on my face so i won't.

[Manic!]

Perfect water is a part of Amway. Also Smart water from Coke is better because it makes you smarter.

http://www.amquix.info/perfectwater_debunked.html

[Culture_Vulture]

don't join

[jing]

lulz chances are hchang is just reciting back all the BS he was fed

[TOS'd]

Anyone curious what company he is talking about? It's called Amway. Google it and you will find tons of evidence as to why it is not a good idea to join. BUT you will also find MANY MANY sites used as for propaganda which are all fake and have biased views on Amway.

Here is an example of the MILLIONS of sites, EACH person in this business "own". Here you can find over priced goods for all your needs.

http://like.mychoices.biz/pws/home.aspx

Every month you pay some money, i think it was around $100 or so ish cant remember, but that money goes to run the site through a company (not Amway but i forgot the company name). You basically try to get customers to view your website and purchase products from it. You earn a percentage of sales from your website, so the more customers you have, the more money you will make. The only hard part to this is attracting those customers, like I already said there are SO many of these websites all trying to do the same thing all selling relatively the same products. On top of all that, they EXPECT you to attend a weekly meeting and also the large meetings in the states. They also ADVISE you to read all their self help bs books and CDs, which cost an arm and a leg, and you should be reading a new one every week or so.

Anyways.

[hchang]

Originally Posted by jing

lulz chances are hchang is just reciting back all the BS he was fed

Yeah... I think I am too.

But however, out of all honesty, it seems reasonable, right?

[Ronin]

You've been brainwashed. They always seem reasonable...like "Oh, I can totally do that...seems easy."

[hchang]

Originally Posted by TOS'd

Anyone curious what company he is talking about? It's called Amway. Google it and you will find tons of evidence as to why it is not a good idea to join. BUT you will also find MANY MANY sites used as for propaganda which are all fake and have biased views on Amway.

Here is an example of the MILLIONS of sites, EACH person in this business "own". Here you can find over priced goods for all your needs.

http://like.mychoices.biz/pws/home.aspx

Every month you pay some money, i think it was around $100 or so ish cant remember, but that money goes to run the site through a company (not Amway but i forgot the company name). You basically try to get customers to view your website and purchase products from it. You earn a percentage of sales from your website, so the more customers you have, the more money you will make. The only hard part to this is attracting those customers, like I already said there are SO many of these websites all trying to do the same thing all selling relatively the same products. On top of all that, they EXPECT you to attend a weekly meeting and also the large meetings in the states. They also ADVISE you to read all their self help bs books and CDs, which cost an arm and a leg, and you should be reading a new one every week or so.

Anyways.

WWDB is the company you're referring to.

And it adds up to about $80 per month after tax.

CDS and Books costs roughly $3 to 6 a week.

Meetings are "optional", but yes as you mentioned they "advise" you to attend.

[sleazyho]

Get the fuck out of this shit!
Its nothing but a huge scam, you'll only end up wasting your money and getting none of it back. All the 'meetings' are basically the same but they will charge you $10 every time anyways. They say they make $100,000+ after a couple years from this 'business' but most of those are coming from their 'talks' aka meetings, they barely make shit from actual product sales. Those talks are basically to brainwash you to make you think you can make $$ quick by joining up with them. Its like an evil cult with sleazy motherfucking salesmen. You basically have to devote 24 hours a day into this 'business' and youre not even guaranteed profits after all the work and effort you put in. Dont get too deep into this shit man, get out now while you can, seriously.

[JSALES]

My friend is getting into a similar business like this, it's called Acai Berry, I don't know if any of you guys have heard about it before but it's almost the same thing I guess as trying to sell Perfect Water or whatever product it is. He told me about it and it seems like the exact same shit everyone else said, same stories about making 6 figures and devoting only a few hours a week and whatnot. I call bullshit.

[JKam]

The only people you'll be selling to is your friends and family. You'll also be fucking up all your friendships by trying to get them to join you.

Your friends and family will hate you for trying to sell them stupid shit at stupid prices. You'll also be paying stupid prices for stupid shit because you have to. You buy the bottled water for $2/bottle and you make $.50 from it. Really the water costs you $1.50. Why not just buy it from Costco for $.50/bottle? This applies to all the stupid shit they sell.


btw the only way you REALLY make money is by recruiting people, not selling the shit.

[Noizz]

Originally Posted by hchang

I think it's worth checking out. My buddy's been in it for about 6 months now, and I've noticed a great increase of him becoming a lot more mature, and does seem to be doing better financially.

Unless you have access to his financial statements, he could be living out of his ass. From my experience, think twice before you make a decision, even if he is your close friend. Don't judge a book by its cover.

Why do you think he is acting more mature? Think about it. Think about who he is associating himself with now. Why is he asking you? Because you're a friend, and using that friend card he has a higher chance of getting you to agree than a random person on the street. Hence making him his referral bonus.

I got tricked into one of these multi-level marketing schemes before. Yeah! Lets go into an empty apartment, sit on chairs in a circle with a bunch of strangers who have all been successful with this awesome way to make money. What did you make this month Bob? Oh wow! How about you Jane? See how easy it is? Really, all you need is to get a baseline going, your family members/friends are a great place to start! Check out this pay stub I have! Its a shitty photocopy but it's the real thing for sure! What was your credit card number again? 5741 57SU CKMY FUCK INGB ALLS.

[JSALES]

I actually have a friend who was so commited to this, he fucking balled his eyes out because everyone thinks he's crazy for doing this since we all think it's not worth it. His goal is to retire by 22 i think and he wants to prove to everyone who doubted him haha

[truth]

GO FOR IT! you're just looking for someone to reassure you right? well look no further!

[threezero]

Originally Posted by JSALES

My friend is getting into a similar business like this, it's called Acai Berry, I don't know if any of you guys have heard about it before but it's almost the same thing I guess as trying to sell Perfect Water or whatever product it is. He told me about it and it seems like the exact same shit everyone else said, same stories about making 6 figures and devoting only a few hours a week and whatnot. I call bullshit.

my frd was into this a while back to. he was a horrible salemen and after 20 sec i could tell this is another pyramid scam.

just wondering do acai berry/mona vie gives out free sample to their "victims" my buddy that was into it gave me a free sample to try and that shit is nasty, i feel bad for him if he had to pay for all that

[JSALES]

Originally Posted by threezero

my frd was into this a while back to. he was a horrible salemen and after 20 sec i could tell this is another pyramid scam.

just wondering do acai berry/mona vie gives out free sample to their "victims" my buddy that was into it gave me a free sample to try and that shit is nasty, i feel bad for him if he had to pay for all that

yeah i think they do give free samples. My friend ended up buying the case of Acai Berry which is a case of 6 and the size of wine bottles for i think $200 - $300 haha. He takes a "shot" of it every night before he sleeps because supposedly it's good for you and it taste good

[TOS'd]

Lol yea Acai Berry is another one of these scams.

hchang, obviously this is going to sound good/reasonable. If it wasn't the who the hell would fall for such a thing. So naive...

[skyxx]

Guys, let him be. He can do whatever he wants. We told him already, so end of story. Thread closed.