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					Originally Posted by tiger_handheld
					(Post 6920784)
				  "Here's an example: Let's say you want to buy a pair of season tickets to  the B.C. Lions this year. If you buy that pair of premium seats today,  it would cost you $1,302. If you buy that same pair of season tickets  May 1, the price jumps to $1,388. In other words, Lions fans, you better  start scrambling like Jarious Jackson and pay for those season ducats  right now, if you want to save yourself $86."     
How about BC Lions discount the tix by $86 after May 1, cuz they will be receiving their "discount" back by HST credit. Cuz in theory that is what the HST is suppose to do - business claims input taxes, and passes the savings to consumer.     |  
 
  So, there is a major problem with this, and it really annoys me. Not with the poster, but the government pushing this through without proper introduction.  
You are never going to see the $86 dollars that we are promised in theory.  
I can only really talk from the perspective of my own business. I own a small renovation company.  
I pay PST on items and don't charge it. Therefore, I eat PST. In theory, the HST is made for me. I now charge 12%, and collect refunds for 12% on inputs. The problem with your $86 is the the spread between inputs and outputs. It's called profit. I can be a good business owner and say I'm going to pay it forward. I deduct the PST that I paid on your project an change my final bill accordingly.  
Keeping the math really simple:  
I pay $1000 in materials for a $2000 job. Wow, in my example, I make shit money, but whatever.  
Current System
	1000	2000
PST	70	
GST	50	100
Total	1120	2100 
New System
	1000	2000
HST	120	240
Total	1120	2240 
With HST system, I "make" an extra $70. You pay an extra 120.  
I can only "save" you the $70. Meaning you will pay an extra $50.  
Here is the big point...am I going to change my prices to the point where I don't lose money, and pass on the PST. No. And no one is. No one will connect that.  
They should have made it 10%, and sold it as a lower tax overall. They would have been hailed as revolutionary in their tax reform.  
That is the part that frustrates me. Don't tell me that the extra $50 you pay for me to put in a new floor is going to save the economy. People are calling it for what it is, a big ole tax grab because the deficit was supposed to be $500 million, and came back from the accountants at 1.2 billion.