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Does anyone help anyone anymore?

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No help for man, 79, mugged by on Toronto subway train; two men sought

An elderly man who cried out for help as he was being mugged on a Toronto subway train received no assistance from other commuters.

The 79-year-old victim, Yusuf Hizel, told City-TV that two thugs asked for change and when he told them he didn't have any they grabbed him and took his wallet out of his pocket and smashed his glasses.

He tried to activate the passenger-assistance alarm _ a yellow strip above the seats _ but could not reach it.

He said Monday night that the train was half full and despite screaming for help, no one came.

The attackers fled when the train pulled into an east-end station and his wallet, with the money gone, was later found on the street.

"It is disappointing," said Brad Ross, a spokesman for the Toronto Transit Commission.

"People may feel intimidated about getting involved."

The suspects are believed to be in their 20s.

News of the Toronto incident came amid reports that a homeless man who was stabbed when he rushed to assist a woman being attacked on a New York City street died on the sidewalk as pedestrians strolled by.

A surveillance video obtained by The New York Post shows Hugo Alfredo Tale-Yaxe lying face down for more than an hour. Several people turned their heads, and a few gawked before moving on.

Police were investigating.

Ross said other people on the Toronto subway car may have been concerned that pressing the alarm would have drawn attention to themselves but stressed the alarm on subway cars is silent.

Pressing the strip alerts only the guard and driver, who then notify transit control and security officials before the train pulls into a station, he said.

"We do encourage customers, if they see another customer or passenger in distress _ whether it's a medical incident or a criminal occurrence _ to press the yellow strip," Ross said.

Transit officials said snatch-and-grabs of iPods or cellphones and similar items are fairly common.

However, a robbery of an elderly passenger is "rare," Ross said.

Police were using security-cameras located throughout the system to try to identify the two thugs.

They are asking anyone who may have information on the incident to contact them.

This is the 3rd story i read today about people just by-passing or pretending not to see to help someone out. Another one was in NY where, a homeless man saved a woman from an attacked got stabbed and no one helped him until 2 hours later where he was found dead.

these days ppls mentality is every man for themself, sad but true tho..

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Originally Posted by Mugen EvOlutioN (Post 6927531)

these days ppls mentality is every man for themself, sad but true tho..

I agree, it sucks.

the trouble you could have got into for helping.....

it's a different story if it's a hot chick that got robbed.

it's dangerous to help the old guy..a knife stab or a gun shot would be the end for any passenger. The old guy is 79 years old. The rewards seem small. There might be a small chance that this old guy is super nice with loads of money.

Obviously the risk was too high for any payouts.

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People Walk By Hero Bleeding To Death
The man was stabbed in the chest after stopping a woman from a knife-wielding attacker.

Homeless man Hugo Alfredo Tale-Yax, 31, a Guatemalan immigrant, collapsed on a New York street after being stabbed by a knife-wielding attacker. Tale-Yax had reportedly protected a woman from an attack, and was stabbed several time in the chest. Dozens walked by the dying man on the sidewalk. One even stopped to snap a picture of the man on his camera phone.

Sauce: http://www.latimes.com/news/nationwo...4252.htmlstory

It's just not worth it to be a good Samaritan

So bad... but think about it. You get stabbed or cut or whatever, now you have a cool scar. And a badass scar with a cool story behind it is better panty remover than lemon gin.

Except if you get stabbed in the balls. Then it's not that great.

^
ohh shit kick ass haha

Wtf so he saved her life resulting in a knif wound, and she leaves him there to bleed to death?? Fucking chaotic out there.
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dude, if your fellow passenger wouldn't even press the damn yellow strip on the car...

WTF!

To all the angels on here: how many homeless people have you walked by and not even noticed? or avoided purposely?

Crowds tend to have a deer-caught-in-headlights reaction until someone steps up. If one passenger had confronted the thugs it may have inspired others, and then a group of angry passengers vs 2 thugs becomes better odds.

we asians don't like minding other people's businesses
we keep to ourselves and stay outta trouble

Homeless or not when you see a person on the floor bleeding you should not be snapping pictures with your phone, instead pull it out and call 911 you don't even have to stay but at least your helpIng. And not all Asians are like that I know plenty that would help others regardless. It's the way your brought up.
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Nowadays it's very rare to find good samaritans..

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Originally Posted by notching (Post 6927901)

we asians don't like minding other people's businesses
we keep to ourselves and stay outta trouble

But they really love to stare for some odd reason
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this is very common on other cities or countries

wow... another reason to not take transit! But it could happen anywhere honestly~

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Originally Posted by q0192837465 (Post 6927644)

cost/benefit

Cost: calling 911 & stay at the scene, getting questioned by police = losing half day of pay, the mugger might target u instead, the old guy could sue u

Benefit: a thank you if u'r lucky

You do the math.

To add insults to injuries

Sauce: http://www.latimes.com/news/nationwo...4252.htmlstory

It's just not worth it to be a good Samaritan

this is the second time i've seen u misspell it. it's Source

What would happen if you got into a street fight or bar fight back in the day? The worst that would probably happen is that you'd get your ass kicked.

What could happen if you got into a street fight or bar fight today? You might get shot/stabbed. Times have changed. It's not what it used to be.

My uncle used to be a meat head back in the day. He told me the craziest stories ever. He said he and his friends would look for trouble on purpose... and he said the worst thing that ever happened was he got a black eye and some bruised ribs...
He then told me that he wouldn't dare try to do things he did now. Even he recognizes that guns and weapons are more prevalent these days. He's about 6'3'' 220lbs, he told me that he wouldn't mess around anymore. He said it's not worth it. He has a wife and three kids, why would he risk it?

So how can you expect people, complete strangers to risk their lives for you? If someone wants to rob you, just let them rob you? Who cares? You may lose your wallet, you may lose your phone, you may lose your necklace. So in total you could lose up to $500??? or if you fought back, you could lose your life.

Now tell me, what's worth it? Some material objects or your life?

Pussy or no pussy, it's not worth the risk.

"News of the Toronto incident came amid reports that a homeless man who was stabbed when he rushed to assist a woman being attacked on a New York City street died on the sidewalk as pedestrians strolled by."
^ strait from the article. my point exactly.

wtf i just said the same thing others have said and i get failed for it. you guys need to fail yourselves for discrimination against me

no one gives a shit anymore these days, all they do is watch or film shit on their cellphone and put it on youtube for laughter