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Old 05-12-2010, 04:31 AM   #1
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Six in 10 B.C. RCMP staff have thought about quitting

Seems to me the entire RCMP force needs a revamp...

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Nearly 60 per cent of RCMP employees in B.C. have considered quitting their job over the past six months, according to an internal staff survey obtained by The Vancouver Sun.

The survey also found one in four B.C. RCMP employees had been "verbally harassed or tormented" within the past year, with the most common source of harassment being their direct supervisor.

In 2009, the RCMP conducted a national survey — of both sworn officers and civilian staff — to gauge morale, a process it undertakes every two years.

A summary of the survey's B.C. results, prepared for deputy commissioner Gary Bass, was obtained by The Sun through the Access to Information Act.

The report indicates 57 per cent of B.C. staff surveyed said they've thought about quitting in the previous six months, about the same as RCMP staff nationally. The figure was the same for both sworn officers and civilian staff.

Among the B.C. employees who considered quitting, the most common reason given was frustration with the work environment, a lack of recognition for their work and unrealistic work expectations.

RCMP spokesman Sgt. Tim Shields said the figure isn't cause for concern.

"It's only human nature — people are going to think about other options," he said, adding actual turnover is low.

The survey also found that while 61 per cent said they'd recommend a career with the Mounties to others, 24 per cent would have doubts about making such a recommendation and seven per cent said they'd advise against it.

Perhaps most troubling for the force, the survey suggests morale is getting worse.

Those surveyed were asked whether they agreed or disagreed with 55 separate statements about working at the RCMP, from whether they were proud to work for the force to whether they'd been properly trained.

The survey found responses to 39 of those statements — 70 per cent — had worsened in just the past two years.

The biggest drop — down 14 points, to 53 per cent — was whether staff believed they received the intelligence they needed to do their job. There were also big drops in whether staff felt respected and trusted (down 12 points to 44 per cent) and if they believed they were treated fairly (down 11 points to 41 per cent).

Harassment is also a major problem within the RCMP in B.C., with one-quarter of those surveyed saying they'd been harassed or tormented within the past year. A fifth of those said the source of their harassment was "clients" such as members of the public or criminals. But six in 10 said the chief source of their torment was their direct supervisors, other superiors or co-workers.

Shields acknowledged staff morale has taken a hit recently, partly due to fallout from the 2007 death of Polish immigrant Robert Dziekanski after being Tasered by RCMP members.

"To see the organization that we have all dedicated our lives to under a level of public scrutiny and criticism which has been unprecedented has taken its toll," he said.

Shields said the RCMP is working hard to improve, including establishing a "continuous improvement team" within the force dedicated to respond to staff concerns.

"There's definitely a recognition from the most senior levels that there are changes that are needed," he said.

The RCMP also implemented a "Respectful Workplace" training program last year, which it says is far more extensive than its previous anti-harassment program and must be completed by all employees and managers.

Some of the survey's other findings include:

•- The force's senior brass are much happier than the rank-and-file. Those with a rank of chief superintendent or higher gave positive answers to 85 per cent of the questions, compared with just 55 per cent for corporals and constables.
•- Only a third of those surveyed thought employee complaints were dealt with effectively.
•- Only a third of those surveyed thought situations of poor performance were dealt with effectively.
Interestingly, the worst score of all 55 questions — with just 17 per cent agreement — was whether staff felt the survey they'd just completed would make any difference.

About 2,500 RCMP employees in B.C. completed the survey, which was conducted last summer.

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Old 05-12-2010, 04:34 AM   #2
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Would explain the tazer/beatings.. pissed off police gota take there anger out on someone :O
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^ and who's gonna take his/her jobs seriously when they were thinking about quitting anyway ...
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Old 05-12-2010, 07:59 AM   #4
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Would explain the tazer/beatings.. pissed off police gota take there anger out on someone :O
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Even tho most people think about quitting there job something should be done. The real question is what they could do???
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Old 05-12-2010, 08:30 AM   #6
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shit, and i was thinking of becoming a cop too. Guess this changes everything.
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Old 05-12-2010, 10:13 AM   #7
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Pretty dumb survey - I suppose it's necessary to generate some sympathy from the public after all the recent embarrassing news about RCMP?

There's a lot of good people in the force, unfortunately as it is with all things, few bad apples ruin it for all.
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Fuck i'll replace them with half of their wage.
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lol what a stupid statistic...who the hell hasn't thought about quitting? Even a rich person who loves their job at some point has had a moment where they felt like quitting. Frankly 6/10 thinking about quitting tells me that 4/10 are too scared to state their true opinion - and that's a much worse statistic.
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Fuck i'll replace them with half of their wage.
Really? I think that would be what? 35-40k per year?
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That sort of adherence and commitment wouldn't have gotten you into RCMP anyways
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Kinda a dumb survey since everyone thinks about quitting, actually doing it is a different story.
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lol what a stupid statistic...who the hell hasn't thought about quitting? Even a rich person who loves their job at some point has had a moment where they felt like quitting. Frankly 6/10 thinking about quitting tells me that 4/10 are too scared to state their true opinion - and that's a much worse statistic.
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Kinda a dumb survey since everyone thinks about quitting, actually doing it is a different story.
it says thought about it in the PAST 6 MONTHS
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I've thought about quitting my job every month for the last 10 years. The problem is I probably can't find a similiar job that pays as well with the perks and flexible schedulle I have so I keep on hanging around.
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" and who's gonna take his/her jobs seriously when they were thinking about quitting anyway "

The fact that they stay on in spite of all the inside problems, says they fully take their jobs seriously. If they didn't give a toss they would have left.
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Pretty dumb survey - I suppose it's necessary to generate some sympathy from the public after all the recent embarrassing news about RCMP?

There's a lot of good people in the force, unfortunately as it is with all things, few bad apples ruin it for all.
It's a bi-annual internal survey (I believe) that was released to the media because they requested it through the Access to Information Act. It wasn't done with the intention to garner public sympathy. Every company I've worked for has done a very similar internal survey gauging moral and other feelings regarding how we feel about our jobs in general.
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it says thought about it in the PAST 6 MONTHS
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lol what a stupid statistic...who the hell hasn't thought about quitting? Even a rich person who loves their job at some point has had a moment where they felt like quitting. Frankly 6/10 thinking about quitting tells me that 4/10 are too scared to state their true opinion - and that's a much worse statistic.
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Kinda a dumb survey since everyone thinks about quitting, actually doing it is a different story.
did u guys even read the article? its more about the low morale among RCMP and how they're not properly equipped/trained to do their job
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i read it. I wonder why their morale is soo low....... The Taser incident's, Cops running red lights killing innocent victims, and the shit load of Cops getting charged for drunk driving and the most recent i read.... cop having sex with his own sister and all of this is under the microscope of the media and them getting completely hammered for it
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