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There is a proper way to take over a country? We don't have any issues with the natives here in Canada now do we.
In a conventional war today, Israel would pretty much roll over any of the surrounding countries. Syria and Lebanon would be gone in less than a week with Iran bombed to hell within a month if they tried anything stupid.
Europe will sick the Germans on them. At least they know how to get the job done right.
Listen. In regards to the first sentence, obviously Greece isn't responsible for the whole mess, but I merely said that to show how silly he is being. "Fuck zionists," are you kidding me? Obviously everyone is entitled to their own opinions but it's not black and white like that, and I could do the same back to him. Except when I do it your dad's mom rolls in her grave. Give me a break. It's unfortunate that you think so, and it's unfortunate that they have passed away, but I could care less about it. It's kind of annoying how you throw fact that you have jewish and nazi heritage at me as if it gives you some sort of a special status.
I wasn't trying to dictate that I had some sort of "special status" because of my family heritage. It was merely intended to state an implication that even though two different groups were at war with one another, it doesn't mean that they have to continue hating each other after the war ends. If two families from completely different upbringings and views on things can come together to make one, why is it so hard for others? Well, actually I can understand why: As many people state, religion fucks people up and skews their perspective on everything else that they believe is incorrect. Not everyone, but enough that it just screws the rest of the world over.
As for the Six Day war, too bad it was Israel that started it. They claimed that Egypt attacked first, but later withdrew that statement and said it was a preemptive attack because they believed Egypt was preparing to attack, even though Israel had no proof that this was correct. As a result, it broke the armistice agreement Israel and Egypt had and essentially gave Egypt the opening they needed to exact revenge, albeit it took a few years for them to try and make it happen.
The smallest actions often start wars: WW1 was started by the assassination of Archduke Ferdinand, WW2 was started because of unfair treaties and reparations required by Germany and the defunct Austria-Hungary and Ottoman Empires, the Cold War because the USA and USSR couldn't agree on how to configure Europe after WW2, a random shooting at Timika Airport started the Papua Conflict, etc., etc.
Yes, the IDF had the superior force (primarily because they had a technological advantage, not manpower), which allowed them an easy victory. However, that doesn't necessarily mean this is still the case today. You also have to remember that a large portion of the hate for Israel, especially in the view of the Palestines, is that they literally were kicked out of Israel and were refused the ability to go back to their own homes and land that they owned (Absentee Property Laws). As well, Jerusalem was intended to be a UN-run nation, separate from both the Israel and Palestine states. The fact that Israel essentially annexed Eastern Jerusalem has split the countries in the UN over the legality of their "ownership" of that city, though virtually all of the UN members believe that Jerusalem should still be UN-run. This fact is made even stronger by the fact that the UN itself doesn't recognize Jerusalem as the capital of Israel. Hell, even Israel-loving USA doesn't recognize Jerusalem as Israel's capital.
Israel has made it extremely hard on themselves to find any form of world sympathy with many things that they've done. I'm in no means saying that Israel needs to cease to exist; rather, I just think that they need to take a step back and look at everything they've done and to try and make amends before they continue on the path they've chosen. As it stands, it will be their downfall, either politically in the UN or by more explosive measures.
ha ha, you mad. Can't face the fact that the Jews have done more with their little strip of land in 50 years than the Arabs have in their entire existence. Oh wow, they found oil, thanks for coming out.
Do you really want to get into this type of argument? I don't think you realize just how much the Arabs have contributed to modern civilization...
why did the mod ban him. He was just turning belka's hate speech around on him to show how stupid he looks.
Yes, I'm the stupid one.
Lets see more "aid flotillas" headed for Gaza so more protesters die or get arrested. How about Turkey or Iran escort the ships through the blockade, which is a declaration of war against Israel. Perhaps Turkey should focus on internal matters instead of pleading for an ass kicking by Israel.
Destroyed town of east Jebaliya, northern Gaza Strip, Monday, Feb. 16, 2009. (Photo By Mark Pearson) In the course of the 22 days of the operation, the population of Gaza endured intensive uninterrupted aerial bombardments, artillery shelling and ground operations resulting in the killing of 1,440 people and the injury of another 5,380, according to the Palestinian Ministry of Health (MoH) in Gaza.
Really, this madness imposed onto the Gaza strip needs to stop. Where in Israel does it look like this? And a bit offtopic, why did Israel use White Phosphorous despite it being against the rules in the Geneva convention?
So you are blaming Israel for having more advanced weaponry? If Hamas didn't launch rockets into Israel in the first place those pictures would have never been taken.
So the Palestinians elect a terrorist organization into power. What did they expect, friendly table negotiations and chit chat? Israeli bombs > Hamas bombs, they KNOW this, yet they continue to piss off Israel. Is this what the Palestinians want decade after decade? War and bombs?
The Palestinians will get NOTHING if they continue with violence and terrorism. If they are too stupid to realize this then so be it, let them live in squalor and peasantry generation after generation.
So you are blaming Israel for having more advanced weaponry? If Hamas didn't launch rockets into Israel in the first place those pictures would have never been taken.
So the Palestinians elect a terrorist organization into power. What did they expect, friendly table negotiations and chit chat? Israeli bombs > Hamas bombs, they KNOW this, yet they continue to piss off Israel. Is this what the Palestinians want decade after decade? War and bombs?
The Palestinians will get NOTHING if they continue with violence and terrorism. If they are too stupid to realize this then so be it, let them live in squalor and peasantry generation after generation.
But in saying things like this, you're basically saying "If you know you're going to lose, lie down and take it like a bitch." I'm not in any way shape or form condoning any kind of attacks by any group of people, but the entire purpose of any kind of action--violent or otherwise--is to make people realize that there are problems. If the people of Palestine have ELECTED a terrorist government, then it sounds to me like they have gotten so desperate that they feel nothing else will help.
You keep saying "If they lose the guns we'll help them.", but the other side is "If you help them, they won't need the guns." It's a chicken/egg problem. Neither side will give in until the other does.
Lets see more "aid flotillas" headed for Gaza so more protesters die or get arrested. How about Turkey or Iran escort the ships through the blockade, which is a declaration of war against Israel. Perhaps Turkey should focus on internal matters instead of pleading for an ass kicking by Israel.
Yes, you ARE the stupid one.
First, for being an ignorant fucks, believing in your own race superiority over the entire world. (Yes, I agree israel had made huge progress in the past few decades and I happy for them, but trust me, they were only able to do so because US was behind their back, politically, technologically, militarily and financially)
Second, you have complete disregard for other innocent civilians well-being except for your own kind. (a typical character for people who commit genocide)
And finally, you are fucking stupid for creating so much hates and angers toward your own race which you cherish so much.
I don't know where did you get brainwashed with so bullshit in your head, but you need to stop believing your country is a mega power in the world. FYI, a tiny place like Hong Kong produce more GDP than the entire israel.
Yes, you ARE the stupid one.
First, for being an ignorant fucks, believing in your own race superiority over the entire world. (Yes, I agree israel had made huge progress in the past few decades and I happy for them, but trust me, they were only able to do so because US was behind their back, politically, technologically, militarily and financially)
Second, you have complete disregard for other innocent civilians well-being except for your own kind. (a typical character for people who commit genocide)
And finally, you are fucking stupid for creating so much hates and angers toward your own race which you cherish so much.
I don't know where did you get brainwashed with so bullshit in your head, but you need to stop believing your country is a mega power in the world. FYI, a tiny place like Hong Kong produce more GDP than the entire israel.
My race, my country?
I am not Israeli nor am I Jewish, I don't care for religion, Islam, Judaism and whatever other non sense people believe in these days.
btw, little known fact:
There are 12 Million Jews in the entire world and they have received 185 Nobel Prizes. The Muslims number 1.4 Billion or 117 times the number of Jews. Based upon this 117:1 Muslim-to-Jewish ratio, one might expect the Muslims to have 24,920 Nobel Laureates. They have NINE, and one of them [Arafat] is a murderer.
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believing in your own race superiority over the entire world.
Not the entire world, just its surrounding neighbors.
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^^^ that would be the dumbest thing Saudi Arabia ever did... considering Iran would just flatten their Oil industry
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Stephen Harper compares Vancouver MP Libby Davies to terrorist groups
By Mike De Souza, Canwest News Service June 16, 2010
OTTAWA — Prime Minister Stephen Harper stepped up the pressure on the NDP's Libby Davies to resign her position as her party's deputy leader on Wednesday, accusing her of making "extremist" statements about Israel that were similar to the language used by terrorist organizations.
"The deputy leader of the NDP knew full well what she was saying," Harper said during the daily question period in the House of Commons. "She made statements that could have been made by Hamas, Hezbollah or anybody else with no repercussions from that party whatsoever."
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Davies initiated the controversy earlier this month at an anti-Israeli government protest in Vancouver during an interview with an Internet blogger, David Katz, who went outside with an Internet web camera after hearing the crowd going through his neighbourhood. In the interview, she told Katz that she believed Israel had been occupying Palestinian territories since 1948, the year of Jewish independence, and also that she supported a campaign to boycott and sanction the ...state.
While Harper and other critics have suggested Davies was questioning Israel's right to exist, Layton said that the prime minister is manipulating the facts about the controversy.
Wow... Harper just keeps showing how he's not only a dog of the USA but that he's willing to stifle Canadians freedoms, to the extreme, in support of defending Israel
What you have to realize is that there are larger world powers that governs him. He is only a puppet. Look up Bilderberg group.
A bit off topic, why the hell does the G20/G8 summit cost $1.3billion for a 2 day event? Almost a billion is spent on security alone while past summits in London, Scottland, Pittsburg range from $18-100 million. Complete lavish spending of tax payers money. There seems to be more to this story. I am surprised not many people are talking about it.
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