Canon Powershot SD1200is for $98 @ Staples (In store only)

[slammer111]

^ Technically speaking 35mm is the upper limit for "wide angle", but pretty much EVERY camera out there made in the last 20 years is 35mm. Therefore in my books, 35mm is NORMAL.

Maybe I should've specified then. This camera doesn't have anything less than 35mm, such as 28mm. Therefore the pictures it takes are no wider than my 2001 camera.

And I'm hoping you don't go around bragging you have a wide angle 35mm camera because people are going to laugh at you.

[FN-2199]

^ What you look at for wide angle lens is the focal length, not what you bolded.

Focal Length
6.2-18.6mm

For a lens to be considered wide angle in 35mm film format, it must be between 24mm and 35mm.

[slammer111]

^ Thank you. Finally, someone who knows what they're talking about.

I can't imagine how many people ran into the stores buying a camera with a "widescreen" aspect (which is what I bolded) thinking they had wide angle.

For the Apples to Apples comparison, you have to look at the "35mm equivalent" specs. This camera doesn't go below 35mm.

[joquio]

So Best Buy smartened up and dropped their price to $99.99 too!!
More stock to buy from!

[Gh0stRider]

Originally Posted by Jenson Button

How'd it go?

Went to bestbuy at metro, they didn't even have the thing on display.
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[FN-2199]

Originally Posted by Gh0stRider

Went to bestbuy at metro, they didn't even have the thing on display.
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Yes they did. The blue camera on the right side by the camcorders. Retarded placement imo.

[dinamix]

Originally Posted by iRomey

Yes they did. The blue camera on the right side by the camcorders. Retarded placement imo.

yup i was there at 430
bought 2 blue ones

just ask one of the employees

[HonestTea]

Originally Posted by dinamix

yup i was there at 430
bought 2 blue ones

just ask one of the employees

What other colors were there? BESIDES pink lol was there dark grey and silver?

[Meowjin]

Originally Posted by slammer111

^ Technically speaking 35mm is the upper limit for "wide angle", but pretty much EVERY camera out there made in the last 20 years is 35mm. Therefore in my books, 35mm is NORMAL.

Maybe I should've specified then. This camera doesn't have anything less than 35mm, such as 28mm. Therefore the pictures it takes are no wider than my 2001 camera.

And I'm hoping you don't go around bragging you have a wide angle 35mm camera because people are going to laugh at you.

no a 50mm is a normal or a 1:1 lens. (on a FF body)

a 24mm-35mm is wide

anything below 24mm is considered an UWA.

[Meowjin]

Originally Posted by iRomey

^ What you look at for wide angle lens is the focal length, not what you bolded.



For a lens to be considered wide angle in 35mm film format, it must be between 24mm and 35mm.

the lens was made for a smaller sensor, so after sensor FOV multiplier it is 35mm - 105 (or whatever the top end of the lens is).

[Gh0stRider]

Originally Posted by iRomey

Yes they did. The blue camera on the right side by the camcorders. Retarded placement imo.

i circled the display a few times, didn't see it.

[LiquidTurbo]

Originally Posted by slammer111

Camera's half-decent, but nothing special. Doesn't have wide angle. *sigh*

Originally Posted by LiquidTurbo

^
It has 'Widescreen Mode" lol.

Originally Posted by slammer111

No offense dood, but you really have no idea what you're talking about do you. If you think Widescreen and Wide angle are the same, boy have Canon's marketing department done their homework.

http://www.usa.canon.com/consumer/co...elTechSpecsAct

Lens
Focal Length
6.2-18.6mm f/2.8-4.9 (35mm film equivalent: 35-105mm)

Number of Recording Pixels
Still Image: 3648 x 2736 (Large), 2816 x 2112 (Medium 1), 2272 x 1704 (Medium 2), 1600 x 1200 (Medium 3/Date Stamp), 640 x 480 (Small), 3648 x 2048 (Widescreen)
Movie: Standard Definition: 640 x 480 (30 fps), 320 x 240 (30 fps) <- all Letterbox resolutions last time I checked
Available up to 4GB or 60 min. per clip

This thing does NOT have wide angle. They use a regular lens, change the aspect ratio to 16:9 "Widescreen" (which is for 1 resolution btw, and it can't even do widescreen or HD video), and ppl like you go running to the stores to clear out Canon's old inventory for them. The world needs more people like you

Bottom line, the SD1200 is a standard 10MP camera. There's nothing special at all about the specs, other than maybe the D!GIC4 chip, which is found in all the current generation cameras anyways. If you bought a camera in the last 2 years, chances are this camera is a DOWNGRADE compared to what you have.

No thanks, not for me. I'm gonna buy the wide angle camera they put on the rack after all these SD1200s are gone.

Chill out. I put it in "quotations" with an LOL.

[jtanner_]

^ Thread is turning into more win

[LiquidTurbo]

Got a chance to try out the Camera today.




Following pics are directly from the SD1200.

A bit strange on the purple recreation. Couldn't quite get it to look right even after playing with the WB.



Here are some snaps:



ISO 80:


ISO 1600: A bit of noise, but acceptable. The DiGIC 4 processor seems to handle noise a bit better than previous Canon P&S. I believe the sensor is a tad larger than previous gen Canons. Since the Camera is "only 10MP", each pixel is a bit more sensitive to light than high MP point and shoots. It's a little less grainy than my friend's SD780 @ ISO1600.



Decent job @ low light..(for a P&S)
ISO 400, 1/8s, IS on.


Macro is one of the camera's strongpoints:




The Image Stabilization works pretty good. This was @ 1/4s. <- Yea wtf?



For the negatives, you really can't expect much at this price range. It has a rather plastic-y feel which can be somewhat annoying. If you have big pudgy fingers, you won't be pleased with the buttons. My only main gripe with the camera is that there isn't timelapse. No HD video is kind of a bummer, but again, not complaining because of the price. A second annoyance is the camera's slider to change from "Auto, Program, Video". I find it way too finicky and I always overshoot P because the switch moves so easily. I never shoot Auto, so switching between video and Program took more effort than necessary.



On the positive side of things, its super lightweight.. it's cheap (so you can be a big rough with it, use it a backup camera for whatever), and if it breaks it's not the end of the world. The camera itself is also very small. The intelligent auto feature works really well. It was really good at detecting faces and auto switches to Macro mode when you are trying to shoot something close. The Image Stabilization was very effective (usable images at 1/8s and 1/4s which really surprised me) Noise at ISO 1600 was noticeable, but not terrible.


Overall verdict:
This camera's not bad, for $96. It performs ok and it's easy to use. It sorta reminds me of the old SD400, especially with the useless viewfinder. I plan on just using the thing to take 640x480 30FPS video, and still have my SLR for 95% of the other shots I plan to take. For people who don't give a crap about photos and just want to turn on, take photo, turn off, it's a perfect camera. If I paid $179 for this thing I would be slightly underwhelmed. But for $96, it does the job, and you let the negatives points slide. Perfect 'stocking stuffer' type gift. Hope that helps anyone decide.. (since now BB and FS are selling them for the sale price too).

Canon's the P&S king. After almost a decade of making these ELPH P&S, they've pretty much perfected the formula and figured out how to make these things for cheap, user friendly, and packed with decent features, although if you want Time Lapse, true Wide-angle lens, HD video, more solid build quality, 3.0" LCD, you'll have to pay more.

[TypeRNammer]

Originally Posted by LiquidTurbo

Got a chance to try out the Camera today.



For the negatives, you really can't expect much at this price range. It has a rather plastic-y feel which can be somewhat annoying. If you have big pudgy fingers, you won't be pleased with the buttons. My only main gripe with the camera is that there isn't timelapse. No HD video is kind of a bummer, but again, not complaining because of the price. A second annoyance is the camera's slider to change from "Auto, Program, Video". I find it way too finicky and I always overshoot P because the switch moves so easily. I never shoot Auto, so switching between video and Program took more effort than necessary.



On the positive side of things, its super lightweight.. it's cheap (so you can be a big rough with it, use it a backup camera for whatever), and if it breaks it's not the end of the world. The camera itself is also very small. The intelligent auto feature works really well. It was really good at detecting faces and auto switches to Macro mode when you are trying to shoot something close. The Image Stabilization was very effective (usable images at 1/8s and 1/4s which really surprised me) Noise at ISO 1600 was noticeable, but not terrible.


Overall verdict:
This camera's not bad, for $96. It performs ok and it's easy to use. It sorta reminds me of the old SD400. I plan on just using the thing to take 640x480 video, and still have my SLR for 95% of the other shots I plan to take. For people who don't give a crap about photos and just want to turn on, take photo, turn off, it's a perfect camera. If I paid $179 for this thing I would be slightly underwhelmed. But for $96, it does the job, and you let the negatives points slide. Perfect 'stocking stuffer' type gift. Hope that helps anyone decide.. (since now BB and FS are selling them for the sale price too). Canon's the P&S king. After almost a decade of making these ELPH P&S, they've pretty much perfected the formula and figured out how to make these things for cheap.

Thanks for the review, I felt the same way about this camera.

Couple of things though.

This seems to be a canon thing, but anything that's ISO400 or more, it produces alot of noise in the photos.

But if you're nit picky about the features, then this isn't the camera for you.

As for a P&S on the go, it definitely does the job well.



here's a quick macro shot

[LiquidTurbo]

Agreed. If you want better noise handling, better to look at the S90, or the G11, but those are at about 4x pricier. This will definitely be the camera I take when I go snowboarding, or kayaking.