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I'm not siding with either or but you do realize your European ancestors did steal 'their' land and practically raped and pillaged whole tribes hundreds of years ago.
Its not like the government doesn't waste our money on other frivolous expenditures.
That's the way the world was back then. They tried to do that to China, India, Japan, etc. Countries invaded other countries all the time. In feudal times, they fought each other just for kicks.
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Yes, I know, they are just stories, but they are not too farfetched. How about you take a litte stroll through a Reserve by yourself and hangout along the rivers with a fishing pole, and report back what happens. Posted via RS Mobile
I used to all the time, I somehow came away unscathed. Imagine that!
My high school was right by the reserve, so probably 1/3 or 1/4 of the students were native. They were no different from the rest of the kids.
Yes, I know, they are just stories, but they are not too farfetched. How about you take a litte stroll through a Reserve by yourself and hangout along the rivers with a fishing pole, and report back what happens. Posted via RS Mobile
hahaha i drove in to a indian reserve without knowing once .. and i got stared down by every native
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Yes, I know, they are just stories, but they are not too farfetched. How about you take a litte stroll through a Reserve by yourself and hangout along the rivers with a fishing pole, and report back what happens. Posted via RS Mobile
I go to Musqeuam reserve at least once or twice a year. They love me there. "Oh, back again.......nice to see you again. How many sockeye do you want this time?" Actually, it could be because of the way I look. I can pass for a Hawaiian, a native, Chinese, Japanese, Inuit, Vietnamese. Everything except Caucasian or South Asian. Comes in handy. I attribute it all to my experiences growing up in the DTES. I can hang with with all kinds of people. I can put on a native accent and be all laid back, LOL.
Lesson number one. Don't stick out like a sore thumb. Be cool and stop behaving like a tourist. Some people are like dogs. They can sense fear a mile away. Have confidence without being cocky. Fishing pole on a fucking reserve? Holy shit, that's dumb.
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"there but for the grace of god go I"
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Youth is, indeed, wasted on the young.
YODO = You Only Die Once.
Dirty look from MG1 can melt steel beams.
"There must be dissonance before resolution - MG1" a musical reference.
good example from other minority that were also marginalize in the course of history. Hangout is not doing them any good. There is a reason why natives are overrepresent in prison and despite their handout have the lowest level of education compare to others.
whats the deal with their passport? how are they able to have one where they have no land (the reserves are still under jurisdiction of canadian government) no official governement and no recognization from other nations?
Oh god, not more native demands. Seriously, why are they still whining?
No one should have to apologize for winning. I don't get why white people even feel guilty about it.
I'm Chinese and Chinese people had to work on railroads or some shit here in Canada in basically slave conditions. You don't see me crying about head taxes and whatever my people had to do a hundred years ago.
hahaha i drove in to a indian reserve without knowing once .. and i got stared down by every native
lol i had that happen to me too (Musqueam Reserve: http://maps.google.ca/maps?hl=en&ie=...204.94,,0,8.97 ), did it for the experience and was unsure of what was going to happen, the reserves have a mix of houses; some are quite the shitholes, some are actually decent looking house. Personally, I'd do back flips if my neighboor threw all his shit out in his front yard and had a capsized boat on it while my place was neat. Natives aren't mad at white people, they're mad at each other and the shit they have to put up with. Its like when Chris Rock was talking about "black people" and "niggas".
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Oh god, not more native demands. Seriously, why are they still whining?
No one should have to apologize for winning. I don't get why white people even feel guilty about it.
I'm Chinese and Chinese people had to work on railroads or some shit here in Canada in basically slave conditions. You don't see me crying about head taxes and whatever my people had to do a hundred years ago.
there are chinese people that still protest about the head taxes. doesn't mean all people do it.
in the same token, just because the news says natives protest about their conditions doesn't mean ALL natives do it.
Yes, I know, they are just stories, but they are not too farfetched. How about you take a litte stroll through a Reserve by yourself and hangout along the rivers with a fishing pole, and report back what happens. Posted via RS Mobile
hmmm, i knew this kid in HS that was 1/16th native.
fucker got into ubc with shit for marks, didnt do shit in school
fucking pissed me off
man i am with you on this shit, the school admission marks is like.. WTF =.= , so just cuz you are native, it means you are "not as smart" and will need lower standards to get the same degree? i was like WTF =.=
It's not like things like invasion and genocide have an expiry date.
Yes they do. History is filled with atrocities, yet we don't bend over backwards for everyone's great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-...-grandparents that were wronged.
First nations have had more than enough chances to either live their simple life like the Amish successfully do, or to integrate into our modern society. They don't want either, they want handouts. Screw'em.
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They don't want either, they want handouts. Screw'em.
Interesting statement there..........
This is why NativeRus needs to be here. To hear his side of the story, because none of us are experts on the subject.
We have reserves. Nobody is forced to live there, correct? If you leave, you lose some or all of the money you get from the leader(s), plus no house, benefits, etc. Now, this money comes from the government. I'm not sure how much they get.
Is this not a form of control?
There are plenty of First Nations people out there who are not living on reserves. They have mingled with the rest of society. Many of them are no longer "full breeds" <--- not a great term, but I'll use it.
A lot of First Nations people with mixed blood, don't advertise the fact they have a First Nations background. Even if it means losing some form of funding. If I were First Nations, I'd be a little pissed off and confused, too. The way people talk about your kind on forums like this and so on. I try to put myself in other people's shoes - see how/why they are the way they are.
I hope this thread doesn't get to fight club. I hope we get some insight into their (First Nations people) lives, mindset, struggles, challenges, etc. I guess we'll never know because as soon as someone does pipe in, they'll get bombarded with negative comments.
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Dirty look from MG1 can melt steel beams.
"There must be dissonance before resolution - MG1" a musical reference.
it be awesome if we can keep them on their reserves and fence them off and not give them money nor white mans technology and watch them live in the past which they so desire..... that would be soo swell...
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^ how about the white bums on the street addicted to crack and cocaine? they want handouts too. yet the government helps them.
Yes, and that's what our government must do. We cannot let people die on the streets. No matter what the situation.
If you look closely (DTES), it's not just white people or Indigenous peoples anymore. There are Asians, South Asians, you name it. Drug addiction has no boundaries........
People talk shit on RS. Let's incinerate the DTES, blah, blah, blah. The DTES is there because of the attitudes we have as a society. Everything from the way we don't care about our fellow man to the way we just live our lives without........ nvm.
Our society is basically messed up. It's better to just sweep things under the rug. Politicians don't give a fuck. It's easier to just give out money and look good doing it. There is no easy answer to any of this shit. Throwing negative comments out there sure doesn't help.
Sorry, BaoXu, my comments are not directed at you. Just took the opportunity to throw out some random thoughts. Time for my ritalin, LOL.
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"there but for the grace of god go I"
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Youth is, indeed, wasted on the young.
YODO = You Only Die Once.
Dirty look from MG1 can melt steel beams.
"There must be dissonance before resolution - MG1" a musical reference.
I used to all the time, I somehow came away unscathed. Imagine that!
My high school was right by the reserve, so probably 1/3 or 1/4 of the students were native. They were no different from the rest of the kids.
I guess you haven't seen urban native kids then. I went to Macdonald Elementary and Britannia Secondary. Probably the two schools with the most native kids in Vancouver. They were far from normal.
In elementary, every year we would have cops come in to lecture us because some native kids kept stealing shit from 7-11 or value village. We had one native kid steal a car (in grade 6!) and crash into someone, killing 4 passengers in the other vehicle. I've been trying to look for the news article but this was in 1998/1999(?), and if anyone else was at Macdonald, the school made a huge deal out of it trying to get sympathy for the kid (what a joke). We had native kids push a pregnant teacher who subsequently left because she didn't feel safe at the school. The education there was just awful as well. We replaced real school material with fucking potlatches and spent 2 weeks making fucking blankets for elders (for FREE). Out of all the people I remember from that school, probably 1 or 2 went onto university/post-secondary with me.
Moving onto high school, you'd start to see the native kids dropping like flies. By grade 9 or 10, you'd have trouble finding a single native still in school. Most of them didn't even take normal classes and were part of some native program where all they did was go on field trips and learn elementary level material.
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