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08-12-2010, 04:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Ch28  You're here legally and you pay taxes just like the rest of us.
People on the ship are here illegally and they don't pay our taxes yet they feel that it's ok to use our medical resources that could be used for actual citizens? Fuck that. | id rather have our tax money help people that actually need it rather than wasted on sumthing stupid like ferries that dont work or bike lanes that are good 4-5 months out of the year
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08-12-2010, 05:00 PM
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Originally Posted by asahai69 id rather have our tax money help people that actually need it rather than wasted on sumthing stupid like ferries that dont work or bike lanes that are good 4-5 months out of the year | Quote: |
People on the ship are here illegally | What part of that do you not understand?
Why should they receive any treatment at all when normal people have to abide by the rules of the immigration system?
If Canada had a spine then they should have forced the ship to turn back and using force if necessary.
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08-12-2010, 05:05 PM
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Australia turns them away but we welcome them with healthcare and welfare.. Posted via RS Mobile | |
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08-12-2010, 05:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Ch28 What part of that do you not understand?
Why should they receive any treatment at all when normal people have to abide by the rules of the immigration system?
If Canada had a spine then they should have forced the ship to turn back and using force if necessary. | ppl are dying on the bloody thing and apparently there are 20 or so children on the ship. im no expert but im pretty damn sure the conditions on that ship are horrendous. im saying treat them. then send them back.
welcome to canada buddy. if you arent down with the system then vote to change it. whining and crying on an internet forum isnt going to change anything. im pretty sure that they will apply for refugee status and some will get in. but thats just how it goes and i really dont have too big of an issue with it.
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08-12-2010, 05:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Hondaracer Australia turns them away but we welcome them with healthcare and welfare.. Posted via RS Mobile | yeah. and in Australia if you aren't white you get shit on. one hell of a country right?
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08-12-2010, 05:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Manic! What if the ship is in no condition to make it back? | Then charter a few 747's and send them on their way.
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08-12-2010, 06:25 PM
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Manic! from the articles you quoted it seems like you are in favor random boats of people turning up to Canada illegally. This really just hurts the system for people from around the world who legally try to come here.
Rather than quote some obscure news articles from over 80 years ago why not offer an opinion or something more relevant. Things have changed a lot from when those articles took place.
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08-12-2010, 06:42 PM
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Originally Posted by asahai69 yeah. and in Australia if you aren't white you get shit on. one hell of a country right? | sounds like a pretty swell place
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08-12-2010, 07:18 PM
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Originally Posted by scottsman Manic! from the articles you quoted it seems like you are in favor random boats of people turning up to Canada illegally. This really just hurts the system for people from around the world who legally try to come here.
Rather than quote some obscure news articles from over 80 years ago why not offer an opinion or something more relevant. Things have changed a lot from when those articles took place. | Those stores are not obscure to me. Our Country was built on illegal immigration.
This is my Canada. http://jameskeller.ca/cp_refugees.html
Story from a person who arrived by boat illegally in 87. I bet he pays more taxes than you do. http://web.mac.com/hawkroad/Site_9/Hide_%26_Sikh.html
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08-12-2010, 07:35 PM
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Estimates on the number of illegal immigrants in Canada generally range from 35,000 to 120,000 -- a relatively small percentage of the national population when compared to 13 million in the United States.
| http://www.canada.com/nationalpost/n...8-21ba5a3dd922
so if there are around that many illegal immigrants already in this country. why are you people soo worried about a couple hundred comming off a boat now. if everyone was so choked about illegal immigrants why dont you all get together and try passing laws like they are doing in Arizona?
believe me. 99% of people that are angry right now will forget in 1 month and it will be back to normal for all of you. if you guys eventually remember this story down the road just think of what these people had to go through just to get to this country and maybe think about the lives it might change.
when daniel igali won the gold medal i didnt hear anyone complaining that he wasnt a canadian even though he pretty much did the same thing these people are doing. but in his situation. he flew over and didnt go through months and months of traveling on a busted ass boat
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08-12-2010, 07:41 PM
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i seriously hope they dont bring their fucking diseases to us and cause a bigger epidemic! That would suck balls 
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08-12-2010, 09:08 PM
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Originally Posted by [evo]xchange i seriously hope they dont bring their fucking diseases to us and cause a bigger epidemic! That would suck balls | You mean like the white people did? and I'm pretty sure they are quarantined and check out by doctors when they get there.
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08-12-2010, 09:21 PM
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the vietnamese first came here by boat as refugees. look how their community has thrived and how they give back to our community
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08-12-2010, 09:34 PM
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Originally Posted by BaoXu the vietnamese first came here by boat as refugees. look how their community has thrived and how they give back to our community | Come on now, who doesn't like a good bowl of Pho? 
Anyways, back on topic. I don't have anything against the refugees, I'd just rather see this kind of effort from our authorities dealing with our own problems (Our own homelessness, poor, sick etc.) than with some other country's problems.
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Originally Posted by Great68 Come on now, who doesn't like a good bowl of Pho? | The Tamils, they don't eat beef.
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08-12-2010, 09:54 PM
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Originally Posted by BaoXu The Tamils, they don't eat beef. | I think they do eat beef. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cuisine_of_Sri_Lanka
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I bet he pays more taxes than you do.
| I don't pay any taxes as I am no longer classified as a resident in Canada but what does the amount of taxes someone pay have to do with it. Because he makes more money than me he is more Canadian? I certainly don't consider him less Canadian than me because I was born here.
I haven't completely read every article you have posted but were the people coming here illegally on the terror watch list of Canada? The Tamil Tigers are considered a terrorist organization by our government. I like to pride myself on being Canadian but alarm bells should go off when no other country is willing to accept this boat. Quote: |
I don't have anything against the refugees, I'd just rather see this kind of effort from our authorities dealing with our own problems (Our own homelessness, poor, sick etc.) than with some other country's problems.
| Exactly, why not fix up the DTES. From another post in VOT it is easily recognized as one of the worst areas in North America for a variety of reasons.
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I've got nothing wrong with immigration, if it's done LEGALLY. There are long long lists of people waiting to get into Canada the right way yet these goofballs think loading up on a ship and landing on our shore makes it OK.
BULL shit.
My grandparents (both sides) came from Germany after the war. Did they sneak in under false identitys and by border hopping? NO. They came over, applied for the correct documents and after proving productive in society, after a certain amount of time they were allowed to apply for citizenship. And here I am today.
Maniac, it has NOTHING to do with "how much taxes" you pay. I could care less if someone pays $500,000 in taxes, they are here against the law and should be dealt with accordingly. It has everything to do with following due process. Leave it to bleeding heart, hippy liberals.
That's how it works guys... take it or leave it. I'm sure you would love to go back to the place you fled.. eh?
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Exactly, why not fix up the DTES. From another post in VOT it is easily recognized as one of the worst areas in North America for a variety of reasons.
| A billion plus has already been spent on the DTES.
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That's how it works guys... take it or leave it. I'm sure you would love to go back to the place you fled.. eh?
| I fled Nanaimo to visit my sister in Cloverdale for a few days. I will be going back to the place I fled tomorrow.
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08-12-2010, 11:14 PM
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haha i was filming right next to the female jail in maple ridge today that is going to house these refugees.
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This is gonna sound insensitive, and it is.
Dont let them in. We should have told them to turn around as soon as they left. What gave them the idea that they can just sail up to Canada's doorstep, and be let in? If that happened 100 miles south, i'm sure they would be turned around instantly. Apparently they are also setting up tents and porta potties and all that shit for them. Is it just me, or is it fucked up to do things like this, for people that are trying to get into our country illegally, and completely neglecting all the people that need help which are actual Canadian residents?
Those are some slightly fucked up priorities. Sure its the more empathic and kind thing to do, to just let them into the country, no questions asked, but legislation and laws are in place for a reason. You want in? Come in legally.
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08-12-2010, 11:31 PM
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why are people surprised. It's Canada...we are probably the only Western country that take in shit loads of refugees a year.
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I think Manic! is missing the point of most people on here. Providing sanctuary for those truly in danger (e.g. the woman in Iran sentence to stoning) is pretty justified to anyone. But when you have hordes of people successfully entering another country, it opens a hell hole to their friends back home. This is what happened in Europe with all the North African and Middle Eastern (and now even Mainland Chinese) overground refugees who head for the UK -- up until late last year there was a HUGE illegal refugee slum camp at Calais, France where they would wait for chances to slip onto the Chunnel cargo trains headed for England!
Added to the fact that we have a huge DTES problem that we can't even fix!
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