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Old 08-15-2010, 12:05 AM   #101
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Manic, "having trouble finding reliable workers" in theory should mean that the wage they're being paid isn't sufficient, or that the experience or work they're doing isn't valuable to them.

When people like your Uncle bring in foreign workers, it artificially lowers the realistic minimum wage by creating a new class of workers--those who will do anything to get the hell out of their home countries.

You say that "working 12 hours a day 6-7 days a week adds up", but why should anyone HAVE TO do that? I teach foreign students English for a living--one of the reasons people come here and fall in love is that people DON'T find themselves working 12 hours a day 6-7 days a week. One of the reasons wages are so low in Korea (specific example) is because of all the chinese/philippino/cambodian/vietnamese workers who make even less than korean minimum wage, and are willing to work as hard as they can just to make ends meet.



As a result, people are working harder and earning less. Certainly, your Uncle is noble in helping a relative. But he's making everyone else's life harder on the whole too. Sadly, at the same time Ulic is right as well. When we only let rich people in (economic immigrant status), it only accellerates the ghettoization of Vancouver. Without a balance including a good number of middle-class individuals, Vancouver will only become more and more imbalanced, and the easygoing lifestyle we have enjoyed and still can will be the same as that of Manhattan--only available to those lucky enough to be born into it.
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$800 rent where are you looking? My cousin pays $450 in Surrey for a basement suite and Indian/Bangladeshi food is cheap when bought in bulk and cooked at home . Working 12 hours a day 6 or 7 days a week adds up.


Also the Tamil community says they will help the refugee's.
If that's the case please have the Tamil community pay for the medical bill, education bill for the refugee's kid and everything for the refugee beccasue I don't know want my tax dollars going towards them.

I rather my tax dollars goes fix the roads that I use regularly and provide a better highway system.
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These refugees are being more welcomed by the CBSA than we are when we cross the border.
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Lol let the people in, They took a huge risk and made it here. This is Canada they all came here for a better substantial life, beside we only get one shot at life... Think of their position I'm sure someone on that boat has an amazing story to tell and just looking for a new shot at living. All you guys telling to go back should all be shipped to Africa and eat shit.

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If that's the case please have the Tamil community pay for the medical bill, education bill for the refugee's kid and everything for the refugee beccasue I don't know want my tax dollars going towards them.

I rather my tax dollars goes fix the roads that I use regularly and provide a better highway system.
So if the government lets them stay and the Tamil community pays for everything do the refugees still have to pay taxes?
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So if the government lets them stay and the Tamil community pays for everything do the refugees still have to pay taxes?
IF they can find a legal job.
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IF they can find a legal job.
Income tax is not the only tax out there and it's not hard to find work if you are willing to work at a low end job.
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You say that "working 12 hours a day 6-7 days a week adds up", but why should anyone HAVE TO do that? I teach foreign students English for a living--one of the reasons people come here and fall in love is that people DON'T find themselves working 12 hours a day 6-7 days a week. One of the reasons wages are so low in Korea (specific example) is because of all the chinese/philippino/cambodian/vietnamese workers who make even less than korean minimum wage, and are willing to work as hard as they can just to make ends meet.
agree with what you have said and would like to point out that instead of being taken advantage of in their country, they have come to another country to be taken advantage of.

Manic, thanking Spoonfit's post doesn't really help people to understand your point of view. If he could have provided something insightful into the discussion I would understand the thanks but when someone says this:

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Lol let the niggas in, They took a huge risk and made it here. This is Canada they all came here for a better substantial life, beside we only get one shot at life... Think of their position I'm sure someone on that boat has an amazing story to tell and just looking for a new shot at living. All you guys telling to go back should all be shipped to Africa and eat shit.

Lol fucking rs.
I wouldn't want this kind of support when arguing a point.
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all of you bitching and complaining about this shoulda gone to comox or wherever the ship is and protested. i saw there were like 8 people with signs up. you all coulda easily doubled the numbers.

complaining about shit on an internet forum dosent get you anywhere. unless the people complaining just want something to bitch about
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all of you bitching and complaining about this shoulda gone to comox or wherever the ship is and protested. i saw there were like 8 people with signs up. you all coulda easily doubled the numbers.

complaining about shit on an internet forum dosent get you anywhere. unless the people complaining just want something to bitch about
complaining in person doesn't do anything either. This has been going on for years, and has no signs of changing
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Lol let the niggas in, They took a huge risk and made it here. This is Canada they all came here for a better substantial life, beside we only get one shot at life... Think of their position I'm sure someone on that boat has an amazing story to tell and just looking for a new shot at living. All you guys telling to go back should all be shipped to Africa and eat shit.

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Hmmm.... so we should let in anyone that has a great story to tell. Interesting idea.
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Whenever I see crap like this wasting all the thousands and thousands of tax dollars I pay, I feel like a freakin philanthropist to a worthless cause.
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I was browsing RFD just now and a bunch of people in GTA are reporting that the news said there are 2 more ships headed to our coast.

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They'd better not let those two boats in. One is enough. Letting in more just shows how Canada can be TOO compassionate.
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They'd better not let those two boats in. One is enough. Letting in more just shows how Canada can be TOO compassionate.
O I think Canada will keep letting them in.
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Income tax is not the only tax out there and it's not hard to find work if you are willing to work at a low end job.
Elders will most likely accept working low end jobs. These younger men will be the ones pushin drugs and committing crimes for money hence more violence in our community.
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Lol let the niggas in, They took a huge risk and made it here. This is Canada they all came here for a better substantial life, beside we only get one shot at life... Think of their position I'm sure someone on that boat has an amazing story to tell and just looking for a new shot at living. All you guys telling to go back should all be shipped to Africa and eat shit.

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Elders will most likely accept working low end jobs. These younger men will be the ones pushin drugs and committing crimes for money hence more violence in our community.
And you know this how?

The drugs dealers I know of are born in Canada and don't want to work as hard as there parents but want to live the good life.

I know a number of under 30 immigrants and the amount some of them work is ridiculous.
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And you know this how?

The drugs dealers I know of are born in Canada and don't want to work as hard as there parents but want to live the good life.
So you're saying that people coming in and working ridiculously long hours seems unreasonable to people born here.


Hmmmm....
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complaining in person doesn't do anything either. This has been going on for years, and has no signs of changing
if there are enough people to complain then it will change
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if there are enough people to complain then it will change
If there are enough people who are well-spoken and can accurately express their ideas in a logical and clear yet emotional manner, people will begin to pay attention.

Which may at one point translate into votes. Which may eventually change some things. The question as to whether we want single-issue candidates, on the other hand...
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We need some Jan Brewers in here.

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/04/24/us...s/24immig.html
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