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Originally Posted by asahai69 (Post 7070432)

if there are enough people to complain then it will change

I see that's going mighty well with the HST and BC carbon tax.

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Originally Posted by darkfroggy (Post 7070529)

I see that's going mighty well with the HST and BC carbon tax.

in the end of the day. those 2 taxes are actually good for BC and good for you.

Turn them away.

...or else another boatload of freeloaders is going to turn up tomorrow.

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Originally Posted by SpoonFit (Post 7068401)

Lol let the niggas in, They took a huge risk and made it here. This is Canada they all came here for a better substantial life, beside we only get one shot at life... Think of their position I'm sure someone on that boat has an amazing story to tell and just looking for a new shot at living. All you guys telling to go back should all be shipped to Africa and eat shit.

Lol fucking rs.
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send the bills to this guy

tell them to come back another time
bad timing, not one month after HST
everyone is senstive about pissing off tax money

have them fight to the death for who gets to stay

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Originally Posted by SpoonFit (Post 7070791)

Heartless.

No not heartless. Having compassion for refugees and letting them into the country are two opposite things.

I try to look at the situation as line-jumping. We have legitimate applicants from persons of other countries that are waiting to be accepted to come into Canada. Now these people will have to wait longer because of line-jumpers like the ones on the boat.

Not only that, but we will be paying for them for the next couple of years. Unless our government does anything to prevent this from the future, more and more ships will be destined for our shorelines.

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Originally Posted by Eastwood (Post 7070836)

best be honest with you that I don't follow up on politics, but just from a sideline view..it is heartless because this is the way life is, unfortunately.

Everything down to the way the system works, taxes, justice system, banks, everything down to the core is hella corrupted.

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Originally Posted by Not really racist! (Post 7070860)

Then you shouldn't have started running your mouth if you know nothing :rolleyes:

This is a forum, its what people do, voice their opinions and shit.

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Originally Posted by SpoonFit (Post 7070854)

isnt this your fourth account?

Thread cleaned up, 60 points and a ban given out.

Play nice. I don't.

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72 points now.

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Originally Posted by Eastwood (Post 7070836)

PM me your paypal or home address and I will send you your portion of tax dollars that went to these refugees If that will make you happy.

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Originally Posted by Manic! (Post 7071341)

PM me your paypal or home address and I will send you your portion of tax dollars that went to these refugees If that will make you happy.

I might be careful of that were I you--others might make the same request.

But you are then faced with a very interesting and apt problem: When one person who needs or asks for something that others may or may not get gets it because they are loud and complain, others who want the same thing will try the same tack. Once you give in once, how do you justify refusing others? By saying there's not enough resources? By saying "We (I) don't have enough to give you what you want."

Hmm.

Damn I missed all the action. So many points.

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best be honest with you that I don't follow up on politics, but just from a sideline view..it is heartless because this is the way life is, unfortunately.

So does this mean that everyone who has a shit life should be allowed to come to Canada? There are billions of people who would benefit from coming to Canada why should a small group of them be allowed to stay here illegally. If I was an applicant waiting in line to come here I would be pissed.

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Originally Posted by scottsman (Post 7071351)

Damn I missed all the action. So many points.

So does this mean that everyone who has a shit life should be allowed to come to Canada? There are billions of people who would benefit from coming to Canada why should a small group of them be allowed to stay here illegally. If I was an applicant waiting in line to come here I would be pissed.

The flip side is that you might be happy that Canada is continuing to be a kind and considerate free country; the kind you want to live in and your kids to grow up in. That you are looking for an alternative to the despotic/wartorn/overworked/underpaid/fillintheproblemhere nation you come from.

Just being a bit of a devil's advocate.

A somewhat but not really surprising announcement made by the Conversative Government. (Source - CBC News)

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Tamil ship could lead to law change: Harper

Prime Minister Stephen Harper says the federal government "will not hesitate" to change its laws to give authorities greater powers to curb human smuggling in the wake of the arrival of a ship carrying hundreds of Tamil migrants in B.C. last week.

Speaking to reporters on Tuesday in Mississauga, Ont., the prime minister said Canada is a "land of refuge" but the "abnormal" arrival of a ship carrying migrants creates "significant security concerns" the government has a responsibility to handle.

Prime Minister Stephen Harper speaks to reporters during a transit announcement in Mississauga, Ont., on Tuesday. (Frank Gunn/Canadian Press)"We will not hesitate to strengthen the laws if we have to, because ultimately as a government, we're responsible," Harper said. "It's a fundamental exercise of sovereignty, and we're responsible for the security of our borders and the ability to welcome people or not welcome people when they come."

The prime minister did not elaborate on what legal changes the government might consider but said the wider issue of human smuggling is a "growing concern" around the world.

"This trend gives us some significant concern, and we'll take whatever steps are necessary going forward," he said.

The MV Sun Sea arrived in B.C. early Friday carrying roughly 490 Tamil migrants, who deny any involvement with terrorism and claim they are fleeing "mass murder" in Sri Lanka. But government officials say they believe there are links between the ship and the Tamil rebel group, the Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam, or LTTE.

The group, also known as the Tamil Tigers, has been banned in Canada as a terrorist organization since 2006 for its use of child soldiers and suicide bombers during Sri Lanka's bloody 25-year civil war.

Opposition critics have called on the Conservative government to show more compassion for the plight of those on board the MV Sun Sea instead of linking the migrants to terrorism.

Liberal MP Marc Garneau said Public Safety Minister Vic Toews should "lower the tone" of the security concerns and allow the refugee application process to play out. He noted the new cases represented only two per cent of the 30,000 refugee applications Canada receives annually.

"We have an obligation to look at each person in a case-by-case basis," Garneau said. "A sense of proportion would be nice."

As a signatory to the UN Convention on Refugees, Canada is obliged not to send migrants back to their own country if they face persecution there.

But Sri Lankan government officials have chided the Canadian government for not turning away the Sun Sea, saying the money paid to the smugglers by the migrants will go toward the Tamil Tigers' efforts to regroup. Sri Lanka has also denied the migrants' claims that Tamils continue to face abuse and mistreatment in the country following the defeat of Tigers last year.

Immigration officials were expected to begin detention review hearings on Tuesday in Vancouver.

The Canada Border Services Agency reports that of the 492 migrants who arrived aboard the vessel, 63 are women and 49 are children.

Last October, 76 Tamil migrants who arrived in a boat off Vancouver Island claimed refugee status, saying they were fleeing persecution. All were eventually released from custody after allegations that some were linked to the Tamil Tigers were not proven.

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Originally Posted by Graeme S (Post 7071349)

I might be careful of that were I you--others might make the same request.

I think I can afford paying a few people a couple of bux at the most.

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Originally Posted by asahai69 (Post 7070595)

in the end of the day. those 2 taxes are actually good for BC and good for you.

Never said they were bad.

Just said the whining and complaining about it wasn't going to get rid of it.

^ but this is something to actually complain about LOL. not fighting HST

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Originally Posted by Graeme S (Post 7070518)

If there are enough people who are well-spoken and can accurately express their ideas in a logical and clear yet emotional manner, people will begin to pay attention.

Which may at one point translate into votes. Which may eventually change some things. The question as to whether we want single-issue candidates, on the other hand...

is this such a big issue at the moment to vote for single issue candidates?

example Arizona.

atleast it seems like the government is doing something about it now.

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Originally Posted by Great68 (Post 7067029)

In a nutshell, Sri Lanka is made up of two main ethnic groups: Sinhalese (The majority) and Tamils (Minority)

Sri Lanka was under British Rule until 1948, when the Sinhalese community wanted political independence and the British granted it. When they were drawing up the new constiution the Sinhalese and Tamils started having disagreements. The Sinhalese being the majority passed a "Sinhala only act" establishing Sinhalese as the only official language.
Of course, the Tamils weren't happy about that and started forming militant groups, and the civil war happened.

The Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam, or "Tamil Tigers" were a military group known for their brutal attacks and massacres of civilians and/or surrenderees. These brutal attacks caused them to be labelled as a "Terrorist group" by many of the world's governments, including Canada.

On May 17 2009, the Tamil tigers admit defeat.

I'm sure there was wrongdoing on both sides. But I would hate for one of these refugees to be someone that hacked some innocent civilian's head open with an axe while he slept, and then get to stay in Canada.

Awesome, thanks.

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Originally Posted by dhillon09 (Post 7068308)

Sorry typed in a rush,

What I meant is the jews and the indians were both situations where they should have been allowed. I forget the statistic but I think all of the jews that tried to come here, ended up in concentration camps.

And so now, to avoid looking bad or horrible in the eyes of other countries/potential tourists they're just trying to seem more humanitarian and hospitable to everyone. Which, like a previous statement said, will have everyone living in a third world country trying to get here, 'cause we take everyone.

See above, from the looks of it these people should be fine back home (aside from any Tamil Tiger members, should there be any). So I say send them back, along with a bill for anything this has cost us. As far as these two other ships on their way, turn them back as soon as they enter our waters.

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Originally Posted by underscore (Post 7072144)

Awesome, thanks.

See above, from the looks of it these people should be fine back home

Yes everything is fine over there.

Pictures from last year.

http://www.abc.net.au/reslib/200904/r361827_1670841.jpg

http://www.armybase.us/wp-content/up...-sri-lanka.jpg

http://i.telegraph.co.uk/telegraph/m...1_1379169c.jpg

last year = war. this year =\= war...

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Originally Posted by underscore (Post 7072266)

last year = war. this year =\= war...

You think after 20+ years of fighting and having your house destroyed everything will be OK and now they all live in houses with indoor plumbing and electricity? sri lanka is a third world country and people living in the downtown east side have it better than many people living in Sri Lanka.

Not my war, not my problem. I am not paying for their medical bills, welfare and shit.

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Originally Posted by Manic! (Post 7072279)

:cry: :rolleyes: