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Manic! 08-18-2010 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by ImportPsycho (Post 7072301)
:cry: :rolleyes:

At least they something to really complain about unlike some people complaining about the HST like it's going to kill them.

underscore 08-18-2010 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Manic! (Post 7072279)
You think after 20+ years of fighting and having your house destroyed everything will be OK and now they all live in houses with indoor plumbing and electricity? sri lanka is a third world country and people living in the downtown east side have it better than many people living in Sri Lanka.

So you think we should let every fucking person in a third world country just show up in Canadian ports and move in? How about we better Canada for the people already fucking living here first, and then worry about the rest of the world.

I know their country isn't exactly in the best shape right after a long war, but what do you expect? It's a goddamn third world country, and their are a lot shittier ones to live in.

Also the people in the DTES don't all have houses, let alone indoor plumbing and electricity. Do you honestly think that they do?

gdoh 08-19-2010 08:16 AM

just a good "joke" that was sent to me this morning...ill just leave it here

*LET ME SEE IF I GOT THIS RIGHT..*

IF YOU CROSS THE NORTH KOREAN BORDER ILLEGALLY YOU GET 12 YEARS HARD LABOR.

IF YOU CROSS THE IRANIAN BORDER ILLEGALLY YOU ARE DETAINED INDEFINITELY.

IF YOU CROSS THE AFGHAN BORDER ILLEGALLY, YOU GET SHOT.

IF YOU CROSS THE SAUDI ARABIAN BORDER ILLEGALLY YOU WILL BE JAILED.

IF YOU CROSS THE CHINESE BORDER ILLEGALLY YOU MAY NEVER BE HEARD FROM AGAIN.

IF YOU CROSS THE VENEZUELAN BORDER ILLEGALLY YOU WILL BE BRANDED A SPY AND YOUR FATE WILL BE SEALED.

IF YOU CROSS THE CUBAN BORDER ILLEGALLY YOU WILL BE THROWN INTO POLITICAL PRISON TO ROT.

IF YOU CROSS THE CANADIAN BORDER ILLEGALLY YOU GET
* A JOB,
* A DRIVERS LICENSE,
* SOCIAL SECURITY CARD,
* WELFARE,
* FOOD STAMPS,
* CREDIT CARDS,
* SUBSIDIZED RENT OR A LOAN TO BUY A HOUSE,
* FREE EDUCATION,
* FREE HEALTH CARE
* BILLIONS OF DOLLARS WORTH OF PUBLIC DOCUMENTS PRINTED IN YOUR LANGUAGE
* THE RIGHT TO CARRY YOUR COUNTRY’S FLAG WHILE YOU PROTEST THAT YOU DON’T GET ENOUGH RESPECT

I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE I HAD A FIRM

GRASP ON THE SITUATION…

Jermyzy 08-19-2010 12:59 PM

I don't have any sympathy for this guy...he says he "just wants a chance". I'm sure he's been more than one chance already...

http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/18082010/...-sentence.html

Ottawa man calls deportation order to native Somalia a death sentence

"OTTAWA - An Ottawa man who's to be deported to his native Somalia - a country he left two decades ago - because of his criminality says the punishment amounts to a death sentence.

"I will probably get killed; it's like the wild, wild west over there," Abadir Ali said during an interview at the Ottawa-Carleton Detention Centre, where he's been held for more than two years by Citizenship and Immigration Canada.

In Somalia, Ali said, he would be targeted because he doesn't speak the language and has no immediate family to help him. The 27-year-old has few memories of the east African country where he spent his early years.

Ali was born on Jan. 1, 1983 in the town of Hargeisa, in northern Somalia, where his father was a member of the Somali National Movement. The movement opposed the regime of then-Somali dictator, Siad Barre.

His family was forced to flee Hargeisa when it came under bombardment by government forces in 1988. Ali spent the next three years in a refugee camp; his father was jailed.

He remembers "mostly chaos" from his childhood in Somalia.

Ali arrived in Canada with his stepmother in August 1991, and was granted refugee status one year later. He clashed with his stepmother, however, and grew up largely in foster homes. He has since lost touch with most of his immediate family, including his father.

Last year, the immigration department declared Ali a threat to Canadians because of five adult criminal convictions, two of them for violent assaults. A Federal Court judge recently upheld that assessment.

Immigration authorities are now preparing to deport Ali, who insists he is not the hardened criminal portrayed by federal officials. He has never been sentenced to federal prison time - two years or more - for any of his offences.

"I'm a human being; everybody makes mistakes in their lives," he said, adding: "There's much worse guys out there than me walking around the streets."

Ali appealed to Immigration Minister Jason Kenney to halt his deportation.

"Don't treat me like a number," he pleaded. "I just want to be with my girlfriend and the two kids. I just want a chance."

Erin Carruthers, 26, an Ottawa child-and-youth worker, has been involved with Ali for more than three years. They met at a Tim Hortons coffee shop where Ali helped Carruthers with her two young children.

The federal government moved to deport Ali after he pleaded guilty to aggravated assault in the July 2007 beating of a legally blind woman in downtown Ottawa. The victim was kicked and punched so badly that she had to undergo brain surgery.

In January 2008, Ali was sentenced to 47 days in jail for the crime in addition to the five months he had already served.

But he has been in jail ever since - stalled by an immigration "hold" while his deportation case proceeds.

Ali contends he has already been punished twice for the crime, and if deported, will be punished yet again.

"I'm remorseful, I really am," he said. "But what they're trying to do is crazy. I feel like I'm being kicked around like a football.""

underscore 08-19-2010 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Jermyzy (Post 7073269)
"I'm remorseful, I really am," he said. "But what they're trying to do is crazy. I feel like I'm being kicked around like a football.""

Ironic, I'm guessing this is how the woman he beat felt at the time... get him the fuck out of Canada

scottsman 08-19-2010 09:57 PM

Quote:

You think after 20+ years of fighting and having your house destroyed everything will be OK and now they all live in houses with indoor plumbing and electricity? sri lanka is a third world country and people living in the downtown east side have it better than many people living in Sri Lanka.
Manic! have you had a chance to live in a 3rd world country? Majority of people living in a 3rd world country may not have plumbing or electricity but that is normal for them so it doesn't affect their lives in a negative way. I work with people in Vietnam who make less than 100$usd a month yet they put food on the table for their family, have a house, clothing, etc. By the standards set here they are living a normal life. You cannot compare the DTES to people in a 3rd world country. Like comparing apples and oranges.

fliptuner 10-20-2010 01:43 PM

Well, it looks like a lot of the Bhutanese refugees ended up in Coquitlam.

http://www.thenownews.com/life/Stude...544/story.html

optiblue 10-20-2010 08:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jermyzy (Post 7073269)
I don't have any sympathy for this guy...he says he "just wants a chance". I'm sure he's been more than one chance already...

http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/18082010/...-sentence.html

Ottawa man calls deportation order to native Somalia a death sentence

"OTTAWA - An Ottawa man who's to be deported to his native Somalia - a country he left two decades ago - because of his criminality says the punishment amounts to a death sentence.

"I will probably get killed; it's like the wild, wild west over there," Abadir Ali said during an interview at the Ottawa-Carleton Detention Centre, where he's been held for more than two years by Citizenship and Immigration Canada.

In Somalia, Ali said, he would be targeted because he doesn't speak the language and has no immediate family to help him. The 27-year-old has few memories of the east African country where he spent his early years.

Ali was born on Jan. 1, 1983 in the town of Hargeisa, in northern Somalia, where his father was a member of the Somali National Movement. The movement opposed the regime of then-Somali dictator, Siad Barre.

His family was forced to flee Hargeisa when it came under bombardment by government forces in 1988. Ali spent the next three years in a refugee camp; his father was jailed.

He remembers "mostly chaos" from his childhood in Somalia.

Ali arrived in Canada with his stepmother in August 1991, and was granted refugee status one year later. He clashed with his stepmother, however, and grew up largely in foster homes. He has since lost touch with most of his immediate family, including his father.

Last year, the immigration department declared Ali a threat to Canadians because of five adult criminal convictions, two of them for violent assaults. A Federal Court judge recently upheld that assessment.

Immigration authorities are now preparing to deport Ali, who insists he is not the hardened criminal portrayed by federal officials. He has never been sentenced to federal prison time - two years or more - for any of his offences.

"I'm a human being; everybody makes mistakes in their lives," he said, adding: "There's much worse guys out there than me walking around the streets."

Ali appealed to Immigration Minister Jason Kenney to halt his deportation.

"Don't treat me like a number," he pleaded. "I just want to be with my girlfriend and the two kids. I just want a chance."

Erin Carruthers, 26, an Ottawa child-and-youth worker, has been involved with Ali for more than three years. They met at a Tim Hortons coffee shop where Ali helped Carruthers with her two young children.

The federal government moved to deport Ali after he pleaded guilty to aggravated assault in the July 2007 beating of a legally blind woman in downtown Ottawa. The victim was kicked and punched so badly that she had to undergo brain surgery.

In January 2008, Ali was sentenced to 47 days in jail for the crime in addition to the five months he had already served.

But he has been in jail ever since - stalled by an immigration "hold" while his deportation case proceeds.

Ali contends he has already been punished twice for the crime, and if deported, will be punished yet again.

"I'm remorseful, I really am," he said. "But what they're trying to do is crazy. I feel like I'm being kicked around like a football.""

This guy has trouble written all over him. I hope he gets what he deserves!


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