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Anyone ever appealed a grade in SFU? Anyone ever appealed a grade in SFU and managed to get success? I received a mark in a course and was not too happy about it. The instructor said the Average for the grade was going to be a B-, and I thought at the beginning, that his intention of grading between an A to a C... making average around B- or so. Throughout 50% of the course which consisted of assignments, presentation and group project, the class pretty much received a B+, B and B- marks, making the average to a B. A 50% of the final mark was from exams... I am not sure about the mark for my final exam but I ended up a B... It seems really unfair that he hardly gives out an As and such, so for that I"m going to appeal because the grading seems vague with no comments and such.\ With that said, I've been reading about the policies as outlined http://www.sfu.ca/policies/teaching/t20-01.htm and it seems that a student's mark will increase, decrease, or stay the same... I don't want to take the risk of decreasing, but I was wondering whether you have had any experiences in doing so and manage to boost or decrease or grade. Please share your experience. Thanks |
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I would say leave it... I really never understand some people about marks. I used to be like that too. Then, when got out there in the real world. I found out marks don't mean anything. It's all about work experience, and knowledge. Marks don't mean the person knows a lot or knows very little. Because, marks can always be given more or less dependent on profs. So really.. I don't get why everyone goes crazy over marks. Just do your best and move on, and MAKE SURE you understood what you learned. Because, at the end of the day what you learned is what you will carry on to the world field. Just because you get a F or C doesn't mean you didn't learn anything about that class. I would say leave it, because your mark isn't going to make a huge difference if they fix it. What? at the most it will go up by 1 grade? Is it worth the hassle? If you had a C- or C I could see you going for it. But for a B+... I don't know about it. |
Sadly, most departments in SFU have a policy of marking on a curve which can be to your benifit or detriment. I've had classes where I walked away with a 60% that turned out an A, and classes where an 87% equalled a C-. This practice gives instructors a great deal of leeway over their grading practices and the ability, essentially to justify nearly anything. If your proff's curve only allows the top 2% to have an A (which may be only 1-3 students in your class dependant on size) that's all he's going to give out. You can appeal to the department head. Had you gotten a C - I would, but for a B I wouldn't be bothered unless you have a scholarship or academic position that requires you maintaining an high GPA. You could also speak to your proff and ask WHY you got a B, he is obligated to give you a clear break down of your mark and where you sit in relation to the rest of your class mates. |
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Trust me friend, just move on and let it go. The break is over now just enjoy your time off till next semester. |
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sounds like good advice for the ECON 301.. |
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also, quite a few companies do look at your grades, for example Pepsi, IBM or TELUS if you apply for their post-grad management/leadership programs. |
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In my case I remember one class where I received a final grade that was lower than I expected. I asked the prof to take a look and he discovered there was an error putting my marks into the system, and so my grade was adjusted the next day. |
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Marks as you know at SFU are changed all the time. Some profs curve marks where someone at 55% gets a 90%. So does that mean this person is suddenly super smart? It will look so on paper! You can go ahead and believe what you want, but I'm throwing in an opinion. If you don't like it just ignore my post. I'm not here to convince you specifically. This is for the OP. Quote:
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Marks matter, if you want to continue on with grad school. Does marks add to your job experience? No. Does marks lead you to more open doors? Yes. As for the OP, which class is this for and who is the prof? I might be able to tell you what are you chances because it really depends. No one likes to be challenged with their marking scheme, so you are in a losing battle. Most of the time, profs don't even mark exams, TAs do, so basically you are asking the prof to do more work. Do you think you are in a winning battle? For myself, I have inquired about my mark, and made sure all my scores were added up and recorded correctly. If there are no mistakes, then I don't see a point for appealing because everyone's grade is on a curve. It just creates more work for you and the prof, do you think he/she will be happy having you bothering them during time off? |
i'm pretty sure TA's mark easier than profs, getting the prof to mark is just asking for it |
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All the TAs and RAs that I have worked with or had to deal with as a student have been much more compassionate and lenient to the students than the proffs. I've known TAs to out right intentionally mark easier then their proffs have requested they do even because the proffs in my department often made tests that were far too diffecult (See the instance above where I noted I once got a 60% in a class and this being in the top 10% of the whole class got me an A... the average was about 49% and that was WITH the TA even giving us what hints he could about the exam ahead of time). |
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sure, a lot of the stuff learned in school doesn't apply to work in the real world. however, that doesn't mean your grades don't matter. your GPA is an accurate representation of your intelligence and work ethic, both of which carry on into your career. sure, if you hire a 3.3 whose already been trained over a 4.0 who hasn't, you can save a bit of money. but how do you know that the 4.0 won't outperform the 3.3 by a considerable amount? If your logic is true, why do big companies like Goldmans, McKinsey, Microsoft, rarely hire people whose average grades are lower than an A-? universities don't hand out 4.0s for nothing. |
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If the material was to hard, then none of the students are considered smart. Material is NEVER hard, it's a matter of how much of it you can comprehend. That means most of the students cannot comprehend all the material taught, which isn't a good thing either. The 4.0 wouldn't outperform the 3.3 at least not in the short run. I've been there in the field and I'm saying this from experience. You guys can believe what you want. When you get there you will realize it. It's like me trying to explain something to you, that you cannot understand till you get their yourself. So I will leave it here and let you feel it when you get there in 10-20 yrs of time with work experience. |
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you're beyond retarded. i can't even find the word to describe how low you have sunk in terms of inteligence. |
harryt probably works at mcdonalds, hence GPA is of no importance to him and his employers. |
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Quite a few companies do look at your grades, for example Pepsi, IBM or TELUS, if you apply for their post-grad management/leadership programs. Quite a few companies do look at your grades, for example Pepsi, IBM or TELUS, if you apply for their post-grad management/leadership programs. Quite a few companies do look at your grades, for example Pepsi, IBM or TELUS, if you apply for their post-grad management/leadership programs. Quite a few companies do look at your grades, for example Pepsi, IBM or TELUS, if you apply for their post-grad management/leadership programs. Quite a few companies do look at your grades, for example Pepsi, IBM or TELUS, if you apply for their post-grad management/leadership programs. Quite a few companies do look at your grades, for example Pepsi, IBM or TELUS, if you apply for their post-grad management/leadership programs. |
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This is another reason why we have an education system. From Harryt's logic, NO ONE should go to school and start gaining work experience right when we know how to walk and speak. Having a specialized degree cuts down A LOT of competition. Well, there's the connection story, but that's different. |
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Guessing everyone is "assuming" I am referring to fresh grad students. |
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