Who wants to win $$$$?

[Hondaracer]

^ no shit it doesnt work betting $25 hands, thats your typical hasty betting that typical BJ players use, absolutely no strategy and relying completely on luck.

this strategy obviously does have a place because alot of local casinos have changed their $5 minimum tables to $275 maximum, hence limiting your ability to chase losses, so they saw a slight flaw and fixed it by lowering the max.

I use this system at almost any table game i play, and in Vegas i've -never- lost using it

here's what i do in Vegas at $5 outside roulette, they have $5 minimum, $500 maximum there

so lets say the last color rolled is red, i will follow whatever the last color was [*disclaimer, green's are your enemy with this strat]

so it goes red, i bet red

if it goes black and i lose, i will bet black the following bet and double my bet

so $5 on red, it rolled black

i will then bet $10 on black

it rolls red, i will bet $20 on red

it goes black, i will bet $40 on black

it goes red, i will bet $80 on red

it goes black, i will bet $160 on black

it goes green, thats basically a null bet, but i will run on the previous color

green, i will bet $320 on black

it goes red, i will then give a friend $320, to put down on red, and i will put $320 on red

So.. basically i'm relying that during those 8 turns, at some point it will go red-red, or black-black, and i will gain my money back completely + $5

it's not to say that the pattern wont go back and forth for 8 turns, or that 2 greens might show up, but I like my odd's of having 8 chances to come out ahead, rather than hastly betting random amounts, you may never win big with this strat, but I prefer following some sort of system rather than betting random amounts and hoping for the best.

EDIT* and the Bodog online casino has a minimum $1 max $5 so you have an extra 2 turns there, but it's online and obviously sketchier

[FN-2199]

Basic mentality for Blackjack is to not get greedy, and set your limit. If you're at a huge loss, just stop. People often forget that the objective is to beat the Dealer, who only has to get 17, and end up hitting soft 19's to get 21.

Take tacobell's advice. Don't even bother touching Blackjack.

[choda]

I used the same method as Honda but on baccarat, trust me it seems like a good idea when you initially do it, and it worked for me, or so I thought. I was playing my system and got all the way to 649.55 and I was like nice! One more hand and I'll stop! NOT!! No matter how much you think your system is fool proof, there will always be that one time where you think the odds are so low of something happening, but it happens. For example, I ran into a situation where there were 11 bankers in mother fucking ROW and lost all the 649.55 I had! Also, when I play roulette, not online but at the casino, I've seen a whole board FULL of only reds. Chasing your losses is what fucks people over with casinos, in my opinion I would stay away from that system.

[Hondaracer]

well in those cases, how are you losing if there is that long of a run? your betting on the oposite of what is being rolled?

[InvisibleSoul]

Originally Posted by Hondaracer

I use this system at almost any table game i play, and in Vegas i've -never- lost using it

MOST times it will work. The problem is the eventually there will be ONE time that it will NOT work, and you'll lose a crap load of money.

here's what i do in Vegas at $5 outside roulette, they have $5 minimum, $500 maximum there

so lets say the last color rolled is red, i will follow whatever the last color was [*disclaimer, green's are your enemy with this strat]

so it goes red, i bet red

if it goes black and i lose, i will bet black the following bet and double my bet

Your "strategy" is absolutely NO DIFFERENT than if you kept betting the same colour over and over.

The chances of hitting eight reds consecutively is EXACTLY THE SAME as hitting red-black-red-black-red-black-red-black.

It doesn't matter that you alternate... you are STILL using the Martingale system, which DOES NOT WORK.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marting...ting_system%29

it's not to say that the pattern wont go back and forth for 8 turns, or that 2 greens might show up, but I like my odd's of having 8 chances to come out ahead, rather than hastly betting random amounts, you may never win big with this strat, but I prefer following some sort of system rather than betting random amounts and hoping for the best.

But the ironic thing is in the end, system or random betting no system, your odds are EXACTLY THE SAME.

Using your system, yes... you will win your $5 most times. The problem is the ONE TIME you end up hitting a consecutive streak of eight alternating reds and blacks against you, you just blew $1275.

That means your system has to work an average of 255 times to everyone one time it fails. Guess what? The odds say it will NOT work 255 times to every one time it fails.

Once again, it may have worked for you five times, ten times, 20 times, maybe even 100 times, but eventually there will be ONE TIME it fails, and when that happens, you will be HURTING.

[Jgresch]

^ The only way that system would truly work is if the Max bet was Infinite.....

[Wetordry]

http://www.blackjackincolor.com/useless4.htm

[Hondaracer]

Originally Posted by InvisibleSoul

MOST times it will work. The problem is the eventually there will be ONE time that it will NOT work, and you'll lose a crap load of money.


Your "strategy" is absolutely NO DIFFERENT than if you kept betting the same colour over and over.

The chances of hitting eight reds consecutively is EXACTLY THE SAME as hitting red-black-red-black-red-black-red-black.

It doesn't matter that you alternate... you are STILL using the Martingale system, which DOES NOT WORK.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marting...ting_system%29


But the ironic thing is in the end, system or random betting no system, your odds are EXACTLY THE SAME.

Using your system, yes... you will win your $5 most times. The problem is the ONE TIME you end up hitting a consecutive streak of eight alternating reds and blacks against you, you just blew $1275.

That means your system has to work an average of 255 times to everyone one time it fails. Guess what? The odds say it will NOT work 255 times to every one time it fails.

Once again, it may have worked for you five times, ten times, 20 times, maybe even 100 times, but eventually there will be ONE TIME it fails, and when that happens, you will be HURTING.

i've never gotten to the point where i've got over 7 bets and lost

and i've never lost more than $400 at the casino

i'm not some moron who loses $600 then pulls out another $100 to try and break even, i'm devastated at losing $100, but if i'm going to bet i'd rather follow what i outlined than betting random amounts and taking losses

the system i laid out is alot more about the value of the bet rather than the process

*EDIT, not to mention those sims listed above are using 6 decks, old vegas has Casinos that use 2 for BJ.

[tacobell]

Hondaracer - Actually the casinos would love for you to use this strategy, bet big when you're losing and bet small when you're winning. I'm glad you haven't lost with that strategy yet cause when you do, you'll lose all the profit you ever made plus more.

In roulette, i've seen black hit 26 times in a row, in baccarat i've seen banker hit 34 times in a row, yes i shat my pants too.

I'm not trying to make a point out of you, but to tell ppl that this strategy is good is nothing short of horseshit.

[Jgresch]

^ and with systems like that one, it takes a while to win a decent amount of money, because each time you win, you only win the minimum...

[dizzybone]

anyone else have troubles withdrawing their money with cibc?

[Jgresch]

^what kind of troubles? it took 2 full business days for me with TD

[TouringTeg]

Nope. A family member withdrew to CIBC on Friday evening, confirmed in the account Tuesday afternoon.

If you made a mistake entering your banking information they will likely call you that the deposit did not go through (if they have any time). The money will appear in your playnow account again. This happened to a friend.

[InvisibleSoul]

Originally Posted by Hondaracer

i've never gotten to the point where i've got over 7 bets and lost

How many times have you done it?

Like I said, it may have worked for you 100 times already, so you've made $500 from it. But the very next time you try it, it could very well be the one time it fails you for eight straight bets, and suddenly you've just lost $1275. That means even minus your $500 previous profit, you're suddenly $775 in the hole.

and i've never lost more than $400 at the casino

You will at some point if you keep using your "foolproof" system.

i'm not some moron who loses $600 then pulls out another $100 to try and break even, i'm devastated at losing $100, but if i'm going to bet i'd rather follow what i outlined than betting random amounts and taking losses

the system i laid out is alot more about the value of the bet rather than the process

Not sure what you're talking about, but what I can tell you as a fact is that it doesn't matter what kind of system you have for roulette, the odds stay exactly the same. Your system is in no way better than just random betting.

[Hondaracer]

ive probably done this at least 15 times, sure there may have been times where i only tossed in like $100 and got to the $60 bet and backed out, but i played for 30-45 minutes on $40 and cashed out the rest so i didnt feel too bad, i play the casino for the fun of it not to make money..

if your betting the same amount everytime sure the odds are the same, but 95% of the people who just place random bets never stick on one amount.

[InvisibleSoul]

Originally Posted by Hondaracer

ive probably done this at least 15 times, sure there may have been times where i only tossed in like $100 and got to the $60 bet and backed out, but i played for 30-45 minutes on $40 and cashed out the rest so i didnt feel too bad, i play the casino for the fun of it not to make money..

At least you have the proper mentality on casino spending... but again, it has only worked for you 15 times... but like I said, it has to work for you 255 times in a row before one bad streak of luck hits, or else you'll be down big.

if your betting the same amount everytime sure the odds are the same, but 95% of the people who just place random bets never stick on one amount.

Doesn't matter. Still doesn't change anything. You have the same odds of winning or losing the big bets vs small bets.

[Jgresch]

if you play for fun then why do you use a system to tell you how to play?

[hkRicer]

Originally Posted by Hondaracer

i've never gotten to the point where i've got over 7 bets and lost

and i've never lost more than $400 at the casino

i'm not some moron who loses $600 then pulls out another $100 to try and break even, i'm devastated at losing $100, but if i'm going to bet i'd rather follow what i outlined than betting random amounts and taking losses

the system i laid out is alot more about the value of the bet rather than the process

*EDIT, not to mention those sims listed above are using 6 decks, old vegas has Casinos that use 2 for BJ.

dude your method is devastating. You are betting $600+ to win $5 and cut your lost. 600 to win 5 box. I rather bet on soccer with this kind of odd, for ex. Brazil vs North Korea

[Hondaracer]

Originally Posted by Jgresch

if you play for fun then why do you use a system to tell you how to play?

because typically I walk away from the casino with money in my pocket, while friends who bet sporadically do not, it may only be 40-60, but it's still money in my pocket

as i said, ive never been past the 7th chase, so ive never been in over $400

if you wanted to on a $500 limit between 2 people working on a single bet you could get up to 12 turns to chase your losses, so essentially your betting on say, blackjack that in one of 12 hands you will win, imo those odds are better than trying to just bet randomly as varrying amounts and trying to come out ahead, and yes as IS said, eventually you probably will run into that one devastating loss, but the casino is the casino, and you win some you lose some, i know ill never get to those high high bets because i wouldnt want to lose those large sums, but say i make $100 betting the minimum, at that point that $100 is all profit, so then who cares if i bet it all on a single hand and walk away, i didnt lose anything but profit.

also keep in mind, once your up say $20, that allows you 4 minimum bets to play with, so it's not like your just sitting back at a loss, your playing with profit as soon as you win a single hand.

[TheSalesman]

Did I do something wrong?
I played 2 hands of bacarrat and now It says I have $125 cash and $90 token.
And says I can't redeem $90 token for cash?

[Hondaracer]

i had to play with my own $100 two times before the $100 token was applied

then i played 1 more hand at 50/50 then cashed out, i couldnt do it in 2 hands like the RFD thing said, i dunno if it was just a delay or what not

[Hondaracer]

i had to play with my own $100 two times before the $100 token was applied

then i played 1 more hand at 50/50 then cashed out, i couldnt do it in 2 hands like the RFD thing said, i dunno if it was just a delay or what not

[choda]

Originally Posted by Hondaracer

i had to play with my own $100 two times before the $100 token was applied

then i played 1 more hand at 50/50 then cashed out, i couldnt do it in 2 hands like the RFD thing said, i dunno if it was just a delay or what not

It's because of the extra $10 bonus

[TheSalesman]

hmmm anyone else had this problem?

[TheSalesman]

I did it the redflag deals way and then I played 1 $10 hand of blackjack.

I ended up playing 3 hands of baccarat and 1 $10 hand of blackjack and ended up with the token money.
$215! sweet!