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Old 09-07-2010, 03:09 PM   #1
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Anybody know Anthony Espinosa / Concept Motors? Scammed out of $40K

He owes me a Lexus IS-F or my money back. He used to post on this forum too under the name aznrukus.

I've known him for over 5 years and I am friends with his cousin so I trusted he was a legit business person with a dealer license. His girlfriend was also in on it with him. She goes by Sunytha Ly but her real name is Saysamone S Phanouvong.

He was supposed to fly to LA and buy the car already and have it delivered to me in the Seattle area.

I wired him the money a month ago (around 8/4/2010), he's been in LA for over 2 weeks (update: he finally came back after 3 months) and I keep getting the run around.

Anybody else a victim of his shady practices?

Being a "friend" I wanted to give him the benefit of the doubt to make this right. He did sign a contract and gave me an invoice and bill of sale so I have that.

Updates:

3.18.2011 - They are currently homeless and moving from place to place and also staying in hotels. Believed to be residing in the Burnaby area. Can be spotted at Crystal Mall and Metro Town. Several collections agencies and fraud departments are Sunytha and Nakhon including Future Shop, Rogers Communications, TD Bank, and Anthony owes Revenue Canada $5000. This is all according to supposed documents abandoned at the rental house.

Some text messages posted to show Anthony and Sunytha working as a team to lie and gain trust.
http://www.revscene.net/forums/showp...postcount=2520
http://www.revscene.net/forums/showp...postcount=2526

Sunytha's mom's wedding album posted - http://anonym.to/?http://www.pbase.c...ichachywedding

E-mail from Sunytha to show her involvement. Anthony's story was the Lexus was being sold by a private seller who was giving him the run around. Sunytha's story was that the car was at a dealership. I called her on it and she stopped responding.
http://www.revscene.net/forums/showp...postcount=2567

Spyker's story (I cannot confirm nor deny the authenticity but was asked to put it here) - http://www.revscene.net/forums/showp...postcount=2543

3.1.2011 - Spotted at Crystal Mall http://www.revscene.net/forums/showp...postcount=2382



1.14.2011 -

The accused:

Anthony Espinosa (aka Anthony Wong) and Saysamone S Phanouvong (aka Sunytha Phanouvong aka Sunytha Ly)
Anthony's cell - (778) 938-0885, aznrukus@hotmail.com, aznrukus@gmail.com
Home - (604) 593-2580
Sunytha's cell - (778) 788-7767, ms.sunythaly@gmail.com, sunytha1214@hotmail.com

Home Address:
12355 81 Ave
Surrey, BC V3W 0X7, Canada

12.13.2010 - vcgirl found Sunytha on thedirty.com http://thedirty.com/2010/12/typical-...fake-wanna-be/
12.17.2010 - Dirty Army finds Anthony thedirty.com http://thedirty.com/2010/12/surreys-dirty-noodles/

His parents are Phil and Zenaida Espinosa. Her mother's name is Mini Polson (unless that is also fake). If anybody knows them please ask them to talk some sense into this guy. His cousin seemed like he wanted to help but doesn't seem like he wants to get involved much anymore. Wouldn't give up his aunt's name (Anthony's mom) so I got it anyway.


7-25-2010 - Anthony sends out about 10 emails with details of fake Lexus IS-F's.




8-3-2010 - Anthony sent carfax report. I thought it was weird the last entry was 2008 with 24 miles. He said the owner never drove it and just stored it. http://www.carfax.com/cfm/FSBO.cfm?r...272B0A8AE4D891


8-5-2010 - Wire transfer clear. Anthony was very responsive to texts until I wired the money. Now he would take several hours to respond or he would have Sunytha talk for him. He claimed he was busy wrapping up things at the shop before the trip and customers kept coming in.


8-19-2010 - Anthony finally flies to LA to supposedly pay for the car with my money and have it shipped.




9-1-2010 - My friend went to the address he listed as his shop and discovered it was a different business, not Concept Motors. 1850 Franklin, Vancouver


9-2-2010 - I discover the VIN he gave me is for a car at auction that isn't even the same color as the car I agreed to buy through him. I freak out but think OK he's giving me the run around waiting for this auction to end and maybe he's planning to paint the car and fix the bumper damage. He claims that isn't the same car and the auction ends and still no car. http://www.govdeals.com/index.cfm?fa...13&acctID=2715

9-5-2010 - Anthony claims the deal with the seller is almost finalized and he has papers to prove it and he will send me pictures of the papers. He ends up sending me pictures of a car that I discovered were actually pictures for a car on Autotrader being sold in Utah. I tell him I've had enough and I'm calling the cops and he claims he accidently sent me the wrong pictures and will send the correct ones ASAP.




9-9-2010 - He said he would send me the correct pictures ASAP but to him that means 4 days. This car is actually a Canadian spec car and one of the forum members found it on Autotrader.ca being sold in Alberta.

His e-mail with photos he stole from the Autotrader ad


The Autotrader ad



9-15-2010 - His third and final attempt to try to make me believe he purchased a car. Thanks to some forum members the exact location one of these pictures was taken was located in the San Francisco bay area using Google Street View. The EXIF data on the photos also says they were taken in May and June of 2009.




9-15-2010 - Another victim reveals himself on Facebook after being cammed 6 months prior.




10-12-2010 - Revhard10000 posts a picture of their house and address. http://www.revscene.net/forums/showp...&postcount=599



12355 81 Ave
Surrey, BC

10-25-2010 - I tracked scammers down to a Motel 6 outside of LA. Had ABC Legal stake them out for a couple days and then Anthony was served when he opened the door to his hotel room. Affidavit from a very reputal process serving and investigation firm. I sent them photos of the 2 in advance so they would be sure to get the correct people. The front desk verified that somebody under that name was registered there.






11-2-2010 AM - Anthony sends one last message on Facebook then deleted his account. His girlfriend deleted all of her accounts too. http://www.revscene.net/forums/showp...&postcount=739


11-2-2010 PM - Anthony finally returned home to Canada after being in LA since August 19th and contacted his landlord who has been trying to collect on rent. His landlord said he wanted all o them out of the house because of they were late on rent, utilities, and he heard about the scams they have been pulling. Anthony told his landlord that he took care of my situation and it was all a misunderstanding. The next day the landlord asked for more details and Anthony told him that he shipped the car and he didn't know why I was being such a dick about it when he's doing me a favor. A couple days later the landlord went to collect rent and told him he should get me my car and it's not worth going to jail for and Anthony told him he paid somebody for the car and got scammed so he did his part.


11-2-2010 PM - Anthony texts the Hawaiian person he scammed out of $7,000 and still claiming he shipped his crate. http://www.revscene.net/forums/showp...&postcount=752


12-17-2010 - busymommy posts url to find previous civil suits against Anthony. https://eservice.ag.gov.bc.ca/cso/es...esearchHome.do
Revhard10000 posts information from civil cases:

Benson Lai - $10,000
Mark Esgasane - $19,280



12-31-2010 - Tranny spotted frauding retails stores http://www.revscene.net/forums/showp...postcount=1463

The accused:

Anthony Espinosa (aka Anthony Wong) and Saysamone S Phanouvong (aka Sunytha Phanouvong aka Sunytha Ly)
Anthony's cell - (778) 938-0885, aznrukus@hotmail.com, aznrukus@gmail.com
Home - (604) 593-2580
Sunytha's cell - (778) 788-7767, ms.sunythaly@gmail.com, sunytha1214@hotmail.com








Her brother Nakhon Phanouvong (aks Nakhon Romeo, Laos Romeo) 778-838-8280. Claims he works for the fictitious company Concept Motors and can get cars for people. Do not get scammed by him either.

Shortest one on the right. Guy on the far left is not involved and was possibly scammed too. Guy in the middle is also shady but not involved in this and has since cut ties with them.
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Old 09-07-2010, 03:16 PM   #3
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Track this mother fucker down and sue this monkey.
Oh he's not running. I text back and forth with him daily. He's in LA still on his business trip and supposedly paid the seller a couple days ago and is waiting for the check to clear. Of course he can't provide proof. His proof was 4 pictures of the car that he claimed he took last week but they are of a car in Utah on autotrader, lol. He claims he sent me the wrong ones on accident and would send me the correct ones.
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so why are you trippin out so much player?
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so why are you trippin out so much player?
Because he has had my money for over a month and he can't provide any proof that he is getting a car for me. His "proof" was pictures he claimed were the car but were not.
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Why did you give him the full amount? You should have just given a deposit.
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you paid 40k.... to have an ISF bought in LA, AND delivered to Seattle area for you? we're talking about a used ISF right?

why did you have to go through him?
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I tried. He isn't a "real" dealer where he has the funds to go get cars for people and hope to be paid back. He has a business license and said he uses it to help friends and family get better deals on cars. I didn't wire him the money right away. I took a week to research him and didn't see anything bad. Now I know I should have used some better search words

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you paid 40k.... to have an ISF bought in LA, AND delivered to Seattle area for you? we're talking about a used ISF right?

why did you have to go through him?
Yes that's correct. He said he would pay for shipping and give me some parts as a sponsorship deal so I could represent his shop. I have little kids and I'm busy at work so I can't leave work and fly off to buy a car and drive it back like I used to. I trusted him to take care of me.
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We know that buying a vehicle can be a very stressful thing, especially so when you cannot inspect the vehicle for yourself. This is exactly why we believe it is important to be honest and build excellent customer relationships.
There are many reasons that determine what importer you choose. We want to be the one you choose because of our great customer service, quality import products, followed by our low prices.
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We want you to enjoy your new JDM RHD imported vehicle.
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His so called shop is in a sketchy East Van area too...

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Exhaust install — $45 and up
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good luck with getting the car or your money back. if you still don't see him or the car within the next 2 weeks its probably time to hire a lawyer.
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You gave him full amount?? good luck getting the $$ back
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google map 1850 Frankin Street, his shop address.....nothing. u got scammed
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it's probably too good to be true.


so many scammers out there..

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Yeah. It might be a long process but I won't end up empty handed. I don't want to go into it on here.

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google map 1850 Frankin Street, his shop address.....nothing. u got scammed
It is in a back alley. Somebody checked it out for me. Whether he still does business there is another question.

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^With that particular location that you've posted in the pic, the name of the shop isn't "Concept Motors"...at least, that's not what they put up.
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^With that particular location that you've posted in the pic, the name of the shop isn't "Concept Motors"...at least, that's not what they put up.
yeah i followed up on that with somebody who has done work with him and that shop may belong to his dad and uncle.
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Damn, I hate scammers. Good luck to you.
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damn mike! i cant believe u still got rid of the supra!

i think you should come up here and pay him a little visit when he shows up!
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damn mike! i cant believe u still got rid of the supra!

i think you should come up here and pay him a little visit when he shows up!
Yeah I sold the Supra to free up funds to buy this and now it's like I gave away the Supra
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