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Wanna bet now adays people dont do shit other then make videos and upload them to youtube and facebook.
If something like this were to happen again thats all we'd see done is passengers filming it and uploading it. People haven't gotten any tougher in ten years.
Knives for fucksakes! Knives brought down the WTC and killed thousands!
Speak for yourself, not everyone's a pushover. I'd fight a hijacker to the death if I knew he was going to kill everyone on board anyway. I'm not the only person who would have that mentality in that situation.
The thing about 9/11 is that using aircraft as missiles had not been done before, at least not in the public eye. The people on board had no idea what was going to happen to them, they just assumed if they sat still the hijackers wouldn't detonate the bomb they didn't actually have. If I recall correctly they used box cutter knives, am I right? A box cutter would snap right off if you tried to stab someone with it, and you might get one or two slashes at someone before they take you down. A pen is more dangerous than a box cutter, cause I can jam that through your windpipe or in the arteries on the side of your neck. The sad reality is all the people on those planes had to do was get a couple able-bodied men to overwhelm the limited number of hijackers. People realize that now, so that combined with the increased security measures both in airports and within the aircraft themselves a situation like this would almost certainly never happen again.
Speak for yourself, not everyone's a pushover. I'd fight a hijacker to the death if I knew he was going to kill everyone on board anyway. I'm not the only person who would have that mentality in that situation.
The thing about 9/11 is that using aircraft as missiles had not been done before, at least not in the public eye. The people on board had no idea what was going to happen to them, they just assumed if they sat still the hijackers wouldn't detonate the bomb they didn't actually have. If I recall correctly they used box cutter knives, am I right? A box cutter would snap right off if you tried to stab someone with it, and you might get one or two slashes at someone before they take you down. A pen is more dangerous than a box cutter, cause I can jam that through your windpipe or in the arteries on the side of your neck. The sad reality is all the people on those planes had to do was get a couple able-bodied men to overwhelm the limited number of hijackers. People realize that now, so that combined with the increased security measures both in airports and within the aircraft themselves a situation like this would almost certainly never happen again.
I was in gr.4 at the time and I have no idea wtf was going on.. was too busy admiring my 3 day old newborn sister at the time. Then I saw the 2nd plane crash into the 2nd tower, people jumping off the buildings, etc. Didn't learn what happened until like 2-3 days later.
First of all I'm not Dylan Avery, his comments are so ignorant he deserves to get ridiculed and destroyed like that. Dylan looks like a little pimpsqueak computer nerd who couldn't take down a 12 year old let alone a grown man. It's also easy to talk shit when you can see the full scope of the situation because it's already happened and you weren't there. I'm not discrediting any possible actions that were taken by the passengers of Flight 93, if that's what really happened. Dylan's a classless idiot making statement's like that.
I'm under the impression they used knives like these, thin replaceable blade box cutters:
Yes they can kill but odds are the blade will snap off as it's designed to do and leave the attacker holding a dull piece of plastic until he can zip the blade out some more. A 4" foldable blade like shown in the video is a different story, but who knows what they were actually using. Either way, I wouldn't be sitting in my seat waiting to die. I'd arm myself as best I could with as many other people as I could rally and win or lose make the attempt.
Anyways, way off topic. RIP to the victims of 9/11.
When used in the right way those blades can to a lot of damage and not snap off. They don't need to stab, they just need to slice an artery. I received 7 stitches from a boxcutter accident at work - the blade was still in one piece.
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To the comments with regards to "I would try to save myself/others by fighting the hijackers." You DO realize the people had ZERO idea or speculation that the plane was actually going to be flown into a building right? Sure in hindsight statements like that are "easy" to throw out since we know what the ultimate fate of the plane ended up being.
At the time, most people including ourselves would be sitting in their seat, praying that they would somehow be safe at the end of it all. Fighting would only end their lives short. Versus staying seated and hoping for some miraculous save.
Who in their right mind would think the jackers were actually going to blow the thing up/smash it into a building killing themselves as well...
Wanna bet now adays people dont do shit other then make videos and upload them to youtube and facebook.
If something like this were to happen again thats all we'd see done is passengers filming it and uploading it. People haven't gotten any tougher in ten years.
Knives for fucksakes! Knives brought down the WTC and killed thousands!
I think now a days, everyone knows about the 9/11 incident, and a lot more people are paranoid about hijackers.
I think people would gather up and overthrow the hijackers. I doubt anything like this (as in a plane successfully crashing into a building)
would ever happen again, unless there is a corrupted team of pilots or something like that.
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That reminded me of how close Seth MacFarlane came to being a victim on 9/11.
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On the morning of September 11, 2001, MacFarlane was scheduled to return to Los Angeles on American Airlines Flight 11 from Boston, Massachusetts. Suffering from a hangover from the previous night's celebrations, and with an incorrect departure time (8:15 a.m. instead of 7:45 a.m.) from his travel agent, he arrived at Logan International Airport about ten minutes too late to board the flight as the gates had been closed. Fifteen minutes after departure, American Airlines Flight 11 was hijacked, and at 8:46 a.m. was flown into the North Tower of the World Trade Center, obliterating the airplane, and killing everyone on board.
this guy tried to stop the hijackers on American Airlines Flight 11. That was the first plane into the WTC IIRC. He (obviously) wasn't successful. Got stabbed in the neck for his efforts.
Has it ever been said what kind of box cutters were used? There is a big difference between a snap away blade cutter and the folding kind that use razor blades as well. You could stab with those, slash with them and they probably aren't breaking.
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wow..... today at work the "10 years later" special came on, I didn't really have much interest in watching but after the first 15 minutes I couldn't stop. Must have been like 2 hours long but well worth it. Every once in a while other employees would come by and couldn't stop watching either until a commercial came on and they snapped out of it.
i rmb my buddy called me at 7am and told me the WTC was burning...i told him..fuck off, impossible. Wanting to go back to sleep after, but i couldnt as I knew the guy wouldnt play jokes by calling my house phone at 7am...
woke up..parents watching the TV in shock
classes became "optional" as more ppl were crowded in the lunch area/rotunda watching the news than attend class..staff included
Anyone here lived on the east coast when this happened? Most on this coast were probably asleep. I remember waking up and turning on the news to see the first tower was hit and thinking it was just an accident, then live coverage of the 2nd tower being hit and suddenly realizing this was an attack. I did nothing but watch news coverage that entire day, and most of the next month.
to the people who said the people on the planes that hit the towers probably had no idea that they were going to crash into the building, recently I watched a new documentry that was like 2 hours long, the second hour was almost solely dedicated to flight 11, the second plane that hit the towers
The guy who was flying the hijacked plane was not that great of a pilot, and some of the reenacments that were shown on this documentry were astounding
bottom line imo, on that flight 11 regardless of what you thought they were going to do with the plane, and as one of the analysts even said, the way that plane was flown he asumed that majority of the passengers would have realized pretty quickly they were not going to be just landing at an airport again, they were making HUGEEEE vertical nose dives, banks, etc. there was even a retired top gun pilot on that flight, the problem was probably getting INTO the cockpit once they assumed the flying
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Jeez... good on Jon and yes it’s sad that celebrities need to speak before change happens but I applaud those who do. Kim Kardashian has got a bunch of people out prison recently ffs.
Blocks were shut down and hundreds of firefighters and police lined the streets in respect. It made me think at the time, I sure hope these first responders and their families are taken care of considering the magnitude 9/11.
Guess not.
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Yuck i never thought of that,i remember everyone running for cover with that huge cloud of white ash from the buildings being demolished on the ground,people were coming into stores to be protected.
Workers worked without proper respirators. They wore painters' masks or no covering. Specialists claim that the only effective protection against toxins such as airborne asbestos, is a special respirator. New York Committee for Occupational Safety and Health industrial hygienist David Newman said, "I was down there watching people working without respirators." He continued, "Others took off their respirators to eat. It was a surreal, ridiculous, unacceptable situation."
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That was the first plane into the WTC IIRC. He (obviously) wasn't successful. Got stabbed in the neck for his efforts.
