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11-03-2010, 02:18 PM
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taylor192 you remind me of Peter Schiff, the man was mocked like there was no tomorrow because his opinion was unpopular, but in the end we all know how that played out. I wouldn't get too worked up if I were you.
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11-03-2010, 03:03 PM
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Originally Posted by m!chael  taylor192 you remind me of Peter Schiff, the man was mocked like there was no tomorrow because his opinion was unpopular, but in the end we all know how that played out. I wouldn't get too worked up if I were you. | LOL thanks, that is entirely too funny. Do you read Mish's Global Economic blog? Schiff was right... yet he might be very wrong about other predictions. 
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11-08-2010, 12:27 PM
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| Quote: Province will review new drinking/driving crackdown
VANCOUVER/CKNW AM 980
Charmaine de Silva | Email news tips to charmaine.desilva@corusent.com
11/8/2010
BC's Minister of Public Safety and Solicitor General says his government will be taking a look at how new impaired driving laws have been rolled out.
This after MLA John Les spoke out this morning, saying his government should reconsider the tougher drinking/driving laws.
Even with plans to review the controversial impaired driving penalties,Rich Coleman says that doesn't necesssarily mean the legislation will be scrapped.
He says government wants to look at how this is working; there won't automatically be changes made.
He says it may be a public education issue as much as anything.
Coleman says public education isn't just for the public,its for police officers as well.
Coleman says he's concerned with the high percentage of impounded vehicles.
He says the decision to impound vehicles is discretionary...and it doesn't need to happen every time.
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11-08-2010, 02:04 PM
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#154 | | Willing to sell body for a few minutes on RS
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He says the decision to impound vehicles is discretionary...and it doesn't need to happen every time.
| That's not how the legislation reads Mr. Coleman: Quote: From the office of the superintendent of motor vehicles website
New Penalties (as of September 20, 2010)
If you are caught excessively speeding, you will automatically have your car impounded for seven days for a first offence, 30-days for a second offence, and 60 days for any subsequent offences within two years. You’ll also pay to get your car out. Towing and seven days of storage will cost you at least $210, a 30 day impoundment will cost around $700, while a 60-day impoundment will cost over $1200.
| You don't even know your own fucking legislation
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11-08-2010, 02:08 PM
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I just checked the ICBC website, and it says they "can" impound you.
When the law was implemented, it was stated that impounding was automatic, just like your quote Great68.
Now they're changing their own words for some reason, and that makes me upset.
from the ICBC site. Quote: |
Impaired drivers in the .05–.08 warn range are prohibited from driving for three, seven or 30 days. The prohibition escalates depending on whether it is the first, second or third time a driver is caught within a five-year period.
| on a different page they say this. Quote: |
Police in B.C. can now issue an immediate roadside prohibition to an impaired driver with a blood-alcohol content (BAC) of .05 or higher. (The BAC is based on a breath sample into a roadside screening device.)
| It's so poorly written that I'm not surprised at the confusion.
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11-08-2010, 02:13 PM
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#156 | | Willing to sell body for a few minutes on RS
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An RCMP member on our own forum posted that impoundment is mandatory, not discretionary: Quote:
Originally Posted by zulutango "the peace officer or another peace officer must
(g) cause the motor vehicle to be taken to and impounded at a place directed by the peace officer,
No discretion there if an excessive charge is laid...except for safety considerations given under the Act.
(09-06-2010 New excessive speeding law thread) | I guess what IS discretionary is the excessive speeding charge in the first place...
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11-08-2010, 02:25 PM
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So he's not fooling when he says this..... Quote:
He says it may be a public education issue as much as anything.
Coleman says public education isn't just for the public,its for police officers as well.
| Now we have over a thousand vehicles impounded, who knows how many lives ruined, social status harmed, etc, etc, etc.
And what does this prick say? Quote: |
Coleman says he's concerned with the high percentage of impounded vehicles.
| die in a fire, Mr. Coleman.
And take Van Dongen with you.
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11-08-2010, 02:42 PM
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#158 | | Willing to sell body for a few minutes on RS
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I think they just implemented these penalties for the sensationalist factor without really thinking through their full impact.
Mike De Jong:
"Hey I know how to shake my boob image!
I'll pass the TOUGHEST penalties for speeding and impaired driving Canada has seen! That'll make headlines!
Hey Rich, imagine how big people will think my cock is!"
One month later
"Fuck! I gotta pick up Gordo's car from the impound lot"
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11-08-2010, 03:14 PM
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Instead of investing in public education, perhaps they could channel those funds to keeping the skytrain open later or other more useful transit options.
But that would make too much fucking sense.
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11-08-2010, 03:40 PM
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... or use that money to install some turnstiles at the skytrain stations.
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11-08-2010, 06:16 PM
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It is kind of humorous that our PM stepped down shortly before this stuff was brought forward by the Liberals.
Another article... Quote:
Coleman considers watering down new drunk-driving rules
The Canadian Press
Updated: Mon. Nov. 8 2010 6:38 PM ET
Solicitor General Rich Coleman says he's pondering whether to water down British Columbia's tough new drinking and driving rules.
The new rules have only been in place since September, but B.C. bars and restaurants say business has dried up since the law was changed, he said Monday.
Police have powers to hand out hefty fines or impound cars if drivers are pulled over with a blood alcohol limit above .05, but officers have discretion at that alcohol level which means not every case means guaranteed punishment, Coleman said
He said he hasn't made up his mind about changing the law, but is planning a provincewide blitz this holiday season to let British Columbians know it's still OK to have a drink out on the town.
"Sometimes you get the urban myth that gets momentum and people start talking about that you can't even have one drink because you'll fail on the instrument," said Coleman. "That just goes through the public like wild fire."
He said he's already met with the Insurance Corp. of B.C., municipal police and the RCMP to discuss ways of letting people know more about the new law.
"We will go back and do better education and we'll look at this thing, and see going into the spring (legislative session) if there's certain things we may have to do to mitigate some of the public's concerns, but at the same time try and get the same results so we're protecting lives on the streets."
The new drinking and driving rules were hailed as the toughest in Canada when they were introduced last April.
Police are able to issue immediate 90-day driving bans, impound vehicles and levy fines that could cost drivers $3,750 before their matters ever come to criminal court.
The government said the new rules were aimed at cutting impaired driving deaths in British Columbia by 35 per cent by the end of 2013. An average of 130 British Columbians die every year in impaired-driving incidents.
Liberal John Les said the new rules have spread fear among British Columbians and the government needs to calm people.
"There have been a few unfortunate statements made out there that if you go out for an evening and have a glass of wine you shouldn't be driving," he said. "That's kind of a bit of an over-the-top statement."
Coleman made the comments as a Surrey court heard victim impact statements in the drunk driving death of Alexa Middelaer, the four-year-old girl the new law is named after.
| I agree with some of his points. I mean just read this thread; almost half of the posters were saying the same things. I can't have 1 or 2 drinks anymore.
Also if you read the original news release from the government here http://www2.news.gov.bc.ca/news_rele...026-000472.htm in April; you will see the vehicle impoundment is only a possibility for the .05-.08 range. Not mandatory which perhaps people were led to believe by some careless members of our press.
On the other hand, the government going on an ''all out blitz'' encouraging British Columbians' it's still ok to drink and drive this holiday season...yeah...sounds like a well formulated and responsible plan.
Why they didn't introduce the whole plan more responsibly in the first place is way beyond me.
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11-08-2010, 07:40 PM
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Originally Posted by originalhypa I just checked the ICBC website, and it says they "can" impound you.
When the law was implemented, it was stated that impounding was automatic, just like your quote Great68. | There should be no discretion for drinking drivers since the risk to the driving public has not changed if the driver was allowed to continue on his way. No cop would want to be put in a position where he had to make a call between letting a driver continue driving and possibly injure someone in an accident or impounding a vehicle as guidelines recommend. The law has to be written with no confusion and clear limits.
Speeding is different since the "act" of speeding would have occurred in the past. The officer should have the judgement to let the driver go, if he feels that the driver is not a significant risk to himself or the driving public.
I'm not sure why these dummies coming up with this legislation fail to understand simple logic.
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11-08-2010, 08:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Marco911 There should be no discretion for drinking drivers since the risk to the driving public has not changed if the driver was allowed to continue on his way. No cop would want to be put in a position where he had to make a call between letting a driver continue driving and possibly injure someone in an accident or impounding a vehicle as guidelines recommend. The law has to be written with no confusion and clear limits.
Speeding is different since the "act" of speeding would have occurred in the past. The officer should have the judgement to let the driver go, if he feels that the driver is not a significant risk to himself or the driving public.
I'm not sure why these dummies coming up with this legislation fail to understand simple logic. | You're right. I wouldn't care if they left the 0.05 penalties where they are now, and just changed the excessive speed impound.
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11-08-2010, 10:22 PM
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#164 | | NOOB, Not Quite a Regular!
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so are they ever gonna consider having the skytrain run later?
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11-08-2010, 11:31 PM
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TOKYO doesn't even have their trains running past 1 why would this city need it past 1. Just put some DAMN capsule hotels downtown.
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11-09-2010, 08:14 AM
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#166 | | they call me the snowman
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Originally Posted by Marco911 There should be no discretion for drinking drivers since the risk to the driving public has not changed if the driver was allowed to continue on his way. No cop would want to be put in a position where he had to make a call between letting a driver continue driving and possibly injure someone in an accident or impounding a vehicle as guidelines recommend. The law has to be written with no confusion and clear limits. | Well said.
This came up a few years ago with the street racing laws. They were written as such that virtually anyone driving to a destination could be considered a "street racer".
I need to snap a picture of the cop who sits at the intersection of 192 and Golden Ears way, picking people off as they exit the bridge. It goes down to a 60 zone after a long downhill off the bridge. Why it's only 60, I don't know. All I do know is that this guy tows up to a dozen cars a day. It makes me sick...
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11-09-2010, 10:17 AM
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when are we going to see some young smart intelligent young blood enter politics?
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11-09-2010, 08:06 PM
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Originally Posted by MajinHurricane when are we going to see some young smart intelligent young blood enter politics? | Why should bright young people enter politics when they would easily be rewarded 2-3 times the amount in the private sector? And when they could make tough decisions without being in the spotlight?
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I'd say it's more like people these days know what kind of a spotlight they'll be under if they go into politics.
It doesn't even take breaking the law to create a scandal. All it takes is a hint of impropriety or a single bad facebook picture to completely and totally fuck you out of politics.
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Originally Posted by Tapioca Why should bright young people enter politics when they would easily be rewarded 2-3 times the amount in the private sector? And when they could make tough decisions without being in the spotlight? | maybe if your life didn't revolve around money and more around the betterment of citizens of BC.
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11-14-2010, 11:31 PM
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i wish they reviewed this shit sooner. just lost my licence for 3 days after having 3 beers with dinner tonight.
FUCKING BULLSHIT
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11-15-2010, 02:51 AM
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Originally Posted by MajinHurricane maybe if your life didn't revolve around money and more around the betterment of citizens of BC. | And then you end up with today's politicians.
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Originally Posted by asahai69 i wish they reviewed this shit sooner. just lost my licence for 3 days after having 3 beers with dinner tonight.
FUCKING BULLSHIT | did they pull you over or was it a roadblock?
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11-15-2010, 10:42 AM
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^ pulled me over
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11-15-2010, 11:21 AM
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Originally Posted by asahai69 ^ pulled me over | No disrespect, but unless you give a cop a reason to pull you over, a cop won't pull you over.
Were you speeding? Were you not staying in your lane?
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