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boss604 11-01-2010 06:49 PM

lol engineering FAIL

The_AK 11-01-2010 06:50 PM

they should build a roof over the roof so in case it rains they're able to close it

:troll:

seakrait 11-01-2010 06:56 PM

that damn gordon campbell i tells ya. :(

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Originally Posted by Great68 (Post 7168621)
So does that factor in the number of event days that will no longer happen because the facility no longer has a fully closed roof?

what confuses me is that their logic implies that there are events that can only be held in an open stadium that can't be held in a totally covered stadium. :rolleyes: someone please educate me.

MDMA 11-01-2010 08:10 PM

Someone post double facepalm :facepalm:
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StylinRed 11-01-2010 08:16 PM

you would think this is something they could remedy before everything gets put in place

shouldnt someone be held accountable -_-

Nintensity 11-01-2010 08:21 PM

HAHA This reminds me like the problem that San Francisco was facing a while back, where people could easily bypass the ticket gates with just a simple wave of the hand.

oh well, the spectators can be covered in the rain, lets just make the players wet just because they're used to practicing in the rain...... psh.

vafanculo 11-01-2010 08:48 PM

Hope it doesn't self destruct during snowy season
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whitev70r 11-01-2010 08:57 PM

Epic ... failure.
Add BC Stadium Roof to: Fastcat, Olympic Village, Vancouver Convention Center.

c_loke 11-01-2010 08:57 PM

whoever sold them the roof musta' been a damn good salesman.

FN-2199 11-01-2010 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by c_loke (Post 7168966)
whoever sold them the roof musta' been a damn good salesman.


:troll:

Mancini 11-01-2010 09:08 PM

"Stadium officials say they chose to install a retractable roof because of the original design of the building, saying its design would not support a metal retractable roof..."

What?

dachinesedude 11-01-2010 09:14 PM

Either make one that closes or have no roof at all, wat the fuck are we gonna do with a "close only under perfect circumstances" roof

Lomac 11-01-2010 09:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mancini (Post 7168984)
"Stadium officials say they chose to install a retractable roof because of the original design of the building, saying its design would not support a metal retractable roof..."

What?

Basic engineering. The side of the stadium wasn't built with the intention of having a giant steel roof placed on top. It would require major renovations for it to work, otherwise the structure would simply collapse under the weight.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Structural_load

MelonBoy 11-01-2010 10:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by whitev70r (Post 7168965)
Epic ... failure.
Add BC Stadium Roof to: Fastcat, Olympic Village, Vancouver Convention Center.

Whats wrong with the Vancouver Convention Center?...

seakrait 11-01-2010 11:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dachinesedude (Post 7168995)
Either make one that closes or have no roof at all, wat the fuck are we gonna do with a "close only under perfect circumstances" roof

or make one that's permanently closed. no issues. there we go.

and to be clear, the roof DOES close. just not when they have it open and THEN it starts to rain. or if the wind picks up suddenly.

ie: they have to be watching the weather closely all the time when the roof is open and close it in advance of any rain/wind.

ilvtofu 11-01-2010 11:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The_AK (Post 7168727)
they should build a roof over the roof so in case it rains they're able to close it

:troll:

LOL that's what I was thinking, either that or a Massive tarp

impulseX 11-02-2010 12:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rich Sandor (Post 7168564)
I liked the old roof better.

Ya, the 'pineapple bun'.

AVS_Racing 11-02-2010 12:10 AM

LOL y am i not surprised about this

goo3 11-02-2010 12:24 AM

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Stadium staff will monitor weather reports to determine whether to close or open the roof, added Crosley. The roof can be opened or closed in 20 minutes multiple times through a day.

The BC Place general manager said the retractable roof's fabric has folds that would collect water if it was opened or closed in the rain.

"You can't have those folds collect water," Crosley said, adding that the weight of the water could cause a tear in the fabric, called Tenara.

The stadium's revamp, the largest retrofit of its kind in the world, is scheduled to be completed next September, in plenty of time for the 2011 Grey Cup.

The inability to adjust the roof in the rain has never been a secret, Crosley said. The architects and engineers involved in the stadium revamp always knew the roof couldn't be opened or closed in the rain.

But questions from the media about the roof's operation during a rainstorm "never came up before," he added.

The roof also cannot be opened or closed in winds of 60 kilometres an hour or more.

The roof's limitations in wet weather are a result of the building's structure, which forced architects to choose a fabric rather than metal retractable roof.

The stadium "wasn't set up to handle the very significant weight of a metal retractable roof of the type you see in other stadiums," Crosley said.
Read more: http://www.vancouversun.com/sports/P...#ixzz146tfhdW1

noots 11-02-2010 01:05 AM

It seems like the media is making it out to be a lot worst than it really is. You would think that they would check the weather forecasts and close/open the roof accordingly. It's not like they would leave the roof open when it's expected to rain later.

It would be a problem when there's some sudden, freak rain storm and the roof is open. Also IIRC, the roof would only be open during MLS or CFL games and the fans will be covered regardless.

hotjoint 11-02-2010 07:48 AM

wow such fail

Jsunu 11-02-2010 08:02 AM

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Originally Posted by goo3 (Post 7169186)

Please for the love of god people read this. It is not so much engineering fail as it was as a result of building limitations since they had to construct on an existing structure, hence the cloth roof. Constructing a metal roof would've required building a entirely new stadium and hence more $$$$$. They just had to make the most cost effective decision and built on an existing structure.


Basically if a freak rainstorm just happens to down pour, it will just make the players wet. They just have to make sure and look at the weather conditions before they retract or open the roof. It really is a non-issue.


Quote:

This scenario, albeit an improbable one, emerged Monday with confirmation from BC Place general manager Howard Crosley that the stadium's new $458-million retractable roof will not be able to open or close in the rain.

"If a rainstorm catches us by surprise," Crosley said, the football Lions and the soccer Whitecaps will get wet.


Expresso 11-02-2010 08:04 AM

Why is this a big deal? The cost to do a roof everyone wants will probably double the price of construction. So it can only stay open during the summer, at least it can open. And if it rains the only people that get wet are the players, the seats always remain covered. I don't see the big deal, chances are it will only stay open during the summer. BC Place desperately needed a reno, I'm not going to complain.

I was disappointed at first, but got over it pretty quick.

InvisibleSoul 11-02-2010 08:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mancini (Post 7168984)
"Stadium officials say they chose to install a retractable roof because of the original design of the building, saying its design would not support a metal retractable roof..."

What?

What's the problem? The retractable roof isn't metal.

It isn't that big of a deal... they just have to close it well in advance if the weather report calls for heavy rain for sports events, or if the weather report calls for any rain for other events like the auto show...

Tapioca 11-02-2010 08:51 AM

The media is making a big deal about it because they're trying to politicize the project.

But, I do feel sorry for the people who live in buildings near the stadium. Their views of the southwest have been severely reduced as a result of the support beams.


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